Agreed, given the strength of this draft class.

It's an old joke, he wasn't actually taking vacations when free agency started.

I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but players don’t sign early these days.

I am torn. The charger fans.seem good with this..
He always injured and lots.of dpi.

Though they say those probably go away now. Lol.

But I am on board being done with omenihu.

We also need the line coach gone with him..on both sides.

Our philosophy needs to change.

Basing your opinions off of the opinions of random opposing fans on the internet is silly.

Fulton was WAY better than Nazareth Johnson and Conner last year. That's all that matters. He's our CB3, and a damn good one.

McDuffie, Watson, Fulton.


We good.

Now our secondary issue is Bryan Cook being a starter.

Not sure how a solid coverage safety and good tackler is an issue but to each their own.

Reid was the one getting torched non-stop last year, not Cook.

And his agent doesn’t know this?

You guys are silly. It’s gong to cost what it’s going to cost.

Matty Lane keeps pushing the narrative that cook shouldn’t start. He lost some of his speed and range after the injury but he may well still be working through that. He could be upgraded but likely not for cheaper. He’s a good player and the kind of player that is the foundation on championship teams.

I actually don't mind Conner at FS. But, being in the Slot is a very bad spot for him and our D

Cook was always late to the ball.....for a coverage safety that's not good!

Never heard of him.

2021:
Suffered a hamstring injury in Week 5, resulting in a stint on injured reserve.
2023:
Placed on injured reserve in December due to a nagging hamstring injury.
2024:
Missed two games with a hamstring injury.
Played sparingly in multiple games while managing the hamstring injury.
Had a knee injury in Week 4.
Had another knee injury in Week 6.
Other Injuries:
Suffered a groin injury in 2022.
Missed four straight games due to a groin injury.
Missed time with a bad hamstring in 2022.
Had a hamstring strain in Week 13 of 2023.
Had a hamstring strain in Week 2 of 2023.

Our new CB....reminds me of that receiver Mathews who was never healthy.

Mmm,.gotta say I thought Cook was pretty poor, but maybe time past that injury helps. Definitely the safety room is the secondary weakness now.

As long as we go buck wild on the DL in the draft I think we're good

My only concern is general corner volatility.

Fulton, like most corners, has been up and down most of his career. He had what looked like a breakout that 2nd year in TN (like many others, I liked him in the draft. I actually liked him a year earlier when he surprised me by going back to college).

The truly consistent corners tend to show steady ascension whereas Fulton's career has been a little more common - some good years, some not so good, strong contract year.

Might be the start of a long period of consistency but for many it's just the continuation of the same trend a lot of CBs show of season over season inconsistency.

Fine gamble but not what I'd call a sure thing.

Maybe he's just a guy that responds well to good coaching. He had that in his best year in TN and again in SD. He'll get that here as well.

Reason for optimism but I wouldn't bet the mortgage either.

Side note - Watson is also extension eligible. This would seem to set the floor for him, no?

If he displaces Johnson and plays a solid slot role--Veatch has struck again.

I’d take him back on this type deal 10/10 times.

I think this is a fair assessment. I also feel like I'm probably more risk tolerant this year. Just feels like we need to take a few chances. I'll roll the dice with Fulton before resigning a guy like Omenihu at DE.

He's more of a boundary CB.

Probably signals more McDuffie in the slot

Is there a position you feel better about a gamble though than CB for the Chiefs?

Seems like almost all our picks hit or at least approach their ceiling at that position.

Injury withstanding I think it’s more likely Fulton has his best year here than anything else.

His floor is keeping Nadine Johnson on the sideline barring injury

He will push Najee Johnston to become the best CB he can be.

This probably means Nathan Joneston will be relegated to special team duties.

Naladeen Johnsen's days are numbered, horray!

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With the price of CBs maybe it’s smart to take on in the first round.

If you did it based on talent to pick+money if you picked 27-32 every year you'd take a WR 75% of the time.

And who are you?

I loved him first!!!!

November of 2018. He didn't even end up entering the draft that year (surprised the hell out of me)

Been a fan of his a long time.

Everybody is expensive. Honestly, in relation to the guys they're tasked with shutting down, CBs are arguably a value proposition in FA.

Exactly, more CP BS:)

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He intercepted Mahomes on the play that injured Rashee Rice last season.

Honestly don't know squat about him.
Sounds like he's an outside guy, not a slot, and we're moving McDuffie back inside?

Most of the draftniks I've seen post are all saying we can stay at 31 and get a reliable starting DT at 31, Get another DE project that should work out in the 2nd round.

Gonna be nice to get Connor out of the slot

Adding depth for that kind of money?? I hope he's better than that

I don't know if this guy is good but another CB was needed.

Love your signature photo!

Sometimes, sure. He's a good coverage safety. I don't know if all the success has tainted people's perceptions of our players or if they just don't pay attention to the rest of the league.

Let's just look at this statistically... No wizard metrics
Bryan Cook gave up: 61.7% comp, 397 yards, 13.7 ypc, 3 TDs, 2 INTs, 6.0% missed tackles

Here's a listing of some of the better and more well-known FS's in the NFL
Camryn Bynum: 61.5% comp, 442 yards, 13.8 ypc, 2 TDs, 3 INTs, 6.8% missed tackles
Jevon Holland: 54.2% comp, 321 yards, 12.3 ypc, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 8.8% missed tackles
Kyle Hamilton: 72.4% comp, 326 yards, 7.8 ypc, 1 TD, 1 INT, 7.8% missed tackles - AP-2, PB
Budda Baker: 74.3% comp, 608 yards, 11.1 ypc, 7 TD, 0 INT, 9.9% missed tackles - AP-2 and PB
Geno Stone: 66.7% comp, 312 yards, 14.2 ypc, 5 TD, 4 INT, 15.6% missed tackles
Minkah Fitzpatrick: 78.8% comp 540 yards, 13.2 ypc, 4 TD, 1 INT, 4.0% missed tackles - Made PB
Justin Simmons: 59.5% comp, 229 yards, 10.4 ypc, 3 TD, 2 INT, 10.1% missed tackles
Tyrann Mathieu: 61.1% comp, 422 yards, 19.2 ypc, 1 TD, 3 INT, 19.5% missed tackles
Antoine Winfield Jr: 73.9% comop, 242 yards, 14.2 ypc, 2 TD, 0 INT, 13.0% missed tackles (9 games played)
Harrison Smith: 66.2% comp, 506 yards, 11.8 ypc, 4 TD, 3 INT, 9.4% missed tackles
Kerby Joseph: 44.2% comp, 330 yards, 17.4 ypc, 1 TD, 9 INT, 5.7% missed tackles - AP-1, PB

It sure looks like he fits in the better of that group, which includes 2 guys that made AP-2nd team.

Looks a lot like Camryn Bynum who was a priority FA and got 4/60 this year.

Wow, guess I missed that. I thought Reid did a great job.

That is more in line with what I remember.

He dropped off hard last season in coverage. Statistically, he went from a career low 60's completion percentage against to 77.4% and gave up 502 yards. Easily career worsts for him.

I think name recognition factors hard sometimes, and we tend to look past the reality. Look at the AP-2 guys from last year at Safety. Purely name, not performance.

I've been as guilty as anyone so I won't pretend not to be.

Charger fans seem to think he sucks

but if anyone can coach him up it's the Chiefs

You guys really need to stop basing your opinions off of what random opposing fans on a message board say.

The “he sucks unless we sign him” post has become a running joke around here, but it didn’t come from nowhere.

That’s absolutely the thought process of the average message board fan.

it's not an opinion its what they seem to be saying is all I said. I don't know much about non-Chief players unless they are really good or I notice them when they are playing the Chiefs.

Have you submitted a picture of your junk next to a stick of deodorant to Titty Meat, and PM’d Bob Dole yet to confirm your membership?

Honestly I REALLY wanna see the kid get a fair shot at FS.

I think he might be the best pure coverage safety we have on the roster.

If Titans fans wanna shit on him, I get that. His last couple years there were disappointing.

Chargers fans? They can take their sour grapes and **** all the way off. He was genuinely good for them last season.

Conner at FS and Hicks at SS feels like the future. I think a big part of this signing is it allows McDuffie and Conner to play where they are most comfortable. It was basically like improving three positions for the price of one.

That’s why Veach is a 4D chess wizard.

Dave Merritt is the best DB coach in the league. This dude will take his game up a notch.

Also it’s true

I think we trade up and snag Simmons if he falls into the 20's. That way we have Jaylon Moore for a year or two and then Simmons healing and developing behind him. Best case, Moore balls out and we sign him to a long term deal and slot in Simmons at RT to replace Juwaan Taylor. Worst case, Moore leaves in FA and we have Simmons at LT.

It's a little disappointing because I like Reid and in a vacuum he's probably a better player, but I agree, the secondary as a whole is better with Fulton.

Connor was certified trash another year like that and he won't be here

Surprised nobody suspects that Watts or Emmanwori could be who Veach wants.

Don’t see how going edge has become a popular take here in the last few days.

Ty sir. Pleasure to meet you.

He was not effective as a slot corner.

Now he gets to go back to a role more lined up with his skill set (true safety with coverage skills who is best when he can keep things in front of him and come downhill).

Our penciled in starter in FAU is a huge question mark, and we have no depth because Omenihu, Herring, and Uche are all FAs.

Yeah, Edge is a concern.

Not as much of a concern as DT at the moment but it's a pretty big need.

Shut up, n00b!

That's his schtick. No, he doesn't really believe that.

Need McDuffie deal done,