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OKchiefs 03-10-2025 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17994220)
We found a bandaid the first time and won the Super Bowl. We ****ed up last year and only won the AFC. This year free agency hasn't started yet and everybody knows the Chiefs are trying to get a tackle so maybe give it a few hours before declaring failure.

Whether it's a full on failure or simply a mediocre addition, my point is we're likely going to be debating over what LT options are out there again a year from now.

RunKC 03-10-2025 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17994207)
God damn you're a miserable whiny ****. What the **** do you want them to do dumbass?

When the Chiefs went 15-2 he was barely posting. His post count skyrocketed after the SB loss bc he jerks off to laying into this team as if it’s still Pioli or King Carl running the team

In58men 03-10-2025 09:01 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Ronnie Stanley suitors—the Chiefs, Commanders and Patriots—are looking at a wonky left-tackle market. The three starters left are Dan Moore, Jaylon Moore and Cam Robinson.<br><br>Robinson is the most talented, but maybe least reliable. Jaylon Moore is the upside guy. We&#39;ll see.</p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1899113049404928429?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 03-10-2025 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17994231)
When the Chiefs went 15-2 he was barely posting. His post count skyrocketed after the SB loss bc he jerks off to laying into this team as if it’s still Pioli or King Carl running the team

Yup, he has posted more in the last month than he did the last 3 ****ing years and it's SO obvious.

It's not a troll either. He's real. This dude clearly has serious mental issues.

chiefzilla1501 03-10-2025 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 17994214)
Am I wrong? This is the 3rd year in a row we're trying to put a bandaid at left tackle, chances are this will happen most every year here.

I mean the process of frustrating but maybe we took it a little for granted how easy it is. It seems as hard as finding a franchise qb these days. If you don’t have a lottery pick it’s hard. Teams don’t let great LTs go, and the market for those LTs when they happen to hit the market is huge

smithandrew051 03-10-2025 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17994234)
Yup, he has posted more in the last month than he did the last 3 ****ing years and it's SO obvious.

It's not a troll either. He's real. This dude clearly has serious mental issues.

If Chief Fan can’t be happy these last 7 years, has he ever enjoyed watching the Chiefs?

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2025 09:07 AM

I would go Moore but what do I know.

chop 03-10-2025 09:07 AM

The Chiefs now are most likely around 24m over the cap. Unless a deal gets done with Smith, I’m not sure they can jump into FA today.

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-10-2025 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chop (Post 17994240)
The Chiefs now are most likely around 24m over the cap. Unless a deal gets done with Smith, I’m not sure they can jump into FA today.

I’m sure Patrick deal has already fixed that problem

staylor26 03-10-2025 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17994237)
If Chief Fan can’t be happy these last 7 years, has he ever enjoyed watching the Chiefs?

Clearly not. I don't understand why you'd even choose to be a fan if the last 7 years haven't been amazing for you.

Iowanian 03-10-2025 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17994208)
Patriots have $121 million in cap space. More than anyone. The Chargers are 2nd and have $93 million.

They can afford to massively overpay and likely will. That’s who is probably getting Dan Moore Jr


Why would the chargers do that when they just drafted joe alt?

kysirsoze 03-10-2025 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17994243)
Clearly not. I don't understand why you'd even choose to be a fan if the last 7 years haven't been amazing for you.

I think a lot of people only engage with CP to express their Chiefs anxiety. Doesn't mean they don't enjoy the good stuff. They just don't tell us about it. It does make them pretty awful posters to engage with, however.

kysirsoze 03-10-2025 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 17994244)
Why would the chargers do that when they just drafted joe alt?

I think he was just illustrating how enormous the available cap space for the Patriots is and therefore how much they'll blow the top off the LT market.

Chiefnj2 03-10-2025 09:17 AM

Did every evaluator completely whiff on Kingsley, or is KC incapable of developing a tackle?

RealSNR 03-10-2025 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17994248)
Did every evaluator completely whiff on Kingsley, or is KC incapable of developing a tackle?


If we’re giving up on him at tackle completely, then it’s our own fault for not being patient enough.

GordonGekko 03-10-2025 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17994248)
Did every evaluator completely whiff on Kingsley, or is KC incapable of developing a tackle?

This question has been asked many times, I think the consensus answer is that the Chiefs never draft high enough to grab a premier LT prospect (top 10-15 pick at the highest). I do agree the whiff on Kingsley and Wanya needs to be addressed by Clark Hunt and that Veach, although amazing, has room for improvement. That whiff cost the Superbowl.

saphojunkie 03-10-2025 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17994091)
Not if it's plateaued. I think he has.

If you wanna do Donger stuff, be my guest.

Are you really saying you’re so familiar with Dan Moore’s year-over-year progress as to confidently make this decision?

New World Order 03-10-2025 09:22 AM

I don’t think we should start a tackle

nychief 03-10-2025 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17994253)
I don’t think we should start a tackle

Now we are really starting to think outside the box. This is what Steve Jobs would have done.

wazu 03-10-2025 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17994253)
I don’t think we should start a tackle

We just tried that in the Super Bowl and it didn't work.

New World Order 03-10-2025 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17994256)
We just tried that in the Super Bowl and it didn't work.

Let me rephrase.

There should be nobody in the physical space at LT on the field.

chiefzilla1501 03-10-2025 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chop (Post 17994240)
The Chiefs now are most likely around 24m over the cap. Unless a deal gets done with Smith, I’m not sure they can jump into FA today.

I know it’s a pipe dream but I still wonder if mahomes would consider a giveback. Maybe giving Travis another year is a good excuse to do that. I still feel like mahomes took a bigger contract because he was pressured to. I wonder if he’d consider this if it meant getting him some of the critical support players.

Nobody should expect him to and it’s probably wishful thinking. But if there’s a player more worried about legacy than money in this league, it’s him.

DJ's left nut 03-10-2025 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 17994251)
This question has been asked many times, I think the consensus answer is that the Chiefs never draft high enough to grab a premier LT prospect (top 10-15 pick at the highest). I do agree the whiff on Kingsley and Wanya needs to be addressed by Clark Hunt and that Veach, although amazing, has room for improvement. That whiff cost the Superbowl.

No it didn't.

The Chiefs were beaten across the board on that side of the ball.

nychief 03-10-2025 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17994259)
I know it’s a pipe dream but I still wonder if mahomes would consider a giveback. Maybe giving Travis another year is a good excuse to do that. I still feel like mahomes took a bigger contract because he was pressured to. I wonder if he’d consider this if it meant getting him some of the critical support players.

Nobody should expect him to and it’s probably wishful thinking. But if there’s a player more worried about legacy than money in this league, it’s him.



What the **** is a "giveback?"

Gary Cooper 03-10-2025 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17994260)
No it didn't.

The Chiefs were beaten across the board on that side of the ball.

Yeah, it's hard to pin 34-0 on the LT alone.

chiefzilla1501 03-10-2025 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17994261)
What the **** is a "giveback?"

Players restructure contracts all the time. People act like it’s such a generous act by the player. But it is not. It just means you’re pushing some guaranteed money to the back of the contract. Which makes the back years more and more guaranteed (see Deshaun Watson).

What’s way way less common is a player agreeing to a pay cut. I’ve always wondered if a player would consider giving back some of his base salary or roster bonus if it meant keeping or adding players who can help

More likely scenario is we turn his $32m roster bonus and prorate it. Mahomes’ contract is reasonable in the back years. But it’s a hand you don’t want to keep playing over and over.

kysirsoze 03-10-2025 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17994270)
Players restructure contracts all the time. People act like it’s such a generous act by the player. But it is not. It just means you’re pushing some guaranteed money to the back of the contract. Which makes the back years more and more guaranteed (see Deshaun Watson).

What’s way way less common is a player agreeing to a pay cut. I’ve always wondered if a player would consider giving back some of his base salary or roster bonus if it meant keeping or adding players who can help

More likely scenario is we turn his $32m roster bonus and prorate it. Mahomes’ contract is reasonable in the back years. But it’s a hand you don’t want to keep playing over and over.

He wouldn't do that simply for the precedent he'd be setting. He cares about legacy a lot, but he also isn't going to sell out the players.

Hammock Parties 03-10-2025 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17994253)
I don’t think we should start a tackle

So

4 offensive linemen

1 QB

5 receivers

1 RB?

saphojunkie 03-10-2025 09:53 AM

Posted this in the Ronnie Stanley thread, so I may as well shit up this one, too.

ESPN nextgen stats has Dan Moore as the #11 tackle in the league in terms of pass block win rate at 93%.

That's one spot higher than Ronnie Stanley, FWIW.

staylor26 03-10-2025 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17994283)
Posted this in the Ronnie Stanley thread, so I may as well shit up this one, too.

ESPN nextgen stats has Dan Moore as the #11 tackle in the league in terms of pass block win rate at 93%.

That's one spot higher than Ronnie Stanley, FWIW.

Interesting. That's probably the best advanced stat I've seen from him.

saphojunkie 03-10-2025 09:57 AM

Juwaan Taylor is tied with Stanley at 92%. they both had 9 penalties this year.

Stanley had 4 holding, 3 false start, two others.

Taylor had 3 holding, FIVE false starts, one other (probably illegal formation).

Dante84 03-10-2025 09:57 AM

Bad day for Twitter to be down.

New World Order 03-10-2025 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17994275)
So

4 offensive linemen

1 QB

5 receivers

1 RB?

Exactly.

saphojunkie 03-10-2025 09:59 AM

Ten receivers and they all go deep

nychief 03-10-2025 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17994295)
Exactly.



This is good. Lets bring in DOGE and do away with offensive line all together.

Delano 03-10-2025 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17994283)
Posted this in the Ronnie Stanley thread, so I may as well shit up this one, too.

ESPN nextgen stats has Dan Moore as the #11 tackle in the league in terms of pass block win rate at 93%.

That's one spot higher than Ronnie Stanley, FWIW.

Any idea how long Russ took to throw? Always seems like he held on forever which would make Moore’s win rate more impressive. Or not, I’m not sure what goes into that stat. What’s Moores pressure rate?

srvy 03-10-2025 10:10 AM

jalon is our new lt

srvy 03-10-2025 10:11 AM

Just announced on NFL Network 2 years 30 million.

stumppy 03-10-2025 10:49 AM

WooHoo! Chiefs just signed future HOF Tackle! Yeeeessssss!


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