3 1st rounders for Metcalf + Cross! Done and Done!

get the bargain dk ... aka lockett, he would be much more affordable

If we can get him for 63 or 66 I’d really consider it. Veach’s 3 year contract structure is fine here. Wouldn’t affect a McDuffie deal. Probably not much for Trey either if it’s a 5 year deal. WR class is weak this year too.

Help Mahomes

Paying him $30m when Rice and Worthy very likely would get more targets would be crazy.

Man we can help Mahomes so many other ways while also giving ourselves a chance to preserve a good enough defense.

The idea of Metcalf in KC is fun but we missed our chance in 2019.

Brown as WR3 is plenty enough help and then we can focus on paying our next LT who will have far greater impact than DK would.

I don't think adding a shitty and limited route runner is what Andy is looking for in this offense. Worthy just kind of started turning things around the last 4 games. Guys like JuJu and DHop probably helped a ton with that process.

One thing that I keep hammering to people about the offense: Justin Watson has the most WR snaps of anyone in the WR room the last 2 years. He was legitimately WR1 for Mahomes for a good part of the last 2 years while Rice was learning early in 2023 and then for a month from the Rice injury to the Hopkins trade while Worthy was still learning.

They have got to get 2 veteran WR’s to make sure that shit doesn’t happen again. Obviously they want to bring Hollywood back which is great.

Metcalf is simply an option. I personally really like the idea of Christian Kirk 1 year cheap deal bc he knows the offense and has been a legit WR3 that can play WR2. He’s been a consistent 700 yard WR and is only 29 with juice left in the tank.

I really want Veach to attack the offense in FA. We have a replacement for Justin Reid in house. We have a potential replacement for Bolton in house.

Help your QB. The offensive personnel has been total shit the last 2 years. Don’t count on Rice bc you don’t know. Draft a WR in rd 3 but don’t count on them in any way bc we all know it takes time in this offense.

Trading a pick and paying a WR 30 mil a year isn't gonna happen here methinks.

Especially for a guy that's not really what they typically look for in WR's.

Now if it were a....shit I dunno.....Waddle type? Ceedee?

But a guy that relies on deep balls and 50/50 types? nah.

I don't think we should pay $30 million either, but I don't think he's just a guy that catches jump balls. He's had a really good career so far with productive numbers. Reid and Mahomes can do a lot with a great WR in his prime.

Also, we don't have much precedent with "jump ball" WRs besides Hopkins, who was clearly washed. We can't definitively say that it wouldn't work out with the right guy.

The odds are definitely in your favor this time.

We've had the prime years of the GOAT TE who is about 6'6 and we never really threw those.

It's just not something we're gonna do here.

That's not Kelce's game. He's a YAC guy despite his size. They found other, better uses for him. Meanwhile, someone like Gonzalez excelled at jump balls because he wasn't elusive after the catch. Maybe if Mahomes had a Gonzalez, he would have thrown more lobs to him. It wouldn't be as effective as Kelce, but would help in the red zone.

Also, Metcalf is fast. He's not just some big WR who catches lobs. He can stretch a defense. It's been a few years now, but he ran a 4.33 dash. His highlight reel isn't just jump balls.

It's not gonna happen, but something that should be considered as we're staring down a future of this no longer being a TE based offense.

I think others here have talked about transitioning to a WR focused offense, and I think that makes sense. If we can lean a liiiittle bit more on a running game too, even better.

You don't think it's something Kelce would have excelled at?

They want guys that get separation.

Maybe. But he didn't need to. He excelled with his style. Kelce was basically a WR/TE hybrid.

Metcalf isn't worth $30 million for the Chiefs but he can get separation.

4 years of Rice, Worthy and THIS?

I'm coming around, no matter the cost.
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Seattle is looking for a 1st and 3rd for Metcalf. There is no way in hell Veach is trading for him. None. Zip. Zero. Nadda.

I think they'll eventually settle for the Patriots 2nd.

I'm looking for a soapy tit-wank with Sydney Sweeney.

They aren't getting anywhere NEAR that, considering the contract he'll be asking for.

General consensus seems to be a R3 pick and a 3 year, $88M deal with $40-50M guaranteed.

Posters will see this and still think we need to pay Bolton or Reid or both instead of trading and paying him when this WR room has been composed of MVS, Watson, Skyy, Toney and Hopkins the last 2 years.

Reports are the Seahawks would be lucky to get a 2nd. No idea why trading one of 63 or 66 is a bad deal.

Do we want the offense to be good again or not?

Can't they just take Mecole Hardman for him?

Might come down to settling for a top of 2 plus something else because not a lot of playoff teams are going to take on 18m

We don’t need DK Metcalf at $30M per year, while also subtracting really good draft capital to be good again on offense. Good grief snap out of it Run.

We need an average or better left tackle to be really good on offense again. That’s it. Because that is what’s going to get Mahomes back on track too. The weapons are not a problem. We’re talking about needing RB help definitely and a WR3 + 4. That’s it.

Just sign Lockett.






Would've been cool to select him over Phil Gaines lmao

Yeah, I'd rather sign Lockett for beans.

If we're dipping into the short WR well, just bring back Hollywood who is 5-6 years younger.

We have got to stop constructing this team like it has Alex Smith at QB. We need to face the facts and be honest: the only reliable playmaking weapon on this offense currently is Xavier Worthy. That’s it.

We are all hopeful that Rice is back healthy and the same guy but will he be the same? Hollywood Brown is probably back on a 1 year deal, but he gets injured frequently. Kelce’s done fellas. He can give us a few games of old school Kelce but he’s not a weekly force anymore and his YAC ability is not anywhere near what it was 3 years ago.

They had the least explosive RB room in football. There was no goddamn threat outside of Worthy on this football team most of the season.

If you can get DK Metcalf for pick 63 or 66 (one pick, not both) you do that all ****ing day. They are not paying a single weapon on this offense anything after this year. Kelce and Hollywood are both likely off this team in 2026. If anything. Metcalf makes Kelce more valuable bc he’s not a top target on offense.

This draft isn’t good at WR. It’s not. There guys I like that are rd 3 developmental players but we need answers now.

I cannot believe folks are wanting to pay a slow LB with issues in coverage and a 29 year old safety money instead of using that money to pay for DK Metcalf.

**** me man. Are we really gonna keep doing the “Mahomes needs to put on the cape” bullshit to elevate a bad offensive roster again for a 3rd year in a row?

You can pay Cam Robinson or Ronnie Stanley. You can also trade and pay for DK Metcalf for 3 years.

Imagine this offense with Robinson or Stanley at LT, DK Metcalf and a RB like Judkins that you traded up for? This offense is scoring 30 burgers with relative ease weekly

And yeah if you are against trading draft capitol I get it. Then spend on this guy.

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Really good points in the bold, man.

People seem to be forgetting that Rashee had a pretty catastrophic knee injury. I certainly hope he comes back 100% of his old self, but anyone EXPECTING it is delusional.

I'm going to preface this by saying this would never happen, and player for player trades never happen, but...

Seattle desperately needs interior OL help.

Yep. Think so also.

You're advocating to construct the team like they did with Alex. Weapons, lineman, etc.

If you need all these weapons around for a guy to be successful, well....we should probably discuss why he's being paid the way he is.

Kelce's 20ish million dollar cap hit hurts man

Roster bonus conversions are coming, just a matter of who.

The 2014 Chiefs were very similar to the 2023/2024 Chiefs. 7th in total defense, 2nd in points allowed, major offensive personnel issues outside of Jamaal Charles and first year Travis Kelce.

Same exact type of team. With Alex that team went 9-7 and missed the playoffs. With Patrick Mahomes that same type of team went to back-to-back SB’s winning one of them.

Hope this helps

Sure, he tore his LCL. Knee ligament injuries aren't that much to overcome anymore. Considering he tore his at the end of September, he'll be rolling by TC and then likely will have a suspension to deal with that will end up putting him a year out. He'll be fine. Maybe he won't be as explosive this year, but he'll be a factor.

There are WRs in FA. Chris Godwin, Darius Slayton, Elijah Moore. We'll have options. Hollywood might be back. Don't go throwing picks and money away at a position we have two quality players at already.

And this helps your arguement.....how?

They built up the defense, went to 3 straight SB's.

Now we wanna blow it out to get back to talent stacked offense because.....why?

And Alex Smith constructed team was one that went out and signed Maclin, drafted guys high until they finally figured that it didn't matter who you put around him, you would basically get the same output.

Until they got two all time greats in Hill and Kelce.

The absolutely worst thing this team could do is trade away picks and pay a big contract. This team is fortunate that it isn’t paying a 30m per year contract to a WR. You want to add something to the offense draft a kid in the 4th.

LOL goddammit you guys suck. I'm bored AF and was really hoping for some "drink some antifreeze" responses.

Y'all are no fun.

The offense had a HOF WR and HOF TE to start. Those guys are both gone. Kelce may be here but he’s turning 36 next season.

The offense needs to be rebuilt and the draft ain’t the place to do it this year except at RB. Pay for a competent LT. Pay for another weapon.

If you don’t want to trade for Metcalf I get it. Then go sign Darius Slayton for example.

The draft is very rich on defense. Reload the defense there.

Draft the best guys, offense/defense I don't really have an issue there.

But trading for an older 3rd contract WR and giving him 30 million when he's not really an ideal fit here for what they wanna do....I'd not do that.

If you wanna go trade picks and pay a guy, go blow out Jerry and trade for Micah.

This is why I wouldn't be opposed to it.

This years' FA class isn't great. Especially at WR. Bunch of older guys and/or brokedicks.

The draft class is HEAVILY slanted to the defensive side of the ball.

A DK trade, addressing the LT position and drafting a RB means you don't have to touch the offensive side of the ball for 3-4 years - with the exception of replacing Jawaan - and that may be in house as Wanya looks WAY better on the right side.

I get why people may be against it, I'm just surprised how many people don't see the benefit at all.

He's 27?

And how is he not a fit for what they do? I don't know why everyone believes he's nothing but a jump ball guy.

Watch that video I posted earlier. Ironically, most of it Geno is *running for his life* and DK just finds a way to get open.

What have we been complaining about since Reek left?

No one can get open.

They traded away a guy they didn't want to pay that kind of money to at WR who fit perfectly.

DK isn't going to be the route runner they want, he's just so damn big.

I'm not against that type of guy if they'd use them correctly, but they just never have so Imma assume they won't.

Plus you've got Rice and Worthy. They need to add a 3rd (maybe a 4th wr) but those aren't gonna be super expensive.

Because adding weapons doesn't mean you create a log jam at the top of the WR depth chart, and that's exactly what you are doing by adding a DK Metcalf.

You think WRs are divas, force a bunch of them that are starters to share reps and become backups.

Add a quality slot WR to Rice and Worthy and a nice developmental guy to be your #4 and that's truthfully all you need. #5 and #6 are mostly special teamers and you know you already got one of those in Remigio. I'd argue look at the #5 as a gadget guy that can contribute on special teams.

I'd buy that slot guy, whether that's Hollywood or Moore or whatever.

I'd see how the draft falls for me regarding #4. If I can snag a guy in the 3rd or 4th round I like I'd do that, else I'd revisit FA post-draft with a pickup like we did with Watson.

I'd probably look hard at a guy like A.J. Henning from Northwestern on day 3 to be that #5 gadget/KR/PR guy.

They aren't going to be any good, either.

I think you know that I'm just arguing for arguing's sake, but I don't think that makes me wrong.

I'm also tired of having a ****ing McLaren in the garage but only being able to drive it in the ****ing subdivision.

I'm grateful AF for all these SB's, but let's be honest - we've been "getting by" on offense. I have a hard time shitting on a move that would make the offense dominant again, especially with a soon-to-be-gone Kelce.

I'll be honest I think a lot of people preferred the early Mahomes years more where it was 35+ all the time.

Yes I'm glad we win, I'd also like fun sometimes.

Yeah if people don’t want to use a pick I get it. But they need to be aggressive.

The point is they can’t risk having a guy like Justin Watson starting anymore. DK is the big playmaker but I wouldn’t be opposed to Hollywood Brown (they want him back so I’m listing him) as well as someone like Christian Kirk. He’ll pay $3 million for Ty Johnson and draft Jaydon Blue or Bayshul Tuten to pair with him and Pacheco.

This team had 4 LT’s last year, Justin Watson as WR1 for a month, washed Hopkins for half a season, old washed Kareem and even had Carson Steele starting a game.

They have to upgrade the talent and add playmakers at receiver and RB. It’s been mostly bottom of the barrel the last 2 years.

*whispers*

Worthy IS your slot.

I'm tired of our half a billion dollar QB depending on guys like Justin Watson and JJSS.

And he's losing his security blanket.

He needs to be outside more to reach his full potential, imo.

And it's not like we have to spend spend spend to do that, how about you just use some high picks on RB and WR?

Rice and Worthy great..add another WR and a dynamic RB. We're gonna end up being like Ron Wolf when he had Favre "I wonder what it would have been had I given him more weapons"

I don't have an issue with doing what you guys are saying.

But when the defense can't get any stops because the offense was forced to punt 1 time, this place will be fun.

They'll keep trying to add weapons, but last year especially was just really unlucky.

If Rice doesn't go down, I don't think we're having any discussions.

As opposed to Peyton Mannings Colts "we just couldn't get stops".

So this McLaren....

In Mahomes' best statistical season, his starters were JuJu and MVS. We had Hardman, Watson, Toney, and Moore primarily as the next guys. Not exactly McLaren quality.

During the Hill years/2019-2021 run, we had an always-injured Sammy Watkins, DeMarcus Robinson, Hardman, Pringle, and De'Anthony Thomas/Dieter in some kind of weird combination. Where are all the high-end weapons outside of Hill?

The real deal here is Mahomes had better protection from his OTs. It wasn't the weapons. Hill was the only truly explosive weapon we had. We got exceptional play from Travis and really good play from our RBs in the receiving game throughout the years, whether it was McKinnon or Williams or whoever.

Rice and Worthy are the best 1-2 punch at WR that Mahomes has ever had. Adding a slot that's better than Hardman gives him, far and away, the best set of weapons he's ever had.

I think you guys are way overthinking the need for weaponry. Drink some antifreeze, go **** a hooker and get aids, and calm the **** down.

This is where I'm at.

- Rice (assuming he's healthy)
- Worthy
- Hollywood
- Burden (hopefully!)
- Remigio
- (another vet)
- (another rook?)

Kelce in his last year, Gray, and Wiley are fine, supposedly, but those aren't the weapons you build around any longer, especially considering Kelce is at the end of the line. Build up the WR room (with a playmaking RB thrown in the mix for screens and wheels) and let Mahomes cook.

Again I ask…what weapons?

Justin Watson was our WR1 dude. We were relying on him and Juju. They signed Perine at the end of camp. Then Kareem. Hopkins is a prime example of why Veach doesn't like investing in 30+ year old players unless he has to.

This offense was basically putting us in 3rd and 5+ and asking Mahomes to put on the cape.

We aren’t asking for All-Pro’s. We are simply asking for a re-stock of young, proven explosive veterans. Not ****ing washed garbage who were good 3+ years ago.

The offensive talent this year was similar to when the defense had Orlando Scandrick and Mike Hughes on defense. Fix it

Your point is well taken, especially saying Rice and Worthy are the best tandem he's had given a good slot weapon comes with the deal.

The counterpoint I would give is that Hill and Kelce were SO good and SO in their primes during those years that everyone else around those two were basically moot, even if they were above average producers on offense.

Rashee Rice and Worthy were your #1 WR's.

Shit happens.

Yeah, that's the thing. There are only so many balls to go around if you have two really good receivers of some type.

I think Gray is a really solid TE. Might not be Kelce, but he's capable of being a guy you can lean on a bit and be a 750-850 yard TE if he's the every-down guy. That's pretty solid.

You add a quality slot and an RB that can make plays out of the backfield, suddenly you have a high-octane offense.

The calls for all these high-end weapons like a Metcalf seem unwarranted. Buy Hollywood or Elijah Moore, get a RB, draft a #4, and you're in really good hands at that point, IMO.

The thing that's truly hard to obtain is a LT to allow that machine to work. That has to be the focus above all things in FA and the draft. You can't just settle for a FA and call it a day. You need a guy developing behind him too because if that FA gets injured you're ****ed again.

I'm really not a fan of collecting 5'9, 170 pound WR's, but if we're not going to TRULY attack the position, then sure - bring back Hollywood.

This is kinda where I'm at.

Everyone wants all these weapons....Sure.

Would love that. But the best offenses aren't loading up with that many weapons. Yes, they have accessory parts but they've got their couple of big weapons that they just feed the football.

The Lions have a great WR/TE/RB's. Good other pieces.

They're not paying alot to them yet.

Yeah, a high end 3rd WR option isn't really necessary. Unless Rice is just completely worthless after injury I'd feel pretty comfortable pencilling in both him and Worthy near or even over 1000 yards, and with Kelce providing a third option we have what we need there. Even when this offense was at its best the third option in the offense was typically pulling in 600 to 800 yards.

The Lions are one year away from exactly what we're suggesting.

The Bengals are about to be paying TWO guys near/at the top of the market, with Burton being their cheap guy.

WE ARE currently paying Travis while Rice and Worthy are cheap. (ironic who won't be here next year...)

The Eagles have gone void year crazy, allowing them to have 3 of their top 7 cap hits be AJ, Devonta and Goedart.

Seattle WAS paying DK and Lockett, with JSN on the rookie deal.

I'd say those are five pretty good offenses, and if you look at it from the perspective of DK replacing Kelce, not a ton changes. You're paying one guy while your other two are on team friendly deals, and you replace Pat's security blanket.

This isn't just about this year.

It just sucks that the injuries happened when they did.

Say that happens in Philly. Take Saquan away for most of the year, AJ Brown goes down for the year in weak 3....etc.

Burrow with no Jamar Chase for the season and a hobbled up second option.

It's just not gonna look good, then add in the QB doesn't trust the OL.

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I thought you were referring to Burden at the combine they had him at 6' 206

LOL, no Hollywood.

There's a reason no team has 3-peated.

Makes sense with them letting Diggs walk and Tank Dell's future uncertain.

Yeah, that's why if one of Egbuka or Burden gets to them at the end of the 1st, I like the idea of investing there. Keep stocking young, rookie deal weapons. Buy your LT (either a bit-ticket single guy or throwing numbers at it). Load up on D in the draft.

Protect Mahomes better from the blindside and add a more capable slot guy, and all of a sudden, that offense is flying high.

Having a pair of YAC monsters like Rice and Burden paired with Worthy is pretty fun stuff. And if you're less reliant on the TE as a premium receiving weapon, what that guy does is less predictable. You know Kelce is going to run choice routes for the most part, because that's the Chiefs' best chance to move the ball (or has been). Using the TE occasionally as a blocker, or having them run defined routes that aren't just playground feel stuff, is going to add some unpredictability back. Which is positive...

If they get their O-line figured out, they're legit. Young QB, great defense, skilled players on offense.

QB took a major step back last year and their HC is a fraud.

He was completely unprepared late against the Chiefs and then blamed refs.

They won’t win anything of importance until they get a better coach.

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maybe because we proved we can't win a SB if we go 9 straight drives in the SB punting 7 times and without scoring a point? Just spit-balling here.

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Cliff notes? I’m not giving this clicks.

A DK Metcalf trade would be ****ing stupid.

That is all.

is it something that nobody saw coming?!?!