I don't think we'd bring Reid back with Hicks waiting in the wings, and honestly, I think it's going to be an improvement.

I wouldn't bring Smith back if he wants the bag that's been talked about. He's simply not THAT good. I'd give him the 11 per that Cesar Ruiz was extended for but we all know that will definitely not happen. Just let him walk. Think that we signed Thuney for 16 per and then imagine paying Smith 20+... Illogical, even with time value of money factored in.

I do think we'll offer Omenihu a fair deal and I do think we'll offer Bolton more than a fair deal. Whether or not they take it is another story. I won't be sad if both end up walking.

I've been vocal about wanting KC to get more athletic at LB and I think there are better options than Omenihu out there if he starts getting up there in dollars.

Does it really matter who started the GDT? That is stupid superstation! The fact is that we won the first matchup and they won the second one - shit happens :thumb: We still went to the SB 5 times in the last 6 years. I will take winning 3 and losing 2 ALL DAY LONG! :thumb:
On to the 2025 season please! Nothing to see here.

So is it safe to assume by now there will be zero change on the offensive coaching staff?

Unfortunately... I really hoped Reid would replace Heck and possibly Bleymaier. No dice.

Hiring Orr seems to indicate to me that Rod Wilson will move into D'Alesio's spot coaching Safeties (he was a DB coach before moving to OLBs).

House has done it all defensively at one point or another. Getting him back in-house with his current role sure seems like a potential move to groom him as a future NFL DC but who knows. He'll definitely be involved with LBs and game planning.

Though there's no way in hell it happens under Any Reid, I'd love for the Chiefs to shift to a run heavy offense, utilizing a pair of explosive RB's.

I wouldn't be mad if they drafted 2 RB's. One early and one late. The depth of this class insane. Give me a Hampton or Henderson early and a LeQuint Allen late on Day 3 and let me bludgeon defenses en route to a 4th consecutive Super Bowl appearance.

Postseason losses are turning this fanbase into a bunch of idiots, again. ROFL

Neuter the greatest asset in league history because of one game. ROFLROFLROFL

We don’t need to shift to a run first offense.

Mahomes just needs some frickin blocking.

Relax numbnuts. It's nothing to do with one game or ANY game for that matter. More so just something I'd like to see that would never happen for obvious reasons.

They're going to have to do something with Jawaan Taylor. His cap # next year is fourth highest on the team at $27,391,666. That's about 10% of the team cap. He's vastly overpaid but I don't think cutting him is the answer. A restructure seems like the best outcome considering the dead money & other o-line issues.

The most obvious reason being it's dumb. It isn't 1995 and we have Patrick Mahomes.

I don't think they HAVE to do something with Taylor. They might.

But if they're looking to move on from him after 2025, the best bet would be sitting tight on that deal, if you can.

If they move Taylor around, they're likely committing to him for 2025, 2026, and 2027. Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to me (I don't get overly hysterical about what he is like Facebook-level fans).

More likely, to me, they create room by doing something with Mahomes' contract, extend Thuney a few years, and maybe do something with Jones' deal.

Not at all. It’s not sensible to have three out of five OL positions on massive second contracts.

Trey was a great pick. We got great value out of him, but he's not the guy you want to sink a bunch of money into, IMO.

We’re stuck with his contract for at least 2025. The dead cap number, even if he was designated a post-June 1st cut, is still greater than/equal to his current cap hit.

We can’t save money on him until 2026. In fact, he may just play out his entire contract. His cap hit in 2026 is also $27m.

I’m just not sure you can replace LT, RG, and TE in two offseasons, especially if we lose a large portion of Bolton, Reid, Omenihu, Hollywood in this FA period.

No shit, Agatha Christie. Mahomes is the reason I'd like to see a run-focused offense as odd (or ridiculous) as that may sound.

I think D-coordinators would shit themselves having to face a daunting ground game knowing that, at any given point Mahomes could shred them through the air. So in this case, a run-heavy design wouldn't exactly mean the offense is one-dimensional. In fact, it could potentially be even more explosive. But that's just me.

It's a dumb idea. Let it go.

The Chiefs should not pay Trey Smith. He’s overrated and nowhere close to as good as Thuney in pass pro.

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I'll miss Trey, his demeanor especially.

That said I think it's very obvious he'd better fit with an offense that's run-first. The same way it seems better for our WRs to be separators, I would think it's best for our OL to be pass blockers first.

That's why Kingsley, with what should be really good feet for a guard, actually excites me on some level. I think he will be a really good pass protector in there.

You're right, it does sound ridiculous, and I have been advocating for more of a running game for years now.

We need a better threat at RB Some speed and elusiveness, but it should not ever be a run heavy team. Run enough to keep em honest.

Would we be interested in DK Metcalf for our 1st? Read a rumor SEA might be interested in trading him.

Nope. Hard pass on trading the 1st and then giving him a huge contract.

No, but I would trade Hardman and Moore for him and finally put that baby to rest.

I would strongly prefer to stand pat with Taylor's deal. I don't hate the player, but we are overpaying. I'd rather have the opportunity to move on in 26 if we feel that is best.

Please don't get on this train.

LMAO

You may be right, but pushing Mahomes’ money further & further & further out will lead to an unwieldy albatross. The Piper has to be paid at some point. Taylor is overpaid, but I don’t think that they’re looking to get rid of him. He’s still a young player and has improved his play. That said, he doesn’t seem to have a much higher ceiling & is overpaid at RT. I’ll wager you some casino cash that he gets his contract reworked. :)

I can dig it. Balance is best, I agree. I guess I just want DC's to basically be forced to choose how they want to die.

I'd love to see the Chiefs rotate two-three backs, constant fresh legs, and beat a defense to death with the running game even if just for few a scattered games throughout the season.

Commentator A: "Chiefs on their way to another win here and I gotta say, I haven't seen anything like this since the 90s...80s even. This is throwback, smashmouth football and I never thought I'd see this from Andy Reid. But here we are and it's brutal. Look at this defense, gasping... heads down. Slow to get up after every play. "

Commentator B: "Yeah, brutal is right. And they've still got Mahomes and these receivers. They can kill ya through the air if they want. They're still explosive. I don't envy D-coordinators facing this Chiefs offense in 2025. This is absolute nightmare fuel."

But pushing Mahomes out is the plan. They designed that contract - with its low signing bonus - so they could move money from it any time they needed to. It’s really designed to have money moved every year. His current prorated cap hits are small, for an elite QB.

I’ve heard they’re working on an adjustment/reworking/extension of the deal, again.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they move Taylor’s money and wouldn’t bet against it happening. Just saying they don’t HAVE to do it. The hit is big this year because they’ve done it already …

Are they planning to just do another redo of Mahomes deal like in the past or a tear up and new deal?

I don’t know for sure - just that they’re working on a new deal/adjusting the deal.

I would think we're getting pretty close to an extension for Mahomes. I'd like to see it happen after a kick-ass 2025 season though.

Give him another five years, move a bunch of cash up like they did two years ago, then you got another five years to spread money out.

Watched Omenihu's interview on Kay Adams. Really hope we can keep that guy. He's sharp-minded.

Not to mention he's almost certain to be back to his 2023 form off the ACL.

Eh, I'm kinda either way on it. I'd prefer Chase Young myself.

I'd be fine with that. But I do think Omenihu is more trustworthy when it comes to forking a bunch of cash over.

So it is nostalgia...

They said they will re-visit Mahomes deal in 2026. Also I think Chase Young is gonna get insane money next month. Would love to have him but yeah.

They are probably gonna draft a DL with pick 31 tbh

How much is Hendrickson gonna get if Bengals can’t re-sign him?

FAU 2.0?

He's under contract so he'd be traded.

My bad, thought his contract was up end of 24 season.

Joey Bosa expected to be released

https://x.com/nflrums/status/1892457687784272062?s=61

Isn’t he the brother who’s constantly broken and out?

Oh wait, that’s both of them LMAO

He'd be cheaper, I actually think Bosa would be a pretty nice fit.

He’s broke man. He just can’t be relied on.

May very well be.

But he's also high upside for cheaper than you're gonna get on a guy like that who's not go the injury issues.

Eek. I don't think he's the type of WR we covet. I mean I would take him obv but not at the cost. He's a Joe Burrow WR.

Gotta bring Hollywood back man the FA WR’s this year are absolute ass.

Godwin is now the top guy and has had multiple major leg injuries in recent years. No thanks

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Dynami Brown is interesting.

He got hot towards the end of the season.

He's not leaving Washington with Daniels throwing him the ball

He will after they trade for Jamaar Chase.

For this team, is there ANYONE that would prefer Hopkins over Hollywood? At least with Hollywood you can hope he stays healthy. Hopkins is a second Kelce out there in terms of threatening the defense vertically.

They are more likely to trade for Myles Garrett I think…

He’s runs a 4.2? Doesn’t Andy like speed above all else? Think MVS but he can actually run all the routes and can actually catch.

I mean Bosa can smell a Sunday roast on Wednesday but I'd still kick the tires

Do you think he still runs 4.2?

Speaking of Chargers, saw they are playing in Brazil Week 1 as home team

Bet your ass it'll be the Chiefs getting shafted with that one

But, Philly went there last year so there's that

That was a bit strange for me as well.

Higgins has injury concerns, Godwin & Diggs are both coming off of major knee injuries, Cooper was ho hum in Buffalo, Hopkins was ho hum in KC, and Keenan Allen is well past his prime.

From that list, Hollywood would be my #1 target due to familiarity with our offense.

Turpin would be next up. He would cover the punt return role and offers some explosiveness as a WR3 or WR4.

Dyami Brown is young and interesting.

Slayton has historically been good for 700ish yards having spent all of his time in NYG with terrible QBs on a terrible team. He’s in a good spot where he’s a veteran but not over the hill. He could potentially be an awesome WR3 for us.

Noah Fant, Dynami Brown, Christian Kirk are the 3 I’d have some interest in. Maybe the LB from Dallas who seems like a role player, but seems to have some ST experience which KC loves.

Does he have to?


I mean, he's averaging 1,000yds/season and 15+yds/reception. And in the two or three games I saw him in last season, he certainly looked faster than MVS ever did. Maybe he's slowed down to 4.3? Whatever, he's a big bodied WR that's as fast as just about any top-10 WR in the league, can run the whole route tree and has pretty good, if not great, hands.


And he's only 27.

I know everyone is worried about the OL, but sweet Jesus we have a huge problem at WR.

Only Worthy and Rice under contract, no idea what we'll get out of Rashee and then a bunch of meh in the FA pool.

Even if we find a way to bring Hollywood back, we still need 3-4 bodies.

I'd look into Turpin as a WR/KR.

Great special teams and made plays when he got on the field.



”The 28-year-old Turpin might be the most intriguing restricted free agent in the league. As arguably the NFL's most dangerous kick returner and a developing receiver, he'd have considerable outside interest. Can the Cowboys afford to give him the second-round tender at $5.2 million — meaning if he left, that team would owe Dallas a second-round pick? If the Cowboys go with the lower tender, Turpin will get a compelling offer sheet from another team that Dallas might not be able to match.” — FOX Sports

Probably 2 WRs.

We do also have Remigio, Ross, and Thornton under contract by the way.

With a splash of insanity and bloodlust? Yeah, I guess you could say so.

I like Thornton’s fit as a Watson replacement who gets 18-20 or so snaps a game and can really cause problems with his speed and provide YAC that our depth receivers just couldn’t give us this year.

Bring back Hollywood. Juju too to help fill in for Rice. That would be 5 deep.

I personally like KJ Osborn as a cheap veteran depth receiver as well. Only 27, was a consistent 500 yard WR in Minnesota for years before he went to literal hell in NE.

Not a big fan of this WR class tbh.

The way Mahomes and Hollywood were talking to each other at the end of the SB makes it seem like it’s already a done deal that he’s coming back. Veach will find a way to bring Trey back as well.

Also strongly believe that Kingsley is going to be the day 1 starter at LT next year and they will draft a CB round 1.

Think there’s any truth to the rumors floating out there that Nick Bolton is set to agree to a 4 year $60 mil. extension?

And how would everyone feel about that contract for Bolton, if true??


That contract would put him right in the company of Matt Milano and Patrick Queen, but not near the top where Roquan Smith and Fred Warner reside.

13-15 APY was the range I’ve seen so your rumor isn’t the worst thing. Doesn’t really solve the problems the defense has between the hashes.

I’d be happy if that was the contract.

I’d prefer 3/45, but that’s gonna be the APY regardless and ultimately what the deal guarantees anyhow.

I could deal with that extension. Still seems a bit rich but Bolton is a huge tone setter and basically runs the defense from the middle. I was worried he’d get north of 18, so 15 is fine.

Totally fine with it.

With the huge cap increase, we should probably expect 20 to be a decent price.

He was my draft crush at WR in that year, can't see him leaving Washington though

What ever percentage the cap increased. I imagine will be added to what agents ask

Something I've been bouncing around in my head last 24 or so hrs,

in this cap era, seems like every team has a weakness, every year. Ya can't put together a perfect team. You obviously wanna prevent them as much as possible especially at critical mass positions (see LT last year)... but there's always going to be something that threatens your team from reaching the goal.

But, is there ever a good reason not to take the BPA on your board in the draft? Assuming it's clear cut who the top guy is.

For example, let's say KC enters the draft with only Tranquill and Leo at LB. In theory the position is relatively weak short and long term. You feel like you should take one early. But it lines up where your BPA by far are guys at RB, DT, CB in some order early on. You never really have a LB on the board you love or think is a long term answer.

Is it not better to just say, well, damn LB might be a weak link we gotta work around for a year, but we're going to turn (insert position) into a mega strength?

You need a bunch of good to great players to win Super Bowls and be a dynasty (see draft classes 2021-22). Does it matter what positions they play, or is it just a race to have 20+ good to great players every year and you figure out how to leverage those strengths best from year to year?

The issue with drafting for “needs” is you don’t really know what needs are yet and you miss out on things.

If we’d have taken BPA we’d probably have Porter Jr and mcduffie at cb

Remember in 2021 when the Chiefs defense was composed of little talent and older declining players?

Mike Hughes, Daniel Sorenson, Ben Neumann, Anthony Hitchens, Alex Okafor and then older declining vets in Frank Clark and Tyrann Matheiu.

Feels like that’s where we are on offense now. Granted they’ve gotten a good start with Rice/Worthy but man they need to inject real talent and youth into some of these positions on offense.

To your point, DL looks incredible this year. I would think getting one of those beasts would be a priority as BPA in rd 1.

It's amazing that some people think Trey is coming back... he gone. They are likely going with what they have, shuffle the deck, let training camp decide the 5 best. Maybe they draft OL...

I’m one of those guys, I think he’s the most likely FA to return. We have 1.5 holes already at OT, seems like a step backward to let a top OG go. Was this his best year? No. But who’s guaranteed to be better? I’m influenced by a video I saw that indicated his struggles are tied to Taylor’s play style.

Trey is probably going to be highest-paid guard in the NFL. He's not worth it, at all.

Maybe it's just me but I think paying your interior OL like they are OT's is a recipe for disaster.

The only way paying Trey makes any sense at all is if you're done with Thuney and honestly Trey isn't a perfect fit in the Chiefs scheme.

Paying Trey Smith would be incredibly annoying. On any given Sunday this season he'd be the second worst OL on the field for the Chiefs and there were a couple games he was worse than the rotating door of sadness at LT.

He's not a great fit for what the Chiefs do on offense, also he and Taylor's skill sets don't fit together at all. Like I feel like Thuney and Taylor would combo really well together.

Like I think Trey Smith would look like a dominant monster if he played for Detroit but he's in an offense that is nothing like that.

That's what I'm hoping becomes of a Kingsley + Taylor combo on the right side.

One would think Kingsley will be a better pass blocker than run blocker as a guard. That might help us to better handle Taylor's spacing.