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BWillie 01-09-2025 11:59 AM

Anyone know if Dip and Dots will be back this year?

Mecca 01-09-2025 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17899330)
Anyone know if Dip and Dots will be back this year?

The ice cream of the future...that wasn't

siberian khatru 01-10-2025 11:41 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jac Caglianone will big league camp this spring ahead of his first full pro season, and he&#39;ll focus only on hitting as he gets his career started -- because that&#39;s his fastest track to Kansas City.<br><br>And the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> top prospect can&#39;t wait to get going: <a href="https://t.co/fNXnX7CqQx">https://t.co/fNXnX7CqQx</a></p>&mdash; Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) <a href="https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1877766439727210843?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Spoiler!

Ocotillo 01-10-2025 11:43 AM

Baseball America believes Ramon Ramirez is a Royals breakout prospect to watch in 2025.

Ramon Ramirez, C

Preseason Rank: 11
BA Grade/Risk: 50/High

Track Record: Ramirez was already a known prospect before his first official game in the states and his 2024 season in the Arizona Complex League went a long way in proving the early hype was on point. The native Venezuelan hit .265/.379/.459 with seven home runs in 170 at-bats with lots of hard contact.

Scouting Report: Ramirez has excellent adjustability and barrel accuracy with an efficient swing and the bat speed to handle velocity. He projects to hit for both average and power. With more experience he’ll learn to avoid chasing pitches early and go deeper in the count to be able to get pitches he can drive. Questions remain on his defense, but Ramirez is still relatively new to catching. He has a plus arm but lacks accuracy now. He receives well with soft hands, but with occasional mental lapses behind the dish, although the intense heat in what is often called the Fire League is a tough development environment for catchers. With a strong, burly body, there will be the usual concerns about his size and the ability to remain behind the plate, but he has a good awareness of his body and how to maintain it.

The Future: If Ramirez continues the growth of his skills behind the plate to go with showing he can handle more advanced pitching, he’ll likely be a top ten prospect in the Royals organization before long. He’ll get his chance in 2025 at Low-A Columbia.

Scouting Grades: HIT: 50. POW: 55. RUN: 40. FLD: 50. ARM: 60.

Mecca 01-10-2025 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17900646)
Baseball America believes Ramon Ramirez is a Royals breakout prospect to watch in 2025.

Ramon Ramirez, C

Preseason Rank: 11
BA Grade/Risk: 50/High

Track Record: Ramirez was already a known prospect before his first official game in the states and his 2024 season in the Arizona Complex League went a long way in proving the early hype was on point. The native Venezuelan hit .265/.379/.459 with seven home runs in 170 at-bats with lots of hard contact.

Scouting Report: Ramirez has excellent adjustability and barrel accuracy with an efficient swing and the bat speed to handle velocity. He projects to hit for both average and power. With more experience he’ll learn to avoid chasing pitches early and go deeper in the count to be able to get pitches he can drive. Questions remain on his defense, but Ramirez is still relatively new to catching. He has a plus arm but lacks accuracy now. He receives well with soft hands, but with occasional mental lapses behind the dish, although the intense heat in what is often called the Fire League is a tough development environment for catchers. With a strong, burly body, there will be the usual concerns about his size and the ability to remain behind the plate, but he has a good awareness of his body and how to maintain it.

The Future: If Ramirez continues the growth of his skills behind the plate to go with showing he can handle more advanced pitching, he’ll likely be a top ten prospect in the Royals organization before long. He’ll get his chance in 2025 at Low-A Columbia.

Scouting Grades: HIT: 50. POW: 55. RUN: 40. FLD: 50. ARM: 60.

All these prospects that are catchers they are gonna have to pick and hope they get it right because if you can move one before they fail they will have good trade value.

Ocotillo 01-10-2025 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17900645)
The Royals are inviting Caglianone, the No. 6 selection in the 2024 MLB Draft, to big league camp ahead of his first full professional season.

I hope he does as well as Witt did in 2021 spring training.

Deberg_1990 01-11-2025 09:22 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;The clubhouse was incredible... the coaching staff does a great job too, allowing me to work through some stuff and try to get better each and every day.&quot;<br><br>RHP Michael Lorenzen details why he re-signed with the <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> after being traded there last summer. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MLBTonight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MLBTonight</a> <a href="https://t.co/pp68oPHJTL">pic.twitter.com/pp68oPHJTL</a></p>&mdash; MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork/status/1877874218118902181?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 11, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 01-13-2025 10:52 AM

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Steven Zobac scouting report

BWillie 01-13-2025 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17901725)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;The clubhouse was incredible... the coaching staff does a great job too, allowing me to work through some stuff and try to get better each and every day.&quot;<br><br>RHP Michael Lorenzen details why he re-signed with the <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a> after being traded there last summer. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MLBTonight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MLBTonight</a> <a href="https://t.co/pp68oPHJTL">pic.twitter.com/pp68oPHJTL</a></p>&mdash; MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork/status/1877874218118902181?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 11, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Make this guy play OF/two ways. Has a .710 ops when he had to hit. Would avg 25 to 30 hrs a year and a cannon out of RF.

Ocotillo 01-13-2025 02:05 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Based on Roki Sasaki&#39;s known meetings, here&#39;s who appears to be in and out of the sweepstakes according to all the latest reports:<br><br>In: Dodgers, Padres, Cubs, Blue Jays, Rangers<br><br>Out: Giants, Yankees, Mets<br><br>Sasaki has until Jan. 23 to sign with an MLB team. <a href="https://t.co/cIDdGtpeQL">pic.twitter.com/cIDdGtpeQL</a></p>&mdash; Noah Camras (@noahcamras) <a href="https://twitter.com/noahcamras/status/1878892548586168404?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

PHOG 01-13-2025 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17908652)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Based on Roki Sasaki&#39;s known meetings, here&#39;s who appears to be in and out of the sweepstakes according to all the latest reports:<br><br>In: Dodgers, Padres, Cubs, Blue Jays, Rangers<br><br>Out: Giants, Yankees, Mets<br><br>Sasaki has until Jan. 23 to sign with an MLB team. <a href="https://t.co/cIDdGtpeQL">pic.twitter.com/cIDdGtpeQL</a></p>&mdash; Noah Camras (@noahcamras) <a href="https://twitter.com/noahcamras/status/1878892548586168404?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Never in: :Royals: Royals

poolboy 01-13-2025 02:25 PM

**** the Dodgers! tired of them sucking down players....we need the Dodger Rules

Ocotillo 01-13-2025 03:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Roki Sasaki has informed Rangers he will be signing elsewhere, per person familiar with process.</p>&mdash; Evan Grant (@Evan_P_Grant) <a href="https://twitter.com/Evan_P_Grant/status/1878910817611186617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dlphg9 01-13-2025 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17908407)
Make this guy play OF/two ways. Has a .710 ops when he had to hit. Would avg 25 to 30 hrs a year and a cannon out of RF.

Yeah, no thanks. He has 2 ABs over the last 5 years. No way he'd even have a >.600 OPS.

dlphg9 01-13-2025 03:58 PM

I wonder if KC even reached out

SithCeNtZ 01-13-2025 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17908807)
I wonder if KC even reached out

All teams got a meeting with a set amount of time with him to make their pitch(no pun intended), so the Royals definitely talked to him. Unfortunately it looks like he is looking for teams with Japanese players he knows or cities with a large Japanese contingent and KC doesn't rank highly in either category.

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-13-2025 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 17908949)
All teams got a meeting with a set amount of time with him to make their pitch(no pun intended), so the Royals definitely talked to him. Unfortunately it looks like he is looking for teams with Japanese players he knows or cities with a large Japanese contingent and KC doesn't rank highly in either category.

Did JJ not take him to Gojo's?

duncan_idaho 01-13-2025 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 17908949)
All teams got a meeting with a set amount of time with him to make their pitch(no pun intended), so the Royals definitely talked to him. Unfortunately it looks like he is looking for teams with Japanese players he knows or cities with a large Japanese contingent and KC doesn't rank highly in either category.

The ability to get a direct flight to his home country is probably a factor.

poolboy 01-13-2025 06:25 PM

just like his big brother Sho hey

poolboy 01-13-2025 06:26 PM

where does all the Dodger money come from?

Ocotillo 01-13-2025 06:56 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The finalists for Japanese star right-hander Roki Sasaki are the Los Angeles Dodgers, San Diego Padres and Toronto Blue Jays, sources tell ESPN. Sasaki will decide on his team by the closing of his posting window Jan. 23.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1878938716590510523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 01-13-2025 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17909013)
where does all the Dodger money come from?

Their TV deal alone is worth 330 million a season, in 2022 they had estimated total revenue of 581 million. Also give them credit for having a really high end front office that starts well and spends money on worthy players.

That's why they are so tough, they have the front office and the funds.

AndChiefs 01-13-2025 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17909075)
Their TV deal alone is worth 330 million a season, in 2022 they had estimated total revenue of 581 million. Also give them credit for having a really high end front office that starts well and spends money on worthy players.

That's why they are so tough, they have the front office and the funds.

Not hard to spend well when you just buy every star player you can. Not a high miss rate there. I would also have signed ohtani or Betts, that doesn’t make me a front office genius. And the deferred payments thing to get around luxury tax is BS.

ChiefsCountry 01-13-2025 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17909013)
where does all the Dodger money come from?

Big tv deal.
Close to 4 million in attendance with about 50k per game. Just do the math at $100 per ticket to keep it simple.

Ocotillo 01-13-2025 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17900645)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jac Caglianone will big league camp this spring ahead of his first full pro season, and he&#39;ll focus only on hitting as he gets his career started -- because that&#39;s his fastest track to Kansas City.<br><br>And the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> top prospect can&#39;t wait to get going: <a href="https://t.co/fNXnX7CqQx">https://t.co/fNXnX7CqQx</a></p>&mdash; Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) <a href="https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1877766439727210843?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I just realized that Caglianone went to Plant High School in Tampa. That is arguably the nation's greatest baseball factory as it has produced Wade Boggs, Kyle Tucker and Pete Alonso.

KC_Connection 01-13-2025 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17909050)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The finalists for Japanese star right-hander Roki Sasaki are the Los Angeles Dodgers, San Diego Padres and Toronto Blue Jays, sources tell ESPN. Sasaki will decide on his team by the closing of his posting window Jan. 23.</p>&mdash; Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1878938716590510523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Only the true baseball power franchises get to be finalists for Sasaki

BWillie 01-13-2025 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17900645)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jac Caglianone will big league camp this spring ahead of his first full pro season, and he&#39;ll focus only on hitting as he gets his career started -- because that&#39;s his fastest track to Kansas City.<br><br>And the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> top prospect can&#39;t wait to get going: <a href="https://t.co/fNXnX7CqQx">https://t.co/fNXnX7CqQx</a></p>&mdash; Anne Rogers (@anne__rogers) <a href="https://twitter.com/anne__rogers/status/1877766439727210843?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 10, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Spoiler!

Jac Caglianone is going into the Royals Hall of Fame someday. Mark my words.

Ocotillo 01-15-2025 10:30 AM

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Yandel Ricardo scouting report

dlphg9 01-15-2025 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17911431)
Yandel Ricardo scouting report

It'd be nice to hit on one of these international guys. Haven't done that in a long ass time.

SithCeNtZ 01-15-2025 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17911523)
It'd be nice to hit on one of these international guys. Haven't done that in a long ass time.

They need to show progress on player development this year period. All of the minor league guys that matter seemed to do fine and stay at expectations or fell off. Nobody greatly increased their stock. Cags is the only consensus top 100 prospect we have. We can't keep just hoping our first round pick comes through and throw away everyone else, which is basically what you could have done for the past several years. The system needs to start producing to extend our playoff window.

Ocotillo 01-17-2025 10:25 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kansas City Royals today signed Dominican shortstop Ramcell Medina for $950,000.<br><br>Scouting reports on the Royals’ 2025 class: <a href="https://t.co/yehvPp5XNh">https://t.co/yehvPp5XNh</a> <a href="https://t.co/Cag5kloHm1">pic.twitter.com/Cag5kloHm1</a></p>&mdash; Ben Badler (@BenBadler) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenBadler/status/1880288214579298342?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ocotillo 01-17-2025 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17909910)
Only the true baseball power franchises get to be finalists for Sasaki

They're being aggressive in their pursuit. They took on over $10 million of Miles Straw's dead money contract to potentially pay Sasaki more.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OFFICIAL: We’ve acquired OF Myles Straw, cash, and international bonus signing pool space for the 2025 period from the Guardians in exchange for a player to be named later or cash. <br><br>Straw won the Gold Glove Award in 2022. <a href="https://t.co/QdhqH8b6ON">pic.twitter.com/QdhqH8b6ON</a></p>&mdash; Toronto Blue Jays (@BlueJays) <a href="https://twitter.com/BlueJays/status/1880291658459410890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cleveland is covering $3.75 million of the remaining $15.5 million owed to Myles Straw, source tells me &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/ShiDavidi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ShiDavidi</a>.<br><br>Also worth noting: Straw&#39;s money counts towards the Blue Jays&#39; CBT calculations regardless of whether he&#39;s on their 40-man.</p>&mdash; Ben Nicholson-Smith (@bnicholsonsmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/1880298158389170548?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC_Connection 01-17-2025 11:24 AM

Hard to imagine you take on Myles Straw and his contract (who is effectively just a minor leaguer at this point) unless you think you're getting Roki Sasaki.

But Jays fans have been burned before in these types of pursuits, so we wait.

KC_Connection 01-17-2025 05:39 PM

And that's why it pays to never have any hope (unless you're a Chiefs fan). No clue what the Jays' FO was doing making that trade today.

Deberg_1990 01-17-2025 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17913988)
Hard to imagine you take on Myles Straw and his contract (who is effectively just a minor leaguer at this point) unless you think you're getting Roki Sasaki.

But Jays fans have been burned before in these types of pursuits, so we wait.

Ouch

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking: Roki Sasaki has signed with the Los Angeles Dodgers, he announced on social media. <a href="https://t.co/9kGkK5sVRy">pic.twitter.com/9kGkK5sVRy</a></p>&mdash; ESPN (@espn) <a href="https://twitter.com/espn/status/1880394162714865920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

poolboy 01-17-2025 06:19 PM

I like it...prototypical Royals move..speed out the ass

KC_Connection 01-17-2025 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17914498)
Ouch

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking: Roki Sasaki has signed with the Los Angeles Dodgers, he announced on social media. <a href="https://t.co/9kGkK5sVRy">pic.twitter.com/9kGkK5sVRy</a></p>&mdash; ESPN (@espn) <a href="https://twitter.com/espn/status/1880394162714865920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ouch for all of baseball really. There's no way this all doesn't end in another lockout before long.

Deberg_1990 01-17-2025 06:37 PM

Congrats in advance to the 2025 Dodgers World Series title!

KC_Connection 01-17-2025 06:39 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;There were several front offices that believed there was a pre-cut deal between the Dodgers and Roki Sasaki.&quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/JimBowdenGM?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JimBowdenGM</a> thinks multiple teams will ask MLB to investigate Roki Sasaki signing with the Dodgers. <a href="https://t.co/VlBouBXgfZ">pic.twitter.com/VlBouBXgfZ</a></p>&mdash; Foul Territory (@FoulTerritoryTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/FoulTerritoryTV/status/1880407758094372926?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 18, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Corruption in baseball by the Dodgers? Hard to believe.

PHOG 01-17-2025 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17914511)
Congrats in advance to the 2025 Dodgers World Series title!

Gasp! You wouldn't be insinuating that baseball might be corrupt? Maybe corrupt is too strong of a word, let's see, maybe "Less than fair"?

Ocotillo 01-18-2025 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17914538)
Gasp! You wouldn't be insinuating that baseball might be corrupt? Maybe corrupt is too strong of a word, let's see, maybe "Less than fair"?

Owners proposed the international draft in the last CBA, but the players balked. The Dominican contingent believed the international draft would have impacted the existence of buscones, these guys in the DR who train amateur players and give them some financial assistance. The buscones take about a quarter of the players' signing bonus in exchange and represent the players in conversations with scouts.

RedinTexas 01-18-2025 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17914538)
Gasp! You wouldn't be insinuating that baseball might be corrupt? Maybe corrupt is too strong of a word, let's see, maybe "Less than fair"?

I'll say it. The teams in the biggest cities have an unfair advantage and MLB doesn't mind because they love the playoffs being in the biggest cities. It's collusion whether it's an outright agreement or just a wink and a nod. Either way, they're losing the rest of the country because the rest of the country stops caring when their teams don't really stand a chance.

If you love baseball, enjoy it while it lasts, because it won't.

arrowheadnation 01-20-2025 11:36 AM

Damn. Santander signed with the Blue Jays. Was hoping we could get him. Merrifield reunion coming?

Coach 01-20-2025 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 17925284)
Damn. Santander signed with the Blue Jays. Was hoping we could get him. Merrifield reunion coming?

No. That ****er burned many bridges on his way out, the front office better not even remotely entertain that idea. He's replacement level, so I'd rather give someone in Triple A the opportunity instead.

tk13 01-21-2025 12:22 AM

Santander would have been nice but I wasn't sure about breaking the bank for him because he's 30 and this contract year was his biggest HR year. Signing him until 35-36 is a risk but he does have power.

Believe it or not his career OPS is not that far away from Hunter Renfroe. And you could argue Renfroe has been more consistent because he's been in that 25-30 HR range a bunch of times but never anything close to the 44 Santander just had. But he is a couple years older.

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-21-2025 08:28 AM

Dodgers signed two of the three guys I wanted in FA. Blake Treinen and Teoscar Hernandez. Let's see if they get the hat trick or another team in all of baseball gets a shot at one of the good ones. Come on Tanner Scott! Go to one of the other 29 teams!!!

Why Not? 01-21-2025 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 17926605)
Dodgers signed two of the three guys I wanted in FA. Blake Treinen and Teoscar Hernandez. Let's see if they get the hat trick or another team in all of baseball gets a shot at one of the good ones. Come on Tanner Scott! Go to one of the other 29 teams!!!

Um, guessing you didn’t follow much baseball news yesterday?

Ocotillo 01-21-2025 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 17926619)
Um, guessing you didn’t follow much baseball news yesterday?

Just this morning, the Dodgers added Kirby Yates, who had 33 saves and a 1.17 ERA for the Rangers last year.

Ocotillo 01-21-2025 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17926507)
Santander would have been nice but I wasn't sure about breaking the bank for him because he's 30 and this contract year was his biggest HR year. Signing him until 35-36 is a risk but he does have power.

Believe it or not his career OPS is not that far away from Hunter Renfroe. And you could argue Renfroe has been more consistent because he's been in that 25-30 HR range a bunch of times but never anything close to the 44 Santander just had. But he is a couple years older.

Santander's power carries his profile since he doesn't walk or hit for average.

Blue Jays executives Ross Atkins and Mark Shapiro are fighting to keep their jobs, so they're throwing money at a flawed team in a loaded division.

Ocotillo 01-21-2025 11:36 AM

Homegrown Royal Carlos Beltran is up to 81.2% on the Hall of Fame ballot tracker.

He's going to be on the borderline tonight when the official results are released.

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-21-2025 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 17926619)
Um, guessing you didn’t follow much baseball news yesterday?

**** you Tanner Scott.

ChiefsCountry 01-21-2025 05:43 PM

The baseball writers must have micropenises with the envy they have when it comes to voting for the HOF.

KC_Connection 01-21-2025 06:00 PM

So Beltran almost got in and will surely get in next year.

Can someone explain the rationale for voting for a guy who cheated to win a World Series in comparison to Barry Bonds (arguably the greatest baseball player of all time who fell off the ballot because the same writers voting for Beltran deemed his character to be too poor to be a HOFer)?

Just a ridiculous system.

Why Not? 01-21-2025 09:48 PM

ROFL
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 17926980)
**** you Tanner Scott.


Ocotillo 01-21-2025 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17927447)
So Beltran almost got in and will surely get in next year.

Can someone explain the rationale for voting for a guy who cheated to win a World Series in comparison to Barry Bonds (arguably the greatest baseball player of all time who fell off the ballot because the same writers voting for Beltran deemed his character to be too poor to be a HOFer)?

Just a ridiculous system.

Your answer is that society views different types of cheating on separate scales. Drastically altering one's body composition through chemical means is high on or at the top of the list. There's a reason why WADA and track and field gives an automatic two-year ban for doping.

I do think the Astros went beyond just gamesmanship where they're using technology and AI to decode signs. It's much more flagrant than using a corked bat or throwing a screwball.

KC_Connection 01-21-2025 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17927723)
Your answer is that society views different types of cheating on separate scales. Drastically altering one's body composition through chemical means is high on or at the top of the list. There's a reason why WADA and track and field gives an automatic two-year ban for doping.

I do think the Astros went beyond just gamesmanship where they're using technology and AI to decode signs. It's much more flagrant than using a corked bat or throwing a screwball.

The Astros literally had a coach set up watching a video feed feeding them pitch calls which they proceeded to communicate to the hitters at the plate for an entire season. I’d argue that’s a far more severe form of cheating than simply doing what a large portion of the league was already doing in the 90s/00s (which wasn’t actually against any MLB rule and which they didn’t even test for until 20 years ago).

And if any of these writers actually cared that much about doping, they’d never have let David Ortiz in either.

Ocotillo 01-21-2025 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17927730)
The Astros literally had a coach set up watching a video feed feeding them pitch calls which they proceeded to communicate to the hitters at the plate for an entire season. I’d argue that’s a far more severe form of cheating than simply doing what a large portion of the league was already doing in the 90s/00s (which wasn’t actually against any MLB rule and which they didn’t even test for until 20 years ago).

And if any of these writers actually cared that much about doping, they’d never have let David Ortiz in either.

The players knew it was wrong. Even if Fay Vincent's 1991 memo had no teeth to it, it was against the law.

Donald Fehr and the MLBPA were vehemently against testing anyway, so it had no chance to be included in a CBA. Fehr cried privacy concerns. Fehr only relented to testing when the players were shamed publicly.

Mecca 01-22-2025 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17927723)
Your answer is that society views different types of cheating on separate scales. Drastically altering one's body composition through chemical means is high on or at the top of the list. There's a reason why WADA and track and field gives an automatic two-year ban for doping.

I do think the Astros went beyond just gamesmanship where they're using technology and AI to decode signs. It's much more flagrant than using a corked bat or throwing a screwball.

Just like all these NFL guys aren't roided out..

Ocotillo 01-22-2025 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17927738)
Just like all these NFL guys aren't roided out..

Julius Peppers is in the Pro Football HOF.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/columns/pasq...n/1460692.html

tk13 01-22-2025 08:25 PM

This might be worse than some of the lists that put Mahomes at 4th or 5th or wherever.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A historic season in Kansas City that ended with an AL MVP podium finish!<br><br>Superstar Bobby Witt Jr. is The Shredder&#39;s #4 shortstop on the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Top10RightNow?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Top10RightNow</a> ahead of the 2025 season. <a href="https://t.co/ujlbSX7yGq">pic.twitter.com/ujlbSX7yGq</a></p>&mdash; MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork/status/1882240333066711476?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

siberian khatru 01-22-2025 08:32 PM

I assume by The Shredder, that means they put all the names into a shredder and then just randomly grab whatever comes out.

arrowheadnation 01-22-2025 08:37 PM

Bulletin board material. Top 2 or 3 player in the sport, but 4th best at his position because....reasons. The math is not mathing.

poolboy 01-22-2025 08:40 PM

god I hate the media

PHOG 01-22-2025 08:51 PM

Just put that BS in the shredder where it belongs.

Ocotillo 01-22-2025 08:53 PM

The Shredder is a computer that rates the players.

I wouldn't get too worked up about it.

The two human beings that hosted the show had Witt at No. 1.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are BK and DeRo&#39;s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Top10RightNow?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Top10RightNow</a> lists at shortstop �� <a href="https://t.co/8cRw5lxqY6">pic.twitter.com/8cRw5lxqY6</a></p>&mdash; MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork/status/1882254677430906933?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

PHOG 01-22-2025 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17929030)
The Shredder is a computer that rates the players.

I wouldn't get too worked up about it.

The two human beings that hosted the show had Witt at No. 1.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are BK and DeRo&#39;s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Top10RightNow?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Top10RightNow</a> lists at shortstop �� <a href="https://t.co/8cRw5lxqY6">pic.twitter.com/8cRw5lxqY6</a></p>&mdash; MLB Network (@MLBNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBNetwork/status/1882254677430906933?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Now that's more like it.

poolboy 01-23-2025 04:20 PM

Profar to the Braves

poolboy 01-23-2025 05:18 PM

Can Hunter Harvey compete for us this year? seems like after he got traded to us, he checked out with some injuries. no bp pieces in FA

Wilson8 01-23-2025 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 17930086)
Profar to the Braves

The Braves announced that they have signed free agent outfielder Jurickson Profar to a three-year, $42MM deal. The MVP Sports Group client will make $12MM this year and then $15MM in each of the next two seasons. Robert Murray of FanSided reported earlier that the two sides were in agreement. Atlanta designated right-hander Connor Gillispie in a corresponding move.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/...on-profar.html

dlphg9 01-23-2025 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 17930163)
The Braves announced that they have signed free agent outfielder Jurickson Profar to a three-year, $42MM deal. The MVP Sports Group client will make $12MM this year and then $15MM in each of the next two seasons. Robert Murray of FanSided reported earlier that the two sides were in agreement. Atlanta designated right-hander Connor Gillispie in a corresponding move.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/...on-profar.html

That's an overpay for him. He's probably gonna revert back go his usual shitty self now.

Coach 01-23-2025 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 17930163)
The Braves announced that they have signed free agent outfielder Jurickson Profar to a three-year, $42MM deal. The MVP Sports Group client will make $12MM this year and then $15MM in each of the next two seasons. Robert Murray of FanSided reported earlier that the two sides were in agreement. Atlanta designated right-hander Connor Gillispie in a corresponding move.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/...on-profar.html

I think that's a good move that the Royals didn't make. This screams "overpay" for a guy who just had a career year last year. Aside for 2022 and this past year, his WAR was never more than 2.0 in a season.

Thank goodness.

Coach 01-23-2025 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17927431)
The baseball writers must have micropenises with the envy they have when it comes to voting for the HOF.

I just have a hard time understanding whoever that 1 writer that left off Suzuki. I mean, what was the basis of that?

RockChalk 01-24-2025 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 17930202)
I just have a hard time understanding whoever that 1 writer that left off Suzuki. I mean, what was the basis of that?

I say this in jest, but also with some amount of it being realistic...it's probably some hardened old-school guy who still can't forgive Japan for Pearl Harbor. It's either that (prejudice) or it was a completely accidental omission.

To me, those are the only two logical possibilities. Ichiro checks every single box you could have to be in the HOF.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-24-2025 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 17930202)
I just have a hard time understanding whoever that 1 writer that left off Suzuki. I mean, what was the basis of that?

NY writer who wants to maintain that Mariano is the ONLY unanimous player ever elected.

I'm just speculating, obviously, but would this really surprise anyone?

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-24-2025 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17930756)
NY writer who wants to maintain that Mariano is the ONLY unanimous player ever elected.

I'm just speculating, obviously, but would this really surprise anyone?

He should have his voting privileges rescinded.

Ocotillo 01-24-2025 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17930756)
NY writer who wants to maintain that Mariano is the ONLY unanimous player ever elected.

I'm just speculating, obviously, but would this really surprise anyone?

It could be that.

It could also be a small Hall voter that voted for Alex Rodriguez and Manny Ramirez and nobody else.

The Hall of Fame revealed there were no blank ballots turned in this year.

Ocotillo 01-24-2025 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 17930798)
He should have his voting privileges rescinded.

You believe in groupthink?

60 career WAR, 107 career OPS+, .757 career OPS

Ichiro was slam dunk but he wasn't a Willie Mays or Henry Aaron. 99.7% on over 400 votes is pretty ****ing amazing in itself. How hard is it to get that many people to agree on one thing?

BWillie 01-24-2025 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17927723)
Your answer is that society views different types of cheating on separate scales. Drastically altering one's body composition through chemical means is high on or at the top of the list. There's a reason why WADA and track and field gives an automatic two-year ban for doping.

I do think the Astros went beyond just gamesmanship where they're using technology and AI to decode signs. It's much more flagrant than using a corked bat or throwing a screwball.

To me, I think doing what the Astros did is DRASTICALLY worse than a guy taking steroids or HGH. Not even close.

Ocotillo 01-24-2025 12:17 PM

MLB is testing the automated ball strike zone and ball/strike challenging system during spring training.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How many games will your team play in front of the automated strike zone? Full list, and many other details of what awaits as MLB tests out the robo umps: <a href="https://t.co/cW79GRqgtF">https://t.co/cW79GRqgtF</a> <a href="https://t.co/mGWFaoodfe">pic.twitter.com/mGWFaoodfe</a></p>&mdash; Evan Drellich (@EvanDrellich) <a href="https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/1882827400452657568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TomBarndtsTwin 01-24-2025 01:07 PM

Honestly, IMO, the whole unanimous thing is stupid because to some degree its about playing politics and keeping everyone happy for different reasons. It's not about only what's done on the field, because if it was we wouldn't have guys like Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Nolan Ryan (hell, even George Brett), Ken Griffey Jr., etc. not getting 100% of the vote.

There's a group of roughly 40-50 baseball players over the history of the game that are no doubt, first ballot, elite best of the best HOFer's that no one could really make much of an argument (performance wise) for them NOT being in the Hall of Fame.

So it's CLEARLY not about making a decision based on their play on the field. And that's the way its always been, like it or hate it.


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