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The rest just feel like more of the same to me. There's a TON of depth at RB in this draft, but it feels like it's more that there's a lot of fungible talent rather than premier players. I mean there are probably a dozen guys like Devin Neal in this draft. And at that point I just kinda throw my hands up and say "ah **** it - just take someone in the 7th again I guess..." It feels like a good time to be aggressive at the position and there might just be the right piece there for us. But when you're looking at Neals and Harveys and Etiennes and (yuck) trying to talk yourself into Skattebo -- eh, that's no fun. I'm just not feelin' it. If we don't want to try to snag a great back, I guess we can just keep cycling through mediocre ones. |
Yeah I’m with ya DJ. This is not a good year to need a WR. Thankfully we have addressed that the last 2 years. FA market is terrible and so is the draft if you don’t pick high enough to get McMillan, Burder or Egbuka.
Fully on the RB train. It will drastically help us for the Kelce transition as well |
I REALLY like the idea of Judkins in our offense.
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Just started looking into DL Derrick Harmon after watching a mock on youtube.
6-5, 310 lbs, run defender that busted out as an interior pass rush guy this season: 5 sacks, 43 pressures, 17.6% pass rush win rate from the interior!!! 2nd best pass rush rating for a IDL in this draft after another guy that only played passing downs, could be available in the 2nd. Wharton replacement!? |
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I think Edwards or Neal would be alot of fun in this offense. Those aren't #1 backs but as Andy has proven you don't necessarily need that
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Matthew Golden if we are looking for another mid round wide receiver.
Fly paper hands and a knack for getting open. |
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OL Jordan Williams, Georgia Tech DE Princely Umanmielen, Ole Miss LT Charles Grant, William & Mary |
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I haven't really started ranking guys yet, but he's a top 6-8 WR in all probability and those usually run out around that 35-50 range. I don't feel like we can get him 'mid-round' -- that's going to have to be early day 2, IMO. |
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This is an awesome thread. Great work here, and its not just the big name early round talent. Love it!
I'd love to continue to add to the WR room but with team needs and what this draft class has to offer its hard do do that with your first three picks. |
So....is Donovan Jackson a LT in the NFL?
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I really like Xavier Watts. Was really impressed by that guy last night too.
He’s an excellent ball hawk back there with size and physicality. He probably goes mid 2nd rd but if he fell neat 64 I would be clenching my teeth at the thought of passing on him if I was Veach. |
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Sexy 3-Round AZ Sports Mock:https://www.profootballnetwork.com/k...raft-aug-2024/
1. TE Loveland 2. RB Johhson 3. OL Membou 3. CB Parish I lOVE those first 3 picks! |
Crow was right. This is an awesome year to get a DT. Walter Nolan looks really good but Jared Ivey might be even better.
He reminds me a lot of a younger more developed Omenihu. 6’6” 285 lbs and moves extremely well. 3.5, then 5.5 and now 7 sacks in the last 3 years. This is the kinda guy you want next to Chris Jones. Looks like this guy could be a great value at 64 or 66. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/W90IUj8BccY?si=n42pFxKPM2aeiOyb" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Yeah this is the year to get a DT
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This draft is STACKED with DT's</p>— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) <a href="https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1882129331864170574?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Xavier Watts would be a great pick
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Daniel Jeremiah’s latest mock.
32. James Pearce Jr. Edge Tennessee https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jere...mock-draft-1-0 |
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Again, LT is a headache. But there is no need to freak out over WR, DE, CB (positions that need to be addressed, but not urgent) |
Still don’t see Xavier Watts Crow. Come on buddy. This guy is a freaking stud.
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Side note - I don't know a single thing about Donovan Jackson. I just know that seemingly everyone that comes out of college these days is a right tackle or guard. Playin' the odds here... |
Man this is just not a good year to year a WR unless you’re picking in the top 20 and can get Egbuka, Burden or Golden. FA really sucks too which is why I think we need to keep Hollywood Brown.
Also not a great year to get a LT unfortunately. It’s a damn good draft to get a DL, a corner, a TE and a RB. Also very underrated at S. I think we need to check those boxes. |
Bech got Senior Bowl MVP. Man, I'd love to see that kid here but I have a feeling with the week he had he's going to shoot up boards in a soft WR class.
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WR Jordan Watkins, Ole Miss CB O'Donnell Fortune, South Carolina CB Jacob Parrish, Kansas State |
If we don't grab a CB in the first four rounds I'd love it if the Chiefs grabbed a guy like Jermari Harris out of Iowa. Yeah he's older but these Iowa DBs come in ready to contribute and the Chiefs are the perfect fit for an older rookie as we are needing to win now. If you have a low round pick invested who care if he's a one contract player for you.
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Savion Williams is one of my favorite fits for us. Goddamn is he fun. He’s like a bigger Rashee Rice that can also play in the backfield, do jet sweeps, run the wildcat or return kicks.
I want him on this team. Andy would ****ing love the kid |
Crow, what are your thoughts on the CBs from KU?
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I'm slowly circling around Benjamin Morrison, CD -- ND as a guy I think I'm going to be really high on if he's still there when our pick comes up.
He just might be. It's gonna be close -- him or Revel will still be there, IMO. This doesn't feel like a '5 CBs in the first round' sort of draft. And if Morrison is there, he has a really nice combination of speed, size and aggression. He's not as strong as you'd like him to be; by no means is he Snead out there. But I think in time he will add functional strength. He has the chops for the press-man stuff we like to do. He's a smart player so he shouldn't struggle with zones or matchup looks. If one of the edge players I really like (Scourton seems to be my favorite on the possibilities list at the moment) isn't there, I could pretty easily pivot to Morrison and be content. |
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Yeah, that's partially because I still see Hunter as a bit gimmicky. |
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For our system, Jahdae Barron is the top dog IMO. |
Mentioned him as in my mock yesterday and DJ mentioned him today. Go ahead and add Trey Amos.
Really good corner. Big fan of his and love his fit here |
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A guy I really like is O'Donnell Fortune from South Carolina. Might be one to keep an eye on. |
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They just took a liiiiiiitle too long to find their footing (and Mizzou still should've beaten 'em...) Those losses to LSU and 'Bama were both tight losses in games they could've won. Win either of those and they're in the playoffs. And if they make the playoffs, they weren't gonna win it (didn't have the QB play) but they could've done a little damage. Getting their asses kicked at home by Ole Miss was really their only bad loss of the season. Otherwise, they were pretty damn good and just didn't hit anyone's radar until about week 12. |
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Yeah - QB play killed 'em.
Which, honestly, is a little inexcusable in the transfer portal era. That tells me they simply didn't know what they had. And hey -- they kinda sucked last year so that's maybe to be expected. But with that much NFL talent on the defensive side of the ball as well as a good RB, it's hard to think they shouldn't have been much more aggressive in the transfer portal. Just doesn't feel like Kyle McCord would've been beyond their reach. Sam Leavitt certainly shouldn't have been. Will Rogers entered the portal and then stayed - make a push there. Just feels a bit like their success sneaked up on 'em a bit. |
Mike Green has 2 Sexual Assault chargers pending? That’s gonna affect his draft stock for certain.
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I don't really think he's a fit here anyway.
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If he falls to our #66 pick, then I’d consider it as long as he get’s counseling. I’d buy him a female kitten also to help rehabilitate him lol. |
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Nolan has some character flags as well. |
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Man. RJ Harvey.
I want this kid. He runs downfield routes like a WR. He can do everything. |
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Andy'd have a lot of fun with this kid. He's also really smart. He's got the gigabytes. |
Added some dudes in here today... I can't remember who lol.
Amos, Black at CB, Helm at TE, Paul and James at LB, and Brosmer at QB IIRC. |
This kid would rule in Spags system. Very athletic. Very smart. Good in coverage.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not seeing enough Chris Paul Jr hype. LB2 imo <a href="https://t.co/JjtIuGNqXW">pic.twitter.com/JjtIuGNqXW</a></p>— James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoFlagsFilm/status/1879657080195613133?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Issue is that he's a pure Will -- I don't see any world where he be a 3-down Mike and certainly not a Sam. I'm not giving a 1st or 2nd rounder for a Will. They're too easy to find (Tranquill was all but free to acquire - we just overpaid to retain him). Most of the time I end up passing on him with that Titans pick and end up going RB then he's gone before my late 3rd. But I've taken him a few times when he's still there with that pick at the back of 3. Realistically, he should be the Mike in a 3-4 alongside a more physical Ted backer. Especially if you're going to run a more old-school 2-gap sort of system. He's a bit of a tough fit in a 4-3. |
Rather than say "Hey Crow -- all that work you do to make your list? Why don't you do more to make it easier for me to read?" I figured I'd go ahead and do it and you're welcome to just copy/paste in the OP if you want to.
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Good idear DJ
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Jordan Phillips defensive tackle Maryland
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Mello Dotson ran slow. 4.6 40.
Won’t help his stock. |
Crow I’m hopping on the Jalen Royals bandwagon. Love his fit for us. His size and speed made him even more appealing
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Crow great call on Hampton whew that dude looks like he's going to be a problem
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If he does though, he’s almost certainly going to be the BPA. |
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Today's adds:
LB Demetrius Knight, South Carolina LB Smael Mondon Jr., Georgia LB Teddye Buchanan, California LB Jeffrey Bassa, Oregon SS RJ Mickens, Clemson DT JJ Pegues, Mississippi WR Elijhah Badger, Florida WR Keandre Lambert-Smith, Auburn LG Joshua Gray, Oregon State RG Tate Ratledge, Georgia LT Aireontae Ersery, Minnesota LT Kelvin Banks Jr., Texas TE Terrance Ferguson, Oregon TE CJ Dippre, Alabama |
Crow, were you surprised to see Tai Felton run a 4.37? And how much does that move the needle for you with him?
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Give me Grant, Williams, Harmon, or Collins at DT.
Give me Scourton, Kennard, or Gillotte at DE Give me Tuten or Harvey. And give me a corner in there somewhere. And that's all I need. And this lamp. |
So, Luther Burden ran a 4.42 today. Does that increase or decrease the chances of him lasting to 31? I feel that if he had touched the 4.3's, that would have made him an automatic top 15-20 pick.
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Today's adds:
RB Quinshon Judkins, Ohio State RB Montrell Johnson, Jr., Florida RB Raheim Sanders, South Carolina WR Roc Taylor, Memphis OL Joe Huber, WI OL Caleb Rogers, Texas Tech OL Jacob Bayer, Arkansas State DE Mykel Williams, Georgia DE Jordan Burch, Oregon DE Ethan Downs, Oklahoma DT Tonka Hemingway, South Carolina DT Kyonte Hamilton, Rutgers LB Shaun Dolac Buffalo CB Johnathan Edwards, Tulane FS Caleb Ransaw, Tulane Changed the layout with links to generic scouting reports to make it easier to look at. |
My personal favorites:
QB Max Brosmer, Minnesota RB Bhayshul Tuten, Virginia Tech WR Tai Felton, Maryland TE Mason Taylor, LSU OT Josh Conerly Jr, Oregon OG Tate Ratledge, Georgia DE Jack Sawyer, Ohio State DT Ty Robinson, Nebraska LB Danny Stutsman, Oklahoma CB Azareye'h Thomas, Florida State NB Jordan Hancock, OhioState DB Jonas Sanker, Virginia |
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Thanks for doing this. Great thread, awesome resource. |
If we solve LT in Free Agency, I think I like Logan Brown in the 5th-ish as a developmental tackle.
Looked like he had a good combine though, so his stock might be up a bit. |
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