Thuney while better, has not been playing to his normal standard.

Counterpoint: what loss have we sustained over the last six+ seasons that you have been OK with?

There’s always something in a loss that leaves a sour taste in your mouth.

he’s become far less curmudgeonly (as one would hope after 3 SBs) but back in the day he would write some epic soliloquies detailing how Andy Reid would never win a SB

One of my coworkers is a Bills fan and she was at the game. She was admittedly delighted with the outcome of the game. All I said was "yeah, we know how this goes. See you in the playoffs". Her demeanor immediately changed and she said "yeah, I know". 🤣

This.

Yeah he gets beat, but there was a pocket he could have stepped into. The IOL did good there, it's not usually like that, do any speed rusher is going to make the tackles look bad. It's also one play. I can find that happen to every single offensive lineman at least a few times a season.

Thanks, buddy! I know there are a few people on my side of the table on this one.

For the people saying Mahomes has been off all year...
Was he really that off while KC still had Rice?

I mean things weren't perfect because Travis was invisible early. But Rice was a machine before he went down. Hollywood would obviously have helped also.

Well no shit, Sherlock. Losing sucks

However, there are differences in the WAY the game is lost.

Players play. It's a fact. So if the players are just getting beaten, missing tackles, dropping oasses, blowing coverages, shanking kicks and punts, then you suck it up and just accept the team has to get better.

Perfect example, Superbowl 55. Pat made the throws under impossible conditions. Guys just dropped them, or worse, weren't even aware of them. We were beaten due to brickhanded brainless receivers, and a horrific lack of pass protection. The plays Andy called were there. He's not blameless, the timeout that led to a 21-6 halftime deficit instead of a 14-6 halftime deficit looms large in that game, but there was a Stark lack of ability on that field.

Now, there's the other side of the coin. When you have elements of your game that are working that you just don't use, you continue doing what has flatly failed repeatedly all game, you punt to save 15 yards of field position, you call Barnum and Bailey circus dumbshit plays that stall your possessions, those are things that happen because the man on the sideline isn't quite right that day.

Did Andy call plays relevant to what was happening in the Bills game? No.

Kareem was having success. 5 yards on first down is a massive asset. Romo alluded to it early. The guy that can turn around and hand the ball off for 5 yards on first down is likely going to win this game. Somehow, he didn't want to use it. Pass pass pass punt. 12th carry for Hunt didn't come until the 4th quarter.

Just terrible by Andy there. Instead, we're immediately behind the sticks with an o line that seems to have forgotten how to play football the past couple weeks.

So yeah, if Andy contributes to a loss, he will be criticized. I know he's kinda off limits for a lot of you. But if you think that was a good job calling offense in Buffalo, you might be on the spectrum.

You were OK with the SB LV loss?

He thinks Joe Gibbs is a better HC than Andy… and an all time top HC… completely ignoring the fact that Gibbs won two of his Super Bowls in strike-impacted seasons.

An epic dumbshit.

Shit, let him cook. Joe Gibbs won three different Super Bowls with three different QBs.

That’s insane.

How to put this in a way that the guy who thought Orlando Brown Jr was worth the bag would understand.......

Ok. The Chiefs left tackle play has been awful. Left Tackle is pretty important, it's Mahomes blind side. When there's instant pressure from the blind side, or worse, free shots to your back, that's in your mind now that this side that I can't see, isn't likely to hold up.

The play is so poor, he has to assume that it's going to fail, and be ready to salvage the play. When there's actually protection, its a surprise.

The left tackles for the Chiefs belong in a dumpster.

Kingsley is so bad that we will refer to him as a maggot infested, bloated dead cat found in the dumpster.

Wanya Morris on the other hand, is like the spoiled ham sandwich with some slightly molded cheese found in the other corner of the dumpster.

When forced to decide which you have to eat, obviously the Ham Sandwich looks infinitely better than the dead bloated cat.

It doesn't mean the moldy ham sandwich is good, or that you make the spoiled ham sandwich a permanent addition to your daily diet.

You're eating it to survive, but you desperately want something that's not garbage.

Two in strike impacted seasons… a not so insignificant detail.

Anyone who thinks Joe Gibbs > Andy is an epic life fail like ass clown Wallflower.

Your vagina still bleeding about someone putting a head coach that won 3 superbowls with 3 different qbs above your hero?

Haha.

Nice.

Two of those Joe Gibbs Super Bowls in strike ravaged seasons.

You still can’t admit that Andy Reid is the best HC in NFL history.

Cope harder.

Cope harder? I'm not the one desperately shouting about strikes.

Look at the losses your hero amassed in winnable games on the biggest stage in games he was favored to win.

Got to start a HALF of playoff football with a 28 point lead and managed to lose it.

Best HC in history indeed.

Remind us again how many postseason wins for Vince Lombardi and Bill Walsh without having a HOF QB?

Remind us again about how you don't understand the concept of being favored to win.

Nice non-answer.

Favored. (FAY-VORED).

The HC’s you rank above Andy never lost in the playoffs as a favorite?

You sure about that?

LMAO

This team will look way different with Hollywood, Pacheco and Omenihu being added to it.

The offense will start kicking ass

Huh. That’s interesting.

No concern about overfeeding Hunt and not having him in the playoffs?

IF they can play. Yes. And Im not sure about the offense. It should improve some, but we're very limited with the LT situation.

All I know is that this is the best that ever was, and there's a good chance that it's the best that will ever be. I will gladly be a glassy-eyed Chiefs zombie banging my tambourine at airports in a red robe and handing out Mahomes bracelets for the next decade. Y'all can "talk football" all you want. I will exult in the greatest dynasty in football history and will mindlessly dance for the next decade.

For real though, that poor man needs a breather. I'm not saying make him a healthy inactive, but maybe mix in a game or two where he's getting less than 10 touches once Pacheco is fully ready to go.

I'm trying to stay positive and enjoy the football as a distraction. I had the Chiefs at 8-2 or even 7-3 given their starting schedule. Ravens/Bengals to start, the 49ers/Bills with the Raider/Broncos/Chargers thrown in to start the season. Other than the Raiders, there's not a lot of can-o-corns in there.

Let's enjoy this run of great Chiefs football because it can be over in an instant. This is supposed to be enjoyment and escape from the problems we face each day. Enjoy it while it lasts.

You know what's ****ing nuts? There's a very real chance the 49ers don't even make the playoffs this year. Currently at 5-5 in the midst of a dogfight in the NFC West and the Packers, Bills, and Lions all still on their schedule.

After those tasty Medieval turkey legs get munched the opposition gets crunched into the cold hard turf -Dick Allnut

Take a look at this...

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-playoff...of-2024-season

We still have an incredible chance to take that #1 seed. This ain't over! :thumb:

NFL playoff picture entering Week 12
AFC Playoff % If Win If Lose No. 1 seed %
1. Chiefs (9-1) >99% >99% >99% 61%
2. Bills (9-2) >99% Bye Bye 24%
3. Steelers (8-2) 98% 99% 96% 10%
4. Texans (7-4) 97% 99% 93% 2%
5. Chargers (7-3) 91% 97% 86% 2%
6. Ravens (7-4) 96% 99% 91% 1%
7. Broncos (6-5) 69% 77% 54% <1%

I want the 3peat bad. I mean really bad!

Everyone still loves to watch the Chiefs… win or lose.

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Bitch please.

Football players play football.

If your football player CAN'T play football in a game against your competition for the 1 seed when you have two literal layup games in a row afterward, kick that pussy off the team.

Wanna nurse his boo boos? Carolina and Vegas. Give him two weeks off.

You don't shit down your leg and drop a game to your only competition for the 1 seed because you're afraid Kareem's vagina will get bruised.

****s sake.

How is that interesting? You're actually reading what I posted in context instead of listening to the rhetoric of illiterate ****ing morons like Clay, TwistedPanties, And 88 Florida Skanks or whatever her name is when it comes to my criticisms of Andy Reid?

Interesting that Wallcrawler isn't just spewing blind hatred at Andy Reid at every opportunity?

Lol. Welcome to the real world.

Wallflower: “Bill Walsh was a better HC than Andy Reid, because he never lost as a favorite in the playoffs”.

What about when Bill Walsh’s heavily favored #1 seed 49ers were upset by an 8-7 Vikings team in the 1987 Divisional Playoffs?

Wallflower: [Silence].

More inept rhetoric from an illiterate Andy Stan.

Hey sweetheart, why don't you run along back to the thread where I ranked coaches, you know, the one you obviously hate **** yourself to daily, and post the actual reason I posted for Bill Walsh to make my list.

Until then, shut up, bitch.

So you admit that you don’t hold Bill Walsh to your same criticism of Andy?

Bill Walsh losing to the Vikings in the 1987 Divisional Round is one of the biggest chokes in NFL postseason history.

Reconcile that fact with your criticism of Andy Reid.

You're a ridiculously ****ing stupid asshole.

Lost to 6 fgs at home.

Blew a 28 point halftime lead to Andrew Luck.

Blew an 18 point lead to Marcus Mariota.

Blew an 18 point lead to Joe Burrow.

That's just the Kansas City hits. If you'd like to delve further into his Philly failures, theres plenty.

So sure, pound your bitch tits over strikes, over one upset by Walsh, or whatever else you want to conjure up.

Post it in all caps so we can really get a sense of the tears you're expending, during your emotional breakdown in which you can't handle any reality that isn't one with Andy Reid up on a pedestal.

Christ you're pathetic. Lmfgdao.

Still can’t answer question. LMAO

Why are you willing to overlook Bill Walsh’s epic chokes in the playoffs, while you hold similar ”chokes” against Andy Reid?

And Bill Walsh choked with Joe Montana as his QB.

Haha there it is, sugartits! That pesky illiteracy.

Go back, read the list you're obsessing over, and the reason is right there.

Run along.

It's. Right. There.

So the fact that Bill Walsh was an offensive innovator, gives him a pass for choking in the playoffs, in your view?

A pass you are not willing to give Andy Reid.

You just irrationally hate Andy… confirmed. LMAO

Because Andy is not ranked 1, is equal to irrational hate?

You should go ahead and pick up a blue butt plug tail to match your hair.

You'll feel a lot better.

Never change, dumbass.

The inconsistency of your rankings were exposed and now you are triggered.

Also you still refuse to answer how many playoff games Lombardi and Walsh won without a HOF QB.

Wonder why.

Until I see a postseason, where Mahomes does not play like the best player in the world, and complete alpha that he is, I'm not worried. I think people underesitmate how game changing the return of Pacheco and Hollywood will be as well. This team needs more explosion on offense and Pacheco and Hollywood bring exactly that.

Can't wait to hear the disrespect from the bitches on this board over the next two weeks.

We're going to be 11-1.

"It was just the Panthers and Raiders."

Bitch the Ravens LOST to the Raiders.

All of you go **** yourselves in advance.

YOU ARE WHAT YOUR RECORD SAYS YOU ARE

https://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogge...20Parcells.jpg

Last time this team was 11-1 we went TO THE SUPER BOWL.

The Lions have been blowing people out pretty often

All of our games have been close

same record

it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning

https://media.tenor.com/xu1lRAVTYoIA...PFgFCDFlbgQNdQ

Cowboys, Titans, and Jagwads.

Those trashing Mahomes will be exposed for the cowards and fools they are in the end.

Last year was the year to get us.

The Bills will lose a game before we do going forward. And then, everyone will start talking about the Arrowhead Invitational.

Smartest post in the thread by a very smart and well-endowed man.

ok maybe just 1/3 of the time, but still we haven't blown anyone out. All that matters is what's gonna happen in the playoffs and hopefully we'll have some players coming back.

Point differential. We talking about point differential. Seriously. Those Lamar and Josh Lombardis know point differential

We have the best record but I think many of us feel that it is a shaky 9-1...no need to panic though.

O line needs to sack up, and Mahomes, despite being faceplanted in the dirt out of nowhere, has to trust that isn't going to happen every play.

He's bailed on some clean pockets out of sheer ptsd. Rushed throws out of sheer ptsd.

Protect the quarterback, and its a wrap. Defense won't give up 30 if your offense isn't constantly going 3 or 4 and out.

I'm triggered?

Aww sweetie, you're so confused.

They say those lacking self awareness sometimes need a mirror to be made aware.

I'm not triggered in the slightest. You however, have obsessed so much about a random message board posters top 5 list of coaches that you've not only tried to hijack the thread with it, but your asshole hasn't been this raw since you got one of your Planet of the Apes action figures stuck in it sideways.

Imagine the drool that has to be drained from your keyboard trying to discredit Gibbs and Walsh, just to get a message board rando to change their top 5 list.

Haha it's ****ing hilarious.

Also, since you're slow, I'm not engaging in your dumbass questions because they're all asked and answered in whatever other thread you and the other mouth breathers were obsessing and screeching for my top 5 list in.

If you were too stupid to grasp it then, and you've rocked a perfect net zero of IQ points gained in the time since, then the only thing I have to gain by rehashing the topic with you is a few chuckles at your stupidity, which I've already gotten.

Let it go. It's just a list. Its not going to change no matter how much you shriek, or with each shade of blue your hair becomes.

It's called a disagreement. These are common. You seem ill equipped to handle it, so I'd see a therapist before it turns into a debilitating phobia for you.

Mostly I was shocked that you would be OK with losing SB LV.

Should go without saying that I wasn't happy with the loss.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you already knew I don't like seeing losses. Surprise me. Don't make me regret it.

In terms of did Andy shit his pants and cause us to lose, or did we get beat by a superior effort and nothing that Andy called would matter, Andy being aggressive on 3rd and 2, calling timeout at end of half down 14-6, which surprised and motivated the Bucs to try to score, ending with us down 21-6 at half, cannot be overlooked.

It was horrible, vintage Andy Reid pant shitting in situational football. You have to understand your o line is garbage, your offense hasn't done anything and despite that, you're being gifted a possession you don't have to defend, down only 8, and you get the ball to start third.

But the reason we were at that point, dropped touchdowns, dropped passes in the hands of star players, and an o line absolutely getting destroyed up front.

Punter shank for 27 yards, just bad football.

Got to their 30 what 6 times? No tds. 3fgs.

The players, more specificly the pass catchers and offensive line were the reason this game was lost.

Even if we come out down just 8, the only effort being made to win the game offensively came from Patrick Mahomes playing his guts out, and his guys let him down in every single possible way.

Andy put us in a worse spot at half. But the offense showed up without its skill set. That's why they lost.

Bumping this thread to show what a whiny ****ing baby he is. LMAO

Tap out accepted.

Get help for your irrational Andy Reid-hatred.

Nobody whining here, assclown.

Why would you need to bump a thread that was literally replied to mere seconds beforehand?

Craving attention that badly?

Sure, I will concede that I am shocked by your reasoning.

In truth, I wasn’t speaking on the overall thread or any of your past issues with Reid’s coaching. I simply read your qualifier about how “It’s not that we lost, but how”.

A lot of posters here say that but, in my experience, the board melts down after literally any loss lol

I suppose I thought you were one of those who always melt down but I was proven wrong.

I looked back at the last 8 Super Bowl winners and of those 8, the Chiefs last season scored the least amount of total points and the lowest ppg. Which of course includes some teams only playing three games, still scoring more than we did last season in four games.

Point being, we are incredibly unlikely to win again like we did last season. We will need to be more effective the entire game than we have been so far this season. Mahomes still doesn’t have a passing TD in the first quarter. Also we will probably need 30 points to win a game at some point as the defense isn’t quite as good.

The offense can be better though with Pacheco and Brown, and a more integrated Hopkins. But ultimately it’s going to come down to protection and Mahomes playing a bit better than he is right now.

It’s okay to point out the flaws and weaknesses of the Team while recognizing your team is STILL the best team in the NFL.

This is not a TrueFan only space, sorry. :rolleyes:

sack up

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Have you not met Claynus?

Imagine being able to read, and comprehend my full reply to you, and in any way find that to be a tapout.

That's hilarious.

Never change, retread.

BTW, and it's just purely because I can't help myself, you are aware that your hero's offense is based on the scheme that Bill Walsh created, yes?

Heh. Rhetorical question, dipshit. I know you know, and it eats your little chapped ass up lmmfgdao.

Commence the shriek and squee.

You are not a Doomer. You’re nowhere near a doomer and I think pretty much everything you listed is worth atleast discussing.

There are people in the game day threads though that absolutely go off the rails in my honest opinion. If your takeaway from this year so far is Mahomes has always just been a system QB then I didn’t know what to say (and yes I have seen that in the losers, cowards and traitors) thread before

I do think it’s worth pointing out that our offense always seems to lack productivity for the past 2 years. Like at least in terms of red zone efficiency and putting games away. Yet we always seem to do enough to win push comes to shove.

I don’t have an answer for the Corner issue. I really would have liked a trade but it seems the price was just too high for the trade. It’s definitely an issue tho

Andy is my favorite coach of all time and I still think his Andyisms cost him games.

But I do not know why some people seem to take it so personally that Reid certainly has had big Flaws in the past. I feel if he didn’t he would have easily given the Eagles their first SB.

Not that there’s anyone I would want right now over Andy as a full disclaimer. I think Andy’s “Andyisms” have actually decreased quite a bit the more SBs he’s won

I do think you guys should be nicer to each other. There’s no need for it to be so hostile lol

Andy is not “flawed” for leading the Eagles to four straight NFC Championship Games and a Super Bowl appearance… it is actually a testament to his coaching greatness by achieving that with a non HOF-caliber QB in McNabb.

You know who didn’t win even a single playoff game without having a HOF QB?

Vince Lombardi.

Bill Walsh.

Veach thought Orlando Brown Jr was worth the bag, you dumb piece of shit.

Wanya Morris is an average LT in the league. That's perfectly fine when you have the highest paid C, one of the highest paid guards, one of the highest paid RTs, and a guy that is gonna be one of the highest paid guards. Creed and Thuney have been pretty good on the season, but Trey Smith hasn't been even close to good lately and had a ****ing 27 pass block rating from PFF. I'm not a PFF guy, but that is bad no matter how you slice it.

You're an idiot and clearly can't evaluate OL play. I don't even know what to say to your stupid ass anymore.

From the looks of Wallcrawler's posts in this thread it looks like he's back on the meth and pissed off about something. We can only hope he doesn't have a dog to kick and he's not being violent towards his family either.

That’s not a bad point. Andy is definitely Elite. You’ll get no argument from me there.

He still should have won a SB with the eagles though I think. But he didn’t and now he has three. 🙃

What a stupid ****.

If you believe physically lashing out at others over topics as trivial as football is a thing, then id worry more about myself than anyone else if I were you, you weak willed little dumbass.

There's actually nothing that brings a bigger smile to my face than reading your absolute shit takes on the sport.

I think my favorite shit take of yours recently, aside from Wanya Morris being a good LT, was when you advocated for abandoning the run against Denver when the o line couldn't keep Patrick Mahomes upright past 1 second.

It's hilarious, and you can fall back on your same shitty material, oh you're on drugs, oh you must beat your wife, say all that shit that you want. It won't change anything.

I guess I can't really blame you. I mean if I woke up each morning and saw you looking back at me in the mirror, I'd probably lose my fingertip grip on reality and plunge into an abyss of irreversible stupidity as well.

It's good that you have an outlet, it's just really unfortunate that the outlet is CP.

We have become greedy bastards. Spoiled bastards. We have pushed the horrible memories of the losing and playoff gut wrenching losses to back of our minds and never want them to resurface. The minute the team looks ordinary we get angry. I don't like myself for it. We should all be massively happy but the very thought of not getting the ring yet again this season makes us mad. We suck.

If he's as great as you say he is, he would have sealed the deal at some point.

But yeah, John Fox and that absolute big swinging dick LEGEND, Jake Mother ****ing Delhomme, I mean what the hell was I thinking.

Of course Andy couldn't overcome a stud qb on the other side like Jake Delhomme.

**** out of here. Lmao.

Pics or GTFO ;)

Losing to Carolina in the NFC Championship Game (who went on to almost beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl, losing 32-29), is not as bad as your beloved Bill Wash choking to an 8-7 Vikings team in the Divisional Round… against freaking Wade Wilson.

Bill Walsh’s #1 seeded 49ers team lost at home with Joe Montana at QB to an 8-7 Vikings team with Wade Wilson at QB.

Yikes. LMAO