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wazu 10-22-2024 03:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Highest % of routes that are horizontally-breaking or underneath<br>[WRs, per <a href="https://twitter.com/FantasyPtsData?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FantasyPtsData</a>]<br><br> 1. Chris Godwin (67.3%)<br>2. Cooper Kupp (66.1%)<br>3. Josh Downs (65.9%)<br>4. Rashee Rice (64.5%)<br>5. Amon-Ra St. Brown (63.8%)<br>....<br>7. Jalen McMillan (59.0%) ��<br>8. JuJu Smith-Schuster (58.9%)</p>&mdash; Ryan Heath (@RyanJ_Heath) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanJ_Heath/status/1848753435354566941?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Megatron96 10-22-2024 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17759154)
The original topic line was why 1sts are all that important when you’re going for a 3peat.

Not against trading our 1st round pick but it better goddamn get us somebody who will play for a little longer than the time Kupp has left in this league



Yah, I can agree with that. Though, I've never been as risk-averse about draft picks as most. Not as reckless as the Rams have been in the recent past, but somewhere in the middle I guess.


For the threepeat I'd be willing to gamble a little more than usual. Even trading our 1st isn't outside the lines in my book. But like you say, for the right guy, and Kupp isn't the right guy, imo.

dlphg9 10-22-2024 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod (Post 17759045)
DRob for a 6th is fine, thanks.

I'd trade them Skyy Moore for DRob, but no way would I give up a draft pick. DeMarcus is absolute ass.

jjchieffan 10-22-2024 04:01 PM

Skyy Moore was a second round pick. Think that they would trade straight up? Lol

wazu 10-22-2024 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17759167)
I'd trade them Skyy Moore for DRob, but no way would I give up a draft pick. DeMarcus is absolute ass.

Nobody wants Skyy Moore. Not even if he was free and came with an extra roster spot. Like a handful of other receivers, he is only employable by the Chiefs.

Megatron96 10-22-2024 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17759167)
I'd trade them Skyy Moore for DRob, but no way would I give up a draft pick. DeMarcus is absolute ass.



DRob has basically the same stat lines as Worthy. And to date he's outplayed all of our other 'WRs.' In fact, you could take JJSS'/Hardman's stats and combine them, and DRob has 1 more yd and the same number of TDs.


So what you're saying is JJSS/Hardman are absolute ass.

pete_the_cat 10-22-2024 04:56 PM

2nd round pick is basically Skyy Moore or the shit LT (Sumo?) we took this year…

I would do it in a heartbeat

Veach just needs volume to draft with.. he don’t need no stinking 2nd rounder

lcarus 10-22-2024 04:56 PM

If the Chiefs got Kupp, and if he could manage to stay healthy for the season, it would probably be over for the rest of the league.

ChiefaRoo 10-22-2024 04:58 PM

Dwight Freeney might kill himself if that happened and they 3 peated.. oh no!!! Anyways.

lcarus 10-22-2024 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pete_the_cat (Post 17759233)
2nd round pick is basically Skyy Moore or the shit LT (Sumo?) we took this year…

I would do it in a heartbeat

Veach just needs volume to draft with.. he don’t need no stinking 2nd rounder

A 2nd is also Rashee Rice, Chris Jones, Nick Bolton, Creed Humphrey, Willie Gay. Heck guys like Travis Kelce, Kareem Hunt, L'Jarius Sneed, Tyreek Hill, Justin Houston were taken after the 2nd round. So there is another side to that coin.

I'm not saying they shouldn't trade picks for proven veterans. Especially when we desperately need someone at WR. Just that picks can turn out to be great players too. And they're cheap for a few seasons.

RaidersOftheCellar 10-22-2024 05:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨BREAKING: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are the strong Vegas favorites to trade for star wide receiver Cooper Kupp.<br><br>👀👀👀<br><br>Kupp is available and KC has the draft capital and need for him.<br><br>Reid. Mahomes. Kelce. Kupp. Would be DYNAMIC. <a href="https://t.co/62mQJnvH3J">pic.twitter.com/62mQJnvH3J</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1848830360416932284?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Couch-Potato 10-22-2024 05:05 PM

Stafford to the Vikes?!? Darnold’s lookin sharp lately but Stafford’s proven. Crazy.

Cooper? Sure. Is he healthy now, at least? Can we get away with offering our 3rd, that could become the TEN 3rd or our 2nd depending on his playtime the rest of the year? Mix Sky Moore in there and a late pick swap, maybe Robinson too if they’re game? Kupp, when/if healthy, would be an absolute monster in KC. Kupp, Rice, Brown, & Worthy as next year’s WR core is very very solid.

Megatron96 10-22-2024 05:07 PM

I would really like to know how LV sets the odds for these things, because they are rarely correct, at least when it comes to KC it seems. But I just saw some article where LV has KC as +200 to acquire Kupp at the moment.

Personally, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Bl00dyBizkitz 10-22-2024 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17759248)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">🚨BREAKING: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are the strong Vegas favorites to trade for star wide receiver Cooper Kupp.<br><br>👀👀👀<br><br>Kupp is available and KC has the draft capital and need for him.<br><br>Reid. Mahomes. Kelce. Kupp. Would be DYNAMIC. <a href="https://t.co/62mQJnvH3J">pic.twitter.com/62mQJnvH3J</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1848830360416932284?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MLFootball is awful. Deserves a spot in the 7th ring of hell

Dante84 10-22-2024 05:14 PM

Yeah that’s a click bait aggregator.

There are some good ones who share actual rumors and news, and then there are ones that do that plus make shit up.

chiefzilla1501 10-22-2024 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17759091)
Not arguing, but I just don't understand why it's an either or situation. If Veach screws up the cap for the next couple season, why does that mean we can't see 6/7/8 SBs down the road? It would just be delaying the inevitable a couple three season, imo, not eliminating them entirely forever.


YMMV.

I don’t understand the panic either.

Regardless of whether we spend or don’t spend we’re due for a reset in a few years. Not a rebuild, just 1 season where you clean up your cap, gut some of your vets and stockpile draft picks. I think people are scared because teams like buffalo and the chargers did this for years and years and years. The chiefs on the other hand have been relatively passive for a contender. It’s not going to break us to make a big move or 2.

ForeverIowan 10-22-2024 05:16 PM

If we traded for Kupp, 3-peat, and then head into 2025 season with Rice, Kupp and Worthy...lol...just freaking wreck the rest of the league.

staylor26 10-22-2024 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17759268)
Yeah that’s a click bait aggregator.

There are some good ones who share actual rumors and news, and then there are ones that do that plus make shit up.

Sure but are they incorrect here? I wouldn't be surprised to see the Chiefs are the betting favorites.

New World Order 10-22-2024 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17759275)
If we traded for Kupp, 3-peat, and then head into 2025 season with Rice, Kupp and Worthy...lol...just freaking wreck the rest of the league.

Don’t forget Myles Garrett

chiefzilla1501 10-22-2024 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17759002)
I would've been 100% on board a few seasons ago. But McVay has been overusing him for years now, which is why he has those injury issues. I mean, in his last full season, Kupp was targeted nearly 200 times, fcs. Of course, Andy wouldn't target him anywhere near 15+ times a game, but the damage appears to have been done at this point.


Bottom line, there's a lot of potential reward in acquiring Kupp, but there's also a ton of risk.

I lean that way too. But I also feel like he was horribly mismanaged. The rams couldn’t wait to bring him in and abuse him as soon as he was even remotely healthy. Because they rely on him so much. We’ve seen with our history with Toney and Watkins that we don’t work that way. I do really wonder if what he needs is just a team that can moderate his usage. Give him a true recovery timeline. Because the thing about kupp is, if he stays healthy, he has the kind of skill set that can easily be effective into his 30s because his talent isnt from raw athletic talent.

Megatron96 10-22-2024 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17759272)
I don’t understand the panic either.

Regardless of whether we spend or don’t spend we’re due for a reset in a few years. Not a rebuild, just 1 season where you clean up your cap, gut some of your vets and stockpile draft picks. I think people are scared because teams like buffalo and the chargers did this for years and years and years. The chiefs on the other hand have been relatively passive for a contender. It’s not going to break us to make a big move or 2.



Yah, pretty much. And some of our vets are going to retire/leave anyway in the next two-three years, like Travis/CJ etc. Several of those salaries are coming off the books sooner rather than later, no? Meanwhile, the cap is going to go up. What seems like a lot of $$$ right now is going to be league average in just a few years.

BigRedChief 10-22-2024 05:30 PM

I’d give them the titans 2nd. That should outbid everyone. We need help badly. I don’t want to lose a 3peat due to not giving up that 2nd.

Sassy Squatch 10-22-2024 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17759292)
I’d give them the titans 2nd. That should outbid everyone. We need help badly. I don’t want to lose a 3peat due to not giving up that 2nd.

For Kupp?!?

Cheater5 10-22-2024 05:32 PM

I grow more convinced by the day we don’t sign a big name WR before the deadline (barring another significant injury). In fact, if anything, they might sign someone from the other side of the ball.

Just my completely unscientific, wild ass assumption.

Sassy Squatch 10-22-2024 05:32 PM

5 ankle injuries in 2 years is well past the point of pencilling someone in as injury prone. It would make absolutely no sense to give up anything of value for Cooper Kupp. Make a move for Johnson, Slayton, or Kirk.

Megatron96 10-22-2024 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17759293)
For Kupp?!?



I don't believe we have TEN 2nd. We have their 3rd. I think he meant their 3rd.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-22-2024 05:38 PM

So deal for another WR to put on IR ROFL

tredadda 10-22-2024 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mescalito345 (Post 17758965)
But isn't 2024-25 much more important than 2026 or 2027?

Yes, but not so much that you make stupid decisions about the future. You can care about this year and make moves to support it without jeopardizing the future.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 10-22-2024 05:58 PM

I'd take Tutu Atwell over Kupp any day of the week and we're definitely not getting him.

EPodolak 10-22-2024 05:59 PM

Is Kupp a Buccaneer yet?

MahomesMagic 10-22-2024 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 17759319)
I'd take Tutu Atwell over Kupp any day of the week and we're definitely not getting him.

Why would we want little Tutu?

Megatron96 10-22-2024 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17759328)
Why would we want little Tutu?



So Worthy can have a teammate he can look in the eye?:shrug:

tredadda 10-22-2024 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17759280)
Don’t forget Myles Garrett

Put him in the slot and watch him dominate.

Couch-Potato 10-22-2024 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17759333)
Put him in the slot and watch him dominate.

4 TE sets.

TEX 10-22-2024 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17759300)
So deal for another WR to put on IR ROFL

Exactly. No thanks.

Red Dawg 10-22-2024 06:57 PM

He's washed and expensive and old. He'll no.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-22-2024 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 17759319)
I'd take Tutu Atwell over Kupp any day of the week and we're definitely not getting him.

Why? He's a JAG. Tutu isn't anything better than what's on the roster. Kupp is but he's broke alot lately

BossChief 10-22-2024 08:14 PM

The ONLY way it would make sense is if LA eats half the $ and is willing to accept a conditional pick based on availability.

A 4th that can top out as the titans third if CK is able to stay healthy through the playoffs.

BlackOp 10-22-2024 08:19 PM

Watching football for a few decades...some players are just injury prone. Not everyone's body is designed to withstand the abuse.

Sammy Watkins is a prime example...if a guy has had 5 ankle injuries, that's a hard pass unless the compensation in minimal....or contingent on playing time.

The Rams wouldnt be willing to offload a former all-pro WR if he were reliable.

Have there been any progress updates on Brown...if he's not going to return then rolling the dice might be necessary.

Chiefs Pantalones 10-22-2024 08:29 PM

No

T-post Tom 10-22-2024 08:33 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Asked if he or his representatives have had conversations with the Rams about trade rumors, Cooper Kupp said, “Nothing really. It’s that time of the year, there’s going to be rumors and things that go around. I let that stuff as much as I can be in the background.” <a href="https://t.co/YsWEoSylFk">https://t.co/YsWEoSylFk</a></p>&mdash; Adam Grosbard (@AdamGrosbard) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamGrosbard/status/1848885785552163214?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BigRedChief 10-22-2024 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17759297)
I don't believe we have TEN 2nd. We have their 3rd. I think he meant their 3rd.

Yes, sorry. Meant 3rd.

Demonpenz 10-22-2024 10:38 PM

Too old

4th and Long 10-22-2024 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 17759553)
Too old

He's 4 years younger than Kelce.

TEX 10-22-2024 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4th and Long (Post 17759556)
He's 4 years younger than Kelce.

But many more miles

Bump 10-23-2024 12:14 AM

it would be better to trade for someone else

he hasn't exactly been proven to be reliable. Minimum risk would be okay I guess, a 7th round pick? But I'm unsure of his contract

Tribal Warfare 10-23-2024 12:24 AM

I'll just say the absolutely delusional pipedream, Garrett Wilson has been floated on the trading block.

Pitt Gorilla 10-23-2024 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17759595)
I'll just say the absolutely delusional pipedream, Garrett Wilson has been floated on the trading block.

Reunite Wilson and Olave. Make it happen, Burt.

Red Dawg 10-23-2024 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4th and Long (Post 17759556)
He's 4 years younger than Kelce.

Jones, Kelce and Mahomes are immune from Andys 30 club. Nobody else is.

Imon Yourside 10-23-2024 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17759300)
So deal for another WR to put on IR ROFL

Hey our IR could kick anyones ass

chiefzilla1501 10-23-2024 05:19 AM

Now that we’re probably out of the kupp game I’d still love for the guy to get out of LA because that is an abusive relationship. He is not only being overused, he’s being abused. I read that in the opening game against Detroit not only did he get 21 targets, they ran him 400 yards on presnap motions alone.

What team in their right mind takes s big $ guy with a history of injuries on does this on opening day? I do wonder if he can hold up on way less overuse.

siberian khatru 10-23-2024 05:41 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Rams and the the Chiefs discussed Cooper Kupp, but the Super Bowl champs needed to trade with a team that was willing to take on a large chunk of the salary and didn’t want to give up high picks. Tennessee is the team willing to play ball.</p>&mdash; Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1849048648006381753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cheater5 10-23-2024 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 17759295)
I grow more convinced by the day we don’t sign a big name WR before the deadline (barring another significant injury). In fact, if anything, they might sign someone from the other side of the ball.

Just my completely unscientific, wild ass assumption.



I could’ve been more wrong — but I’m not sure how. I think the only reason they signed Hopkins is because BV reads CP for hot takes, and mine greatly angered him.

Gary Cooper 10-23-2024 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17759579)
But many more miles

Does he? He's played a lot less than Kelce. More injuries obviously.

No reason to make this trade with Hopkins already acquired, unless the Rams give the Chiefs some ridiculous price Veach cannot refuse.

Mosbonian 10-23-2024 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17759712)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Rams and the the Chiefs discussed Cooper Kupp, but the Super Bowl champs needed to trade with a team that was willing to take on a large chunk of the salary and didn’t want to give up high picks. Tennessee is the team willing to play ball.</p>&mdash; Dianna Russini (@DMRussini) <a href="https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1849048648006381753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Rams probably thought we would be desperate and give in to their demands for too much compensation and taking the salary off their books.

Everyone wants to bend over the reigning SB Champs when discussing a trade.

Good thing GMBV is smarter than any of the other GM's.

Couch-Potato 10-23-2024 07:48 AM

So… M Garrett next then?

notorious 10-23-2024 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17759925)
So… M Garrett next then?

Shocked he's not practicing in KC now tbh

Gary Cooper 10-23-2024 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17759933)
Shocked he's not practicing in KC now tbh

If we get Myles Garrett, we don't need WRs. Just need to score 14 to win each game.

notorious 10-23-2024 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17759935)
If we get Myles Garrett, we don't need WRs. Just need to score 14 to win each game.

7 safeties? LFG!

TEX 10-23-2024 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17759889)
Does he? He's played a lot less than Kelce. More injuries obviously.

No reason to make this trade with Hopkins already acquired, unless the Rams give the Chiefs some ridiculous price Veach cannot refuse.

Yes. Absolutely more miles. Injuries do that to players.

Dunerdr 10-23-2024 10:47 AM

If we got Garrett I’d literally cum buckets.

BlackHelicopters 10-23-2024 11:02 AM

Fully erect.

mr. tegu 10-23-2024 11:55 AM

Cooper Kupp reportedly on the trade block
 
Apparently there’s talk about the Rams trying to trade Stafford.


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