I’m hella lost, I’m sorry. Please don’t yell at me

Rickey saying the 49ers aren't getting a 1st rounder back. Also said the Steelers did offer one before the draft. Pretty bad fumble by the 49ers.

That's Pretty Rickey dude, get with it.

I'm kind of shocked that this looks like it's actually going to happen. I just assumed that since the 49ers window is clearly closing, there was no chance they'd trade their WR1.

Miners sb hangover starting

Guessing Tomlin wants to trade for Aiyuk because they are secretly related LMAO

Teams have to lie all the time for the fans. No NE fan is excited about anything with the Pats. They will be getting a top ten pick next year. They are Bronco bad and probably worse with that dipshit HC.

Trent Williams threw a massive wrench into their plans by holding out and threatening to retire if they didn't bump his pay and guarantees up. That's my hypothesis

There's probably some truth to that, they're not going to be very good in a couple of years.

May be the only one here but I think the Steelers are an 11 win team with Aiyuk

Good possibility that changed things.

So you buy into Russ or Fields then?

They've been routinely making the playoffs with Kenny ****ing Pickett. It's not a stretch at all to assume that.

Over how many years?

Won 9 games in 2022 and 10 last year in the hardest division in football with bottom of the barrel QB play.

The Steelers have one of the best rosters in the league. Elite defense (6th in points allowed last year) despite no offense to help them and they finally addressed their struggling OL in back-to-back years with Broderick Jones, Troy Fautanu and Zach Frazier.

Russ is many things, but he is consistent. He had a good year statistically considering his coach hated him, he wasn’t a fit for that scheme and his surrounding talent sucked balls. Also think Arthur Smith’s Ryan Tannehill Titans system will be good for Russ.

This would probably be the best supporting cast Russ has had since the SB debacle season, especially on offense.

But Arthur Smith is a bum...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: The Steelers have a verbal agreement in place with the 49ers for Brandon Aiyuk. All the terms of the deal and contract details are being hammered out now. The WR is coming to Pittsburgh. <a href="https://t.co/LdueV9dSNT">pic.twitter.com/LdueV9dSNT</a></p>&mdash; Andrew Fillipponi (@ThePoniExpress) <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePoniExpress/status/1821218731348959621?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pretty Rickey haters right now...

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Rickey is so hilarious in this. There’s people hating on him calling him a bum then there’s people getting on the “real” insiders demanding they acknowledge Rickey out scoops them.

I saw a post where he said he’s just a few months shy of presidential eligibility so relatively young. Makes me think maybe a former player? I know people have suggested he’s in the league office but not sure how that position would get a bunch of early rumors.

Doubtful a league exec or team front office guy would risk his job leaking trades.

Probably a former player.

I played golf with some rando the other the day and I asked him who his team was and he was afraid to say it. I said is it New England? He sheepishly says yeah, but think you all are converting me. I said "we don't want you"

Ohhhhh how the mighty have fallen.

Yeah teams are finally starting to learn you don't give up a bunch of draft capital for the right to pay someone top of the market.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I understand there have been a lot of conflicting reports about this entire saga, but no one is more plugged in to the Steelers than <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePoniExpress?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ThePoniExpress</a>, so if he says Aiyuk is going to Pittsburgh... Aiyuk is going to Pittsburgh. <a href="https://t.co/Ixxe8yVJvC">https://t.co/Ixxe8yVJvC</a></p>&mdash; nick wright (@getnickwright) <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1821229644047380800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damn, Aiyuk, you're an idiot. Just flushed your career right down the toilet.

They need the troubled Pittsburgh WR to erode Purdy's grasp of control

Well dude wants bank.

How so? Maybe his priority right now is financial security for life.

Let's not pretend Pittsburgh is some historically shit organization. He's going to a well-run franchise and getting paid to do it. While his team quality is taking a major step down for 2024, who knows what lies ahead.

Not sure how this move for him equates to flushing his career down the toilet.

Wait till he figures out the extra $$$ won't make his QB better. Like Davante. ANd after a couple of seasons of mediocre production, and people start forgetting about him, when no one thinks of him as a top 15 WR, I'll bet the $$$ won't be as good to him then.

Honestly, wish Higgins had the balls to do this to the Bengals. They tagged him with zero intention of extending him. He's a one year rental, and he should treat them accordingly.

His QB is going to be either Russell Wilson or Justin Fields. Basically, two of the worst starting QBs in the league, and neither may actually be a starting-caliber QB at this time.

Do you think DaVante wants to give his money back?

Also SF isn't going to remain a powerhouse team forever, they are at the end of their run.

LMAO Good Grief, this perception that the Steelers are a bunch of hapless scrubs is baffling to me.

They've been in consistent contention for the playoffs even with bottom 5 QB play and an absolutely abysmal OC. They've significantly upgraded at both positions this off-season (far more of an indictment on how rotten Pickett and Canada were to be fair)

I'm not 100% sure on this because I know nothing of Aiyuks background but Higgins didn't exactly have the best upbringing so he probably just views it as he needs the money, he also just had a down year.

You aren't wrong there. But that's his QB for this year. Surely that organization will seek to get better in 2025 and acquiring Aiyuk is a start.

The fact that he agreed to go to Pit would mean to me that he's about to sign a pretty massive deal, which was his #1 priority

Unfortunately they got a guy we both liked in Jermaine Burton and he looks good. I think he will be a good player for them

As awful as Arthur Smith was in Atlanta, he was actually a pretty damn good OC for the Titans. 4th in scoring and 2nd in yards. Tannehill had by far the best years of his career under him.

Well that was before his fantasy football terrorist days where he seemed to enjoy pissing off reporters more than winning games.

Front office ****ed him pretty badly by completely failing to address QB

Matt Ryan
Marcus Mariota
Desmond Ridder
Taylor Heinecke

Fields and Wilson both are better than that grab bag of C Dif Shit

He wouldn't even give the ball to Bijan Robinson...

"Surely"? I don't know. They've struck out on QBs since Ben retired. And it's not like it's a given that they'll find a franchise QB any time soon. And next season's crop of college QBs aren't being hailed at all from what I've read. I mean, it Took KC what, 50 years?

They didn't even try until 18. They hadn't taken a 1st or 2nd round QB for 30 years.

The first year they tried they nailed it...

Well, we do know that Davante wasn't happy about his QBs last season. And in that "Receiver" show he even said out loud several times that he needed to get out of there.

I find it hard to believe the notoriously cheap Rooney family, who rarely dishes out second contracts to its players, is willing to go out of its way to give up draft capital AND pay a wide receiver $30 million per.

That's laughably overblown. Robinson had 214 attempts. The highest in the whole league was Derrick Henry at 280.

In fact they annually trade away WR's because they aren't willing to pay at the position.

Yeah, it did raise an eyebrow...

Aiyuk is striking while the iron appears hottest for him. There’s obviously no guarantee he has another really good year and stays injury free, but also this might be a possible indicator that he doesn’t think Purdy is all that good and that it’s a little risky to somewhat rely on him for his big pay day.

SF apparently offered him around $24M/yr, no? Don't remember if they posted the length of contract, but $24M is a lot of $$$. And the reality is that Aiyuk is not a top-3 or top-5 WR, so $30M shouldn't even be on the table.

This might just be the whole thing though. Maybe he found out that right now, before the season, he could be worth that to a team that basically isn’t paying QBs now or in the near future, but still is in need of a playmaker, and also has basically no other options. In the Steelers case, are they even paying a QB this season? I guess something for Fields but nothing for Wilson.

Eh. He was on a team that made it to the SB twice in 5 years, and if Purdy didn't get injured at the beginning of that game vs. PHI, maybe it would've been 3 times.


Very little chance of that in PIT. And historically, when WRs at his level join teams with bad QBs, they kind of disappear after a couple seasons because their production just drops off, and they're playing for a team that doesn't go deep into the playoffs, so they're just less visible.

I mean, as a player I like Aiyuk; I think he's pretty good. But I don't see PIT helping his career, just his wallet. We'll see, and I hope he thrives there, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

And you miss the part where most players mainly care about the money.

Aiyuk to the Steelers?
 

I’m not really arguing at all that he will have better stats or career there. But from his perspective it’s entirely possible he will make far more money the next five years by pushing his way out right now.

Oh, I'm aware. There's always a few players that buck that trend, but the vast majority go the $$, I get it. But he was part of a team that was semi-regularly getting to the SB. If he goes to PIT, he'll be a part of a team that, doesn't. With a QB (or QBs) that can't get him the ball the way he was getting it in SF, that's all I'm saying.

If it works out for him, kudos. But history isn't really in his favor.

Meh. It's short-sighted thinking, imo. But like I said, if it works out for him, congrats. If it doesn't, well, I won't be surprised, that's all.

It really is that simple most the time.

I remember when JJ Watt even went to the highest bidder in Arizona at the end of his career.

Could’ve taken a cheap deal to win a ring after accomplishing everything else in his career. The money still mattered more.

Even $1m difference is a lot of money.

Yup. And I don’t blame them.

Sure, as a fan, I’d like to think winning is most important.

In reality though, I’m for sale at all times. Someone wants to pay me more somewhere else? Where do I sign?

I’ve sent Billay feet pics on the cheap.

Flashbacks....

now compare redzone touches

JuJu Smith-Schuster
Chase Claypool
Diontae Johnson
james washington
emmanuel sanders
antonio brown
sammie coates
dri archer

Steelers absolutely love to draft day 2 wide receivers and not give them a second contract.

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LMAO

I have to admit to wondering wtf was different about him. I kinda' think the guy is overrated to be honest.

Is this just the new GM making a point he's gonna' do things differently?

The 'career' of any football player who isn't a quarterback is essentially little more than the pursuit of a 2nd contract.

It's not the end of his career - it's the culmination of it.

If the guy gets $50 million guaranteed he's MADE his career. He most assuredly hasn't torpedoed it.

Again fellas - its their job. It's a hobby for us but it's a vocation for them.

This is something of a no-brainer for him. And frankly, his style of play will be revered in Pittsburgh. He's a physical, aggressive player that the fans of Pittsburgh will fall in love with immediately.

Things are gonna be just fine for Aiyuk.

Though looking at the list they made the right call. Not sure who would have warranted a huge contract from them. Brown-hard to give that head case a big deal. Claypool was a bust. I liked Juju but he did not warrant a big deal.

Remember all the debate on whether SF would pay Aiyuk and who was more valuable to the team him or Deebo?

Yea those were good times.

What exactly about any of this do you think settles that?

It's really simple. The 49ers are starting to run out of wiggle room with the cap, and they have their LT and only OL worth a shit holding out on top of Aiyuk demanding to be paid or traded. Aiyuk is playing hardball here, and forcing their hand.

Your side lost that debate before it ever happened because Aiyuk has been their WR1 the last 2 years and that's why he's about to get paid like one. Deebo is a hybrid WR/RB WR2, and a really good one, but the best WRs are the ones that can run routes and separate.

Wait - this is a real debate?

Aiyuk is CLEARLY a better WR than Deebo.

Now maybe the 49ers find Deebo to be a more critical 'weapon' give his versatility. But in a vacuum (and on most NFL rosters) I'd take Aiyuk over Deebo 100 times out of 100.

This really may be little more than a timing issue. If we sign Creed and then in 2 years can't afford Karlaftis, it isn't a demonstration that we preferred Creed to Karlaftis. It's just that we had a guy who came up for a new deal that we wanted to keep so we did. And we hoped things would work out in 2 years with the other guy...then they didn't.

This stuff is often a lot simpler than we make it.

Yes, Virus is so ****ing clueless that he thought I was out of my mind for this take. He went as far as to say nobody else on this board or and FO executive would agree with me.

Then on of course I showed him a poll of executives, coaches, and scouts that had Aiyuk higher LMAO

His argument? The 49ers record with/without Deebo.

Deebo has only had two seasons with over 1,000 combined yards. Sure a lot of that is due to injuries, but injuries are basically a part of what you expect from him at this point. The 49ers do a good job of force feeding him the ball in creative ways, but ultimately that’s what it is. It’s mostly not him just in the normal flow of a play. This is why you look at his game logs and it’s very up and down week to week, ask it is almost entirely dependent on if he breaks a big one or two plays in a game.

When we do that with Hardman "he's a worthless gadget player who can only get yards when you design a play to get him the football..."

When the 49ers do that with Deebo he's better than Aiyuk and an elite offensive weapon.

I am...puzzled.

Do gadget yards count or not, fellas?

Would you rather have Deebo or Aiuyuk on this team?

That's what I thought.

IF I could ensure Deebo never got hurt I might lean his way. Andy Reid could draw up some reeruned shit for him.

And this is why some teams never make the playoffs. :evil:

Probably I'd take Deebo; he's so versatile, whereas Aiyuk is more of a traditional X/outside receiver. I just think Andy really leans towards players that are more multiple.


Just FYI: CBSSports, PFN, and PFF all ranked Aiyuk several spots higher than Deebo in their 'best WRs of 2024.' Not that I necessarily agree with exactly where they ranked them among the top 20 or so WRs, but between each other every single one ranked Aiyuk higher than Deebo.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan finally speak up about the Aiyuk situation <a href="https://t.co/hX49XenuHR">pic.twitter.com/hX49XenuHR</a></p>&mdash; Corey Smith (@KoRnDoGG408) <a href="https://twitter.com/KoRnDoGG408/status/1821033781383589930?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ROFL

They could have got a 1 before the draft. Idiots played hardball and lost.

I think I'd take Deebo, but only because he'd fill a role that no one else on the team could fill. He's like +++ prime Mecole Hardman.

I'd rather have Deebo, because we already have Aiyuk (Rice)

I hope to one day find myself to be in a position where I can turn down a 4 year 132million dollar contract.

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