Maxx Crosby is the most over rated player in the NFL. **** him. & **** the Raiders

Kelce had some huge blocks in the Superbowl. It is just funny that metric they decided was more important than being healthy and having your star diminished constantly from blocking most the game.

I have to say that between him and Dak they both have done less with more than almost anyone else in the league.

This. No one thinks Dak is that good, including the Cowboys which is why he remains unsigned past this year. He's not even overrated by his own team which is impressive in a league where the Trevor Lawrences of the world are getting $55 milly or whatnot.

This isn’t a fair comparison given the timeline. Dak was drafted in 2016 so he already got his second contract (the one that Lawrence just got).

If Dak was drafted the same year as Lawrence, he’d be re-signed for a similar max contract too.

Dak is extremely overrated, but then again that's a tradition for Cowboys QBs going back generations, including Aikman and Staubach.

Probably Rodgers this year, but I hope for his sake I'm wrong.

Gives ya a very eerie feeling just to think about for sure lol...

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I really wouldn’t consider what’s happened with Josh Allen choking.

In 2020, they just weren’t ready yet.

In 2021 he played as well as a QB could realistically be expected to in a loss. 13 seconds was a legendary collapse by his defense.

In 2023 he got his team into field goal range and also dropped a dime to Diggs on a deep ball that would have changed the game. Diggs just dropped it and the kicker missed.

2022 against the Bengals was the closest to choking I’d consider.

After looking at the "Trevor Lawrence Gets Paid" thread, I'm going to say Trevor Lawrence.

Is losing to a better team really choking? I don't think so.

After watching Mike Pennel ragdoll Trent Williams in the Super Bowl, I'm inclined to say that Trent Williams is overrated.

Maybe Mike Pennel is just underrated?

I’m sticking with Burrow.

The rest of these guys get plenty of criticism.

Not Joe though. He gets a pass despite being surrounded by otherworldly receiver talent even back at LSU.

To me it’s the fact that people pretend that he came into Arrowhead and outdueled Mahomes and carried the Bengals to the Super Bowl.

In reality he did Jack shit that entire game and was in the process of getting obliterated like everyone else until Lou Anarumo made adjustments and the Chiefs inexplicably forgot how to play football.

He Mr. Magoo’d his way into a complete fluke win and now people act like he’s the Mahomes killer because of it.

And that Chiefs defense wasn’t even good. The Bills shredded us the week before. Burrow was just kinda okay them.

LMAO

So was Peyton. But his defense helped carry him a couple times. Last years was LameArm’s best shot, cuz that defense was legit. But so was ours, and our quarterback has the killer instinct that LameArm lacks.

Bosa (chargers)

always thought Jalen Ramsey was overrated AF.

and Orlando Brown Jr

I'm not sure I've ever seen him play. I mostly see him in street clothes with some minor injury.

Maybe a few years ago.

I think last few years OBJ underrated. Not that's he is great but he did help the Rams win a SB recently and isn't totally washed up yet.

Just think the perception is so low that he's actually the opposite now.

Fred Warner

All MVP QBs who don’t win SBs are overrated.

Nice call. There is an argument to be made there.

Dak Prescott takes the cake here.

I think he’s probably just about the most underrated player on this roster.

Of the 7 players in the OP, Williams (age) and Kittle (media darling) have to be.

What had a bigger impact on the SB, Kelce's receiving or Kittle's blocking?

I think Jalen Hurts deserves to be mentioned here. How the hell does he not have a 4K yard season or 30 TD’s throwing to Devonta, Goedert and AJ Brown? Also had an elite OL.

Has any QB been in a better position talent wise the last 2 years? I’d honestly say Purdy might be the only one. And with Saquon now in Philly you’d think Jalen has the best supporting cast now.

He's such a weird one for me...like there's games where he commands the field, looks totally in rhythm running and throwing and you can see it but then there's games where he just looks like he couldn't give a **** less and you're wondering what they see in him.

I think the most overrated player is Austin Ekeler.

He's a really good player, but he was ranked #21 on the Top 100 last year. He's not an elite player, and may not even be a top 100 player.

I also need another season before I arrive at this conclusion, but Jalen Hurts might be the most overrated player.

After the Super Bowl he lost to Mahomes, I legit thought he was the #2 QB in the NFL. As AJ Brown increasingly sidelined himself, Hurts started showing all kinds of holes in his game.

Austin Ekeler fell off a cliff last year. Of course he's nowhere near as good as his ranking before the season, which was already a little high.

Great choice, and I completely agree he has without question the best supporting cast in football along with Purdy. I couldn't even imagine what Mahomes would do with that kind of skill around him. He had it in 2018 when he didn't even know what he was doing yet and went for 5k and 50 tuddys, couldn't even imagine what he would do with that kind of cast now.

I’d also add Joe Mixon to the discussion.

Career 4.1 yards per carry.

1 season at 4.9 yards per carry. The rest were no higher than 4.1. 3 seasons under 4 yards per carry.

That’s with all those WRs taking attention from him.

Josh Allen

Great question and in line with what I was thinking...no TE or WR is better than the QB throwing to them. Nick Mullens used Kittle as a crutch (their next best receiver was Pettis in 2018) and not surprisingly, Kittle put up big numbers. Garoppolo didn't target Kittle much and as time went on Shanahan put the clamps on Garoppolo. Purdy spreads the ball around much more, but he has too many weapons, so Kittle doesn't get near the targets that Kelce gets...and of course there is no better thrower than Mahomes

Brock Purdy. Fred Warner. Purdy looked shaky in the playoffs, despite the wins. Warner seems to be dragged downfield 4-5 yards every play.

Kittle not over-rated. He and Kelce are the top of the league in terms of skills and talents. Put Kittle on a more prolific passing team with less weapons and he would light up the league. When he's been the focus of the 49ers offense, he put up big stats.

Meh, I don't see it. I mean, did anyone ever think that Mixon was going to be one of the best RBs in the game? I'm a diehard OU fan I never felt that way about him. I always thought he could be a good starting RB, and he's been that. Not great or elite, but solid.

If you're going to claim Kittle is the best TE, then yes, he's ****ing overrated.

Bengals fans licked his taint like he was Marshall Faulk

No he wouldn't. He'd get hurt.

If this question was Last year i would have said jalen hurts. I feel like he is rated more accurately now after their struggles this past season and postseason.

This year i am going again with the QB we beat in the super bowl.

Brock purdy benefits from one of the best defenses in the league, and possibly the best set of offensive weapons we have seen together on one team in over a decade. I hate to shit on the guy, because I appreciate his story and being the last pick in the draft and all that, but him being mentioned in the top 5 QB tier is kind of a slap in the face to the other greats in the league that are doing it with less.

Runner up is joe burrow. Same general sentiment except i dont feel bad about shitting on him.

The only reason he even puts up halfway decent numbers is because he plays next to Deebo, Aiyuk, and CMC...the 9ers throw the ball plenty enough.

Put him on a team where he's the focal point like Kelce and he isn't putting up jack shit...

Look at his stats...they aren't there, I rattled them off in the OP. His skills and talents are blocking and running into empty space created by Deebo and Aiyuk.

Lamar is the modern QB equivalent of Marty Schottenheimer. Great during the regular season, but confused and lost in the playoffs.

I don't mind the Kittle love, guy is pretty good. I wouldn't trade Kelce for him, but I wouldn't expect SF fans to want to trade the other way. He did have more TD's and more yards than Kelce last year as well. But so far, Kelce still has a second gear he can switch into in the playoffs that Kittle just hasn't shown.

Allen is easily the second best QB right now. If the argument is he is 1b to Mahomes 1a then he’s overrated but I think that was more an argument going into last season. After this past season I don’t think people view him so close to Mahomes anymore.

Case in point, he helped the Rams as a role player who made a couple plays but that offense went through Kupp who was absurd that year. I don't think anyone here overvalues him, but he gets way more national attention for a guy who has been a #2 at best ever since his 3rd year with the Giants. Even his one decent year with the browns Jarvis Landry out played him.

Half of the football-watching nation says shit like, "Mahomes gets all the calls! No holding penalties in the Super Bowl??? They needed to call holding every play!!!" and I imagine a huge chunk of that mindset believes Josh Allen is actually the best QB but he's getting royally screwed by refs and/or his own GM/HC.

That shit's sadly not going to end unless Mahomes ties or breaks Brady's 7 rings.

^^This^^

You could say guys like Dak, Burrow, Herbert, Hurts are overrated too but not at the level of Lamar. I dont hear anyone claiming any of those guys are the best in the game but you hear that with Lamar after he has a good game. Not many would agree with me on this but Matt Stafford is a better QB than Lamar.

This

Herbert is pretty damn overrated...guy gets talked about perennially as one of the best QBs in the league and he's done jack shit.

Made the playoffs once and blew a 27-0 lead. Always folds when the game is on the line or under pressure, can't lead his team for shit.

Gets pass after pass because of Staley...I'm not here for it.

Kittle's lack of awareness played a pretty big role. No way Kelce is out there "Hi Georging" people while there's a live ball in play.

Kittle is good, but Kelce can make a receiving corps. His ability to read defenses and find open space is just phenomenal. He'll probably be unusually effective late into his career like Tony G bc of this skill.

Everyone blames the Chargers for his lack of success instead of placing any on him. They act like he's the next Matt Stafford, all he needs to do is be on the 49ers or the Ravens and he'd instantly win a SB. Its ridiculous.

Meh. It was one play. Out of the thousands he's played? Doubt it's an issue.

It's just an inexcusable mental gaffe at the worst time. I wouldn't mind as much if it weren't in the superbowl, but WTF are you doing out there?

It's Kittle. He's a bit of a character.

And let's be honest; most of us thought the play was over when he thought it was over. It was kind of flukey that it wasn't. I chalk it up to a bizarre accident, nothing more.

It's not like Kittle has a history of taking plays off, or making any mistakes on the field on any kind of regular basis. In fact, the exact opposite has been true of his play for his entire career.

I mean, if it makes you happy to think he's some kind of Achille's heel for SF, go ahead. I just won't agree with that idea in any way.

That might be a good call.

I'm not making any claim he's their Achilles heel or anything categorical like that. I'm just saying if Kittle doesn't space that out they may have scored on first drive the and that could've been the difference. My point is there's little nuances that separate the good from the best and that's an example. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

CJ Stroud....do it again