I’m penciling them in as SB Champs personally

I think we might host the AFC championship game again.

The #Chiefs placed WR John Ross on the reserve/retired list, according to today’s transaction wire. The record holder for fastest 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine (4.22) and No. 9 overall pick in 2017 has decided to retire

He seen our guys and was like nah I can’t beat these dudes I’m out.

Justyn Ross out here making grown men retire!

Big ****ing facts

He's been my camp darling so far. Everyday I've seen a play made, or perfect execution on another route.

Him and Mahomes put in serious time this offseason. I bet their chemistry is flowing.

I'm very excited about him and Rice. They're both looking better than I expected this early.

But Skyy Moore is going to lead the room in catches and yardage IMO.

Well. There goes John Ross.

And MVS, James & Toney are no slouches either. Legitimately 6 deep at WR, with minimal skill drop off across the board (at this point).

I think he leads early, but I think either Rice/Ross is going to emerge during the season as a true #1. My money on on Ross, being that he was in the meeting rooms last year.

But I do think skyy will have 750+ yard. I just think one of the other ones by week 6 is going to be on pace for like 1k+

Oh wells, we already knew it was a crowded room and several dudes weren't gonna make it... thanks for saving us the trouble of separating the wheat from the chaff, John

If given the choice between the two, I'd much rather have Justyn Ross than Watson on the team. Ross probably won't amount to anything as a WR, but I know for sure Watson won't amount to shit.

That's not the way it works with Andy Reid and WRs. Rice and Ross are basically both rookies and have Toney, Moore, MVS, James, and Watson ahead of them. Tyreek Hill absolutely killed it his rookie year when injuries gave him playing time, but after the injured players came back his snap count went back down. Ross will be lucky to get the Marcus Kemp treatment. I'd bet my life earnings that Ross isn't in the top 5 of receiving yards.

People freaking out about this WR group are going to look like total fools. We only lost JuJu and Mecole for pete's sake, and we gained Rice, James, and Ross.

JuJu is playing on one leg with a chronic knee issue, and Mecole had 4 years to take advantage of playing with the best QB in the history of football and couldn't do it. I bet neither one of those guys signs another deal of any significance before they retire.

Ross was in every WR meeting room last year. He was at the games, he is not a rookie.

He just red shirt that is all.

No actuslly his snap counts stayed the same

What? I think Andy think's different than you. Ross, may beat him out, but Watson and his snap count last year shows that Reid found him to be way more than a pile of shit in our #1 offense.

I felt he was above average for a 5th WR

He wasn't flashy, but cleared a lot of area for others...

Will Justyn Ross make plays in the offense this year? Shake off those brokedick vibes, my man!!

Could also be a vote of confidence in the character of McDuffie that Pat knows he can handle getting done over in training without it affecting him so he can use him to build up his receivers whereas the other corners are very much competing for starting slots so need to be given a good shot at winning the snap.

Mercole and JuJu weren't great but they did produce.

My fear is how terribly thin KC is if something happens to Kelce.

DELETE THIS

What? That's a stacked TE room. No, nobody else is Kelce, but do you really expect multiple hall of famers at the position?

I'm just saying-

These reports of Justyn Ross showing out every day at camp have to be total bullshit. I read it right here on CP that he wasn't an NFL caliber talent at all, having run a 4.8 in high school and all.

No, but I would like a WR1, so we don't have to have a future HOF TE to make the passing game click.

Yep.

Take the bottom 20 starting TEs. Now go ahead and replace any of those dudes with Noah Gray. Do you really think that team loses ANY expected production out of the position whatsoever?

I'm not saying Noah Gray is currently top 10-15 at the position. I'm not interested in doing TE rankings. But there comes a point where yeah, some guys are more talented than others, but the position just is what it is, and the job that can be done by one guy at a certain level is equally replicable by a dozen other TEs.

It's just crazy enough to work

You guys with your #1WR fetish.

If Kelce is out, you'll see a #1WR. And a 2, a 3, a 4. And it'll be different every week. And more to the point: that's perfectly fine and not a negative.

At what point do we stop saying "That's not what Andy does with ________" (or some variant on that)? Andy has changed and adapted with the times. Not making any promises, just that with Andy nothing is a guarantee.

If I were a Bears fan I would have hung myself a few years ago. :D :banghead::cuss:

Fyp

Historically, he'll play them if he needs to. And this season, he probably will.

Have we ever had a future-HOF-regular-season-MVP-Super-Bowl-MVP QB throw to a college kid in the offseason and recommend that we draft him and then we do draft him?

It stands to reason that this could be different than the experience Jehu Chesson had with Alex Smith.

With a flick of the wrist Bray hits future used car salesman for 65 yards beating Ron Parker


Wait wrong thread

On a serious note it sounds like they've done it again. Johnson in the secondary has been impressive

Yep.

Look, I get that there are questions, but I think some of the guys are looking at this all wrong.

I think this is going to be FUN, I think it's going to be THRILLING, and I'm super excited to see how this shakes out.

There's no ****in' way that all these guys bust. Not with this GM/scouting, not with this coach, not with this QB. There's just no ****in' way all of these guys are wrong.

The fun part of this season is going to be seeing who rises to the top, and some of these guys are going to.

I think with John Ross deciding he didn't want to play football anymore, the way is clear for my favorite story Justyn Ross to maybe claim a spot. I'm not expecting anything, just rooting for the kid.

I think Moore is going to be the guy that really surprises. And I think Rice is going to get a lot more looks than people think.

I'm thinking we are going to have three 1000 yard receivers this year. Kelce, Moore, and Rice.

Just the opposite for me. I think Moore definitely grows but it is Rice that will surprise and eventually be 'that guy' who shares the 'baller label' with Kelce.;)

I think Moore is your steady Eddie, and Rice is the guy with star potential, I agree.

But a steady chain mover that catches everything is always valuable.

I hate the whole 'WR1' label, as it's a bullshit fantasy football term, but Rice definitely has star potential. I said it before the draft, and I'm saying it now-he's a 'Deandre Hopkins' type receiver. Very similar in style.

But Moore might well be an elite 'WR2'. If I might use that stupid terminology for a minute.

I think it's unlikely Rice gets 1000 as a rookie.

Not unless Toney doesn't play hardly at all, and Richie James doesn't play much either.

There's a LOT of nice weapons and complimentary skill-sets here in this group.

So I don't think any of them go for 1000, but you might one pushing it and have four guys over 500 plus Kelce and his usual 1000+.

I know that is the popular thought around here. I'm just thinking our two young receivers breakout. Rookies in the NFL have went for 1000 before. I'm thinking it's going to happen here this year. JMO

Grabbing that roster spot

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Stop posting things I agree with I need to spread around the reputation.



I think Mahomes breaks the passing yards record again.

If any two of the three of Prince, Ross, and Rice produce anything near what they look like they may be capable of then our offense could be even more scary than 2018. Especially if Toney can ever get healthy.

Just need to OTs not to shit the bed. They don't have to be spectacular, they just need to not be a huge weakness. I especially trust the moves Veach makes with the OL and DB, so I'm fully confident that Smith and Taylor will be an upgrade over Brown and Wylie.

Can't remember ever being this eager to watch preseason games.

It’s exciting for sure.

I was pretty eager to watch the preseason games after the Bucs Super Bowl disaster. I’m still in awe of what Veach did with the OL in one offseason without ****ing the cap long term. Thuney, Creed, and Trey in one offseason.

Has any team ever built that good of an interior OL in one offseason?

None that immediately come to mind. The only thing I can think of that rivals it is what he did with our DBs last season. :thumb:

We certainly have a high ceiling with this group, but also a very low floor. Training camp is not football, or even close to it. We'll see how they look under the bright lights but I'm certainly more optimistic now about the WR room than before camp started. As the great Allen Iverson said, we talking about practice, not a game, PRACTICE.

I think Richie James may have McKinnon upside, value-wise. I guess the dude is always open, and Mahomes finds those guys and feeds them.

Also, weirdly under the radar, is MVS, and I think he’s not discussed because he’s a known commodity. That said, I watched a long ass highlight video a while back of last seasons top plays, and it was MVS making a play like every 3rd clip - it was super weird.

I’ve beat the MVS drum a bit. I don’t necessarily agree he is a known commodity.

The AFCCG where he stepped up and balled when he was the only ****ing guy out there is not something we’ve seen before. He did yoemans work in all aspects of the game because he was ****ing it. And he was awesome.

As far as being a known commodity, I didn’t think he had that game in him. But he does, obviously. If he becomes that dude all the time (very unlikely), watch our world. If he’s 50% that dude all the time (unlikely) he’s our WR 1 easy. If he’s 20% that dude all the time and breaks bad ass occasionally (likely) he’s a very valuable asset. If it was an aberration (unlikely) he’ll go back to speed routes and we’ll let him walk.

MVS is one of the more intriguing journeys to watch. Certainly one with the most upside.

Not sure why Watson is recieving shade on here. He had some shining moments last year and the kid can really run. His drops did increase in cold weather but other than that defense had to account for him. At a minimum I like him better than the likes of D-Rob and Pringle from a couple years ago. He's an underrated contributor on this team. Kid has heart.

Low floor?

No.

You act like we're going into a season with Drob, Kemp, and Pringle at WR.

We've got 7 guys better than any of that right now. I think this is the exact opposite of 'low floor '.

I think what determines the floor/ceiling is as much the LT situation as anything. If Smith is s**t then it's gonna impact how these guys turn out. If he's passable, there's enough depth there at WR to think talent will rise to the top.

If he's shit, he won't be in there come September. Plan B was originally plan A, and if that's so we'll see Taylor at LT and Niang or Morris at RT and that'll still be better than last season.