Electronic signatures - using your finger on a touch pad - have made personal signatures pretty much worthless. Might as well just mark an X

Assuming you have his real signatures to compare with the title one - there is so much variation, it comes down to "she said - he said"

I was agreeing with your first point. I'm sure there are fine handwriting experts and that it's an accepted practice generally, but I can also see some crackpots holding themselves out as experts, charging a ton, and being completely unusable when it counts.

This suggestion has merit.

CALL PAWN STARS

Honestly, unless the RV is worth significant money, just let it go. Not to be nice, but for your own sanity.

Wait. She's been living in it for a couple of years before he died?

Law enforcement won't get involved until you prove it is yours & get a court order demanding she turn it over. Even then may require you to hire Repoman to take it back.

See all the squatters headaches right now across the country as evidence.

She doesn't live in it. She has her own home.

Go pour sand in the gas tank and call it a day.

It looks like Nobody has the (WILL) to help you.


Do you see what I did there?

lets ride

Here's some bad advice haha

IF you truly believe that she forged your fathers signature on the new RV title and are just having trouble getting legal help. Just go ahead and forge yourself a Will stating that the RV and what ever else goes to you. I'd think that she would then have to then get an attorney which would be opening up herself by either letting the RV go OR trying to show her proof "Forged title". She might not want to do that and just give ut back.

A signature of an old person is probably not very consistent from one signature to another.

Combo RIP would have snatched this for you

**** that. That leaves an actual paper trail.

Doubtful he gets the RV back. She has to leave sometime. Just have the ****er towed out to the middle of the desert and burn the ****er down. Unlikely she has any insurance on it.

Why is this being thrown around? I can't say I've ever seen a title signature need to be notarized.

Yes. Be strong and forge through this.

I'm wondering about another possibility. Let's say that you sue and win, and regain possession of the RV. Would this woman have a legal leg to stand on if she tried to sue for 'storage fees' for the last two years? I think a court might consider that reasonable, given that there was no benefit to her for keeping it there for your father.

Did you get appointed as executor by the probate court and is there an attorney for the estate?

My thoughts is that if there is a probate case and you are the executor appointed by court order after you applied to be appointed, it is your duty to marshal the property that belongs in the estate and if someone is claiming ownership of property that you believe belongs to the estate, then you should file a contested companion case to determine if the property is part of the estate.

You should name the other person as defendant in the companion case and use subpeona power or powers as executor from the probate case to get the title history from motor vehicles and any other relevant records.

I assume if father did not sign over the title or name companion as TOD on a new title, then you would have a case to set aside any title procured by fraud or forgery.

Does Iowa let you get letters of appointment without an attorney?

In Missouri, you need an attorney to be in the case when you get letters of appointment and attorney would be the one taking the lead on deciding if a companion case would be needed.

I am a lawyer. My first thought when I read the OP is that most lawyers don't want to bother with this because there's not much money in it for them.

Not saying you (OP) have done this, but the amount of people who call up and "just want to ask a few questions about [their] rights" but have no intent of paying for my time is staggering. And I'm usually not inclined to put much effort into talking to them unless and until the clock is running and I'm getting paid.

A lawyer doesn't get a salary. He is paid for his time. Put differently, his time is what he sells. Every 15 minutes he spends talking to a non-paying caller is 15 minutes he's not getting paid for. It's literally like taking money out of his pocket.

Combine that with a (probable) low dollar case, and you're going to have a hard time getting anyone to seriously look into the issues and discuss them because they already suspect you're not going to want to pay them what it will cost to litigate. Simply put, they don't want to waste their time.

If you really want to get a lawyer to take a serious look into it, you need to start off the conversation by telling them you will pay their hourly rate for their time discussing it with you--regardless of whether you ultimately litigate or not. That way, if they spend time investigating and dissecting your situation and you decide you don't want to sue (which, to be honest, is probably going to be the outcome unless it's an extremely valuable vehicle), they still get compensated.

Just my 2 cents.

My guess is the father transferred her the title to the RV.

How much did it cost me to read that post Yosef?

:p

Depending on the value of the remaining property, what if she were to go after the whole works?

Tl;dr juice isn’t worth the squeeze :p

Exactly this. And if you want someone to actually dig into it, you need to offer some juice up front.

Mike's got this

Ok Yosef, you can have the antique flower fabric couch as a retainer.

I read it, but only because I'm going to bill him $75 for it now.

LMAO

This is, almost without exception, the correct answer.

Wait.

She’s probably looking for the next victim and you probably know enough about her…to catfish her.

Do you even want the hassle of dealing with a mobile home located in New Mexico?

You’re probably better off cutting the loss.

I've watched 3 Police Academy movies.

Clearly, the answer is to have Bubba Smith tip the RV over onto its side.

the boat race in police academy 2 was on all the time on HBO growing up

Sorry he loved her more than you.


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I think for the board to provide accurate advice we need to know the value of the RV. Unless this is simply due to it being your dads RV and you want it back.

1. You have to prove she forged the title transfer. That's not easy unless the transfer was done literally after the father died. Was she a TOD beneficiary on the title? Is the OP sure the father didn't transfer this woman the title while living?

2. If there was a forgery, the OP would have to sue her in County Court and request the Judge to avoid the transfer. This isn't a police matter because it's not serious enough for them to care.

3. If the Court agrees with the OP, the transfer becomes void and title reverts to the deceased father. The OP then needs to notify the DMV and provide them the Court Order for them to reissue the title. Hopefully he talks to a clerk at the DMV that won't be flummoxed by this Order.

4. If he achieves #1, #2, and #3, the OP would need to open a small probate case to get title transferred into his own name. Then he can do as he pleases with the RV, but wait.................

5. If this lady refuses to leave the RV after the above events, the OP would need to file an eviction proceeding against her.


It's many hoops to jump through. Is it worth it financially? Will any attorney take this matter up?

From Chat GPT:)

I'm sorry to hear about the difficult situation you are going through. It can be frustrating when it feels like law enforcement and attorneys aren't taking your concerns seriously.

One option you might consider is pursuing a civil lawsuit against the woman. You could consult with a civil litigation attorney who could help you determine if you have a case and what your legal options are.

Another option is to seek the help of a private investigator who can gather evidence to support your case. They may be able to find evidence that could prove that the woman's claim of ownership of the motor home is false.

You could also try to gather evidence on your own, such as bank statements or emails, that could help prove your case.

In addition to legal action, you could also try reaching out to local media outlets or consumer protection agencies. They may be able to help bring attention to your case and put pressure on law enforcement and the legal system to take action.

Finally, it's important to take care of yourself during this stressful time. Consider reaching out to a therapist or support group to help you cope with the emotions and challenges you are facing.

Joe! Missed ya buddy!

Hmm. That's actually a really good answer.

I guess I’m just trying to get attention at this point.

Lot of good posters in this thread with sound advice.

I got an attorney who found this woman’s long history of scamming.

Suing this woman. And my attorney is driving a civil suit. Between the RV and a lot of other stuff, I’m guessing she screwed my dad out of close to 100 grand.

And my attorney has been trying to serve her papers, but she’s running.

I don’t have a lot of hateful thoughts, but this bitch…

I’m trying to remain optimistic.

I appreciate many of you for your advice, helpful thoughts, etc.

But for some of you that think this is a time for you to think you’re funny, or clever, or whatever…. You need to check yourself. If you care about yourself, your elderly parents, you should at least know empathy.

This is clearly not the best forum to discuss such serious issues, but I don’t have a lot of people to talk to. So give me a little grace, please.

This is your user name and tag line:
GabyKeepsMeWarm
I'll **** anything that moves!

You've posted 371 times in total over two years.

You say you are seeking attention but cry about people posting things that they think are funny.

You are a mult troll with a stupid ****ing story and even a bigger piece of shit with your stupid attempt at sympathy.

I picture you as one of about 5 noted douchenozzles on here trying to be cute.

Nice try but not believing it a ****ing bit. :rolleyes:

Thanks.


Get ****ed.

Alcoholism has a cure.

No it doesn't.
But.

If he fixed his self esteem he wouldn't spend his life trying to buy friends.

First step is gonna be a little bit of a problem with that one.

What did you figure her rate was each time? That seems like a lot. Good for your old man that he was getting screwed at all, though. We can all only hope to have companionship like that in the end.

**** that bitch.

Preying on old people is a special type of mother****er.

My guess is the only winner here is the lawyer. Even if they nail her ass to the wall, that money is spent.

Hope I'm wrong.

Best of luck.

Best of luck...


Let this is a lesson get a will, do it today... for you and any family older than you...

So I'm reading this through different lenses today than last year when the thread was created. Since then my Dad has gone downhill healthwise and has been in a "skilled" nursing / assisted living facility and any thought of him being taken advantage of in his weakened state would set me off. I guess I'm just saying, "I feel 'ya".

Good luck nailing this sub-human.

Thank you to those who took a minute to lend me some support. I do appreciate it.

And as one or more posters have said, get a will. It is very good advice and the cost and time is minimal.

How is this civil? the act committed is criminal in nature and hence cannot be taken under a civil matter. Do you have original copies of the title?

5% of the population are psychopaths and women psychopaths are the worst. Childhood friends' uncle was an old country musician in the 80's (studio musician for some big acts). He fell for the same class of twat but she took it a step further. He died of a stroke and she took custody of the body and cut his family out. She bilked as much money as she could out of what little he had (old farmer) and then proceeded to dump his body into an unmarked grave -- somewhere in KS -- after the morgue released the remains.

Just FYI - I'd take a little detail out of that post.

I went looking to see if I could find service information for your girl there and...well, things lay out pretty quickly/easily.

Unfortunately I couldn't find any useful information for ya, but if someone wanted to, it wouldn't be hard for them to get more information than you really want them having...

(John Wick 3 was fantastic, BTW...)

I empathize with the situation, but why would someone give someone else $100 grand worth of stuff?

It happens all the time, especially with old farmers.

I know an evil bitch who most likely took my grandfather for more than that. It's only "most likely" because I could only track it down to somewhere around $75k. When she started the move, she moved fast, and it took a while for the family to catch the paper trail. Titles, checks, transfers, on and on. Dad and I got the titles corrected, but couldn't get the banks to cooperate at all on all the checks. Threats from lawyers quickly got her evicted, but there was no recovering most of the loss. Eventually, we figured out he was the 3rd or 4th person this bitch had preyed on over the years and it was how she had collected the houses that her shit stain family members were living in.

This reminds me. I need to go freshen the stain on her grave stone.

Have you ever thought of the scenario where she earned every bit of that RV by making your father a happy man in his older age? He did drive far to see her so I'm guessing she was good for something.

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You get some very weird blowjobs.

Well you got my point.

Hope OP's dad had some fun in NM and lived it up later in life.

I grew up amongst old farmers and can't recall anything like this happening. How could any whore be worth that much?

I don't understand it either, but I'm not 70+ years old. It's much cheaper to just pay an actual whore and housekeeper. In his case, I believe it was the very first stages of his mental decline and she knew it.

It doesn't help that assets that used to be measured in hundreds of thousands are now measured in millions. It brings out the worst in people.

I know of 2 different people that "inherited" real estate from unrelated parties. I don't know the situations and it might ball be above board, but it happens.

Oh and I live in a tiny town.

No. If you knew what I know, you wouldn't even suggest it. She's a con artist. This is what she does. My father wasn't her only victim.

Well you know more then I it this situation. Sucks this happened and I hope you find a resolution to this situation.

Bit of positive progress today. Still have some work to do, but judge had a default ruling today in favor of us. We're gonna get this bitch.

Good luck collecting, bub.

Yeah. I know. Therein lies the rub. But I will "collect" one way or another, be it cash in fist, or a lead pipe and a blow torch. But hey, thanks for the optimism.

I guess someone needs to tell you. It's just an expression.

We need tort reform for a number of reasons and state legislatures have concerns elsewhere, such as springing criminals and spreading unicorns and rainbows.

I've read that if someone gets their hands on a title, they can steal a property quite easily which is why we're told to keep registrations and not titles in vehicles. It's really too bad your dad didn't sent you the title for safe keeping or something. There's no question she got the title by forgery. It's the only way. I would think that would require a notary to do so, so there is probably a dirty notary involved also.

Doesn’t matter. There is zero paper trail for her claim of the vehicle. Even if he did gift it to her, she hasn’t been able to make any clear claim of it, with the exception of taking claim of it and retitling it.

It’s so ****ed, I get to sound ridiculous and with it, at the same time.

It’s great when we have legal beuaracracy that prevents a guy from going to the DMV, but then walking down the hall with a “title” and getting that shit signed off.

Thanks. I’m glad I went elsewhere. So far so good.

But I spoke to a few lawyers who “sorta” sounded like you.

I’m sure you’re a great lawyer though…. God bless

I’ve considered it. I’m not a monster who wants this. If my dad could have had a solid companion during his end days, I would’ve been totally down. She wasn’t it.

It’s funny you mention TORT reform. It’s ****ed that I even know about TORT. And the only reason I know, is due to my dad dying, being his executor, and having to file a civil suit.

I feel like it’s very “American”! We should all be trained in minimal math, geography, social distancing, humor and Built to Spill.

**** it man…. Time to play the drums and relax from this shit.

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You were telling lawyers to “do their ****ing job” in the OP.

Sounds like you would have been a real treat to represent.

Good luck bloodletting that stone.

I think I was mostly referring to law enforcement at that time, and I was also incredibly frustrated. This has been a horrible experience.

But here’s to hoping nobody close to you ever dies and you get to be executor and then discover your loved one had been taken advantage of before they passed.

My dad died earlier this year and his will said his ex of 6 years owes him (and therefore my sis and I) $240,000...which she obviously doesn't want to pay. She was also a complete c***. Suffice to say I have nothing useful to say aside from I feel for you and good luck.

I’ve got a few updates to anyone interested…

So the defendant, Alicia finally got served after ducking it for months. She hired an attorney, and things progressed until I recognized the name of her attorney. I’d spoken to this guy discussing everything about the case in a 15 minute phone conversation. I realized during our conversation this lawyer was NOT for me.

But I mention this to the attorney I did actually hire and he recommends having her attorney removed due to a potential conflict of interest. Several filings later and a quick zoom call hearing later, her attorney is removed. It was pretty embarrassing. Her attorney has a lousy reputation, is getting up there in years and according to my attorney, the guy could be disbarred. I probably did her a favor in getting that jackass removed.

But nevertheless, Alicia was given notice to find other representation within 30 days or she would be on her own. Several more filings with the same judge, mind you…. As an aside, the judge seems like a smart cookie based on my zoom call where I’m getting cross examined by this dipshit lawyer she hired and it was easy to tell the judge was exasperated by this old man pretending to be a lawyer.

So notice was given that she was to be deposed next week, on the 23rd. I received this notice about two weeks ago from my attorney.

Looks like she’s representing herself.

This is where it gets good.

My lawyer reached out to me a couple days ago stating that now Alicia is alleging she had an appointment with MY attorney in September of 2022, and she’s filed a motion for him to be removed as my attorney due to conflict of interest. Unreal. Just for context, in September of 2022, I knew about her wrong doings, but I was still in the probate state with a different attorney handling dad’s estate. I hadn’t even moved things out his house in September of 2022 and I was handling Alicia’s shit with law enforcement.

Well, I’m just gonna copy and paste my attorney’s reply to her filing of him being removed. I can only imagine the smile he must’ve had from ear to ear as he wrote it and then the hopefully horrified look on her face as she read it:

“Alicia

I have your motion and I am giving you this opportunity to withdraw it. You indicated that I saw you in September 2022. Of all the times you could’ve suggested that I saw you, you picked September 2022. First of all, I suspect that’s before the controversy arose, secondly we have no record of you coming in anytime in 2022, but without regard to that, it would’ve been nearly impossible for you to see me in September 2022; in fact, it would highly unlikely for me to see you from about June 2022 through December 2022 as I was gravely ill during that time. I was hospitalized and not able to take appointments for a significant period of time. On top of that medical issue going, my office suffered a huge flood and we were closed for a number of weeks after that.

Thus, you either have me mixed up with someone else or you made this up. I assume the former and doubt the latter. I will give you one week to withdraw the motion, but if you do not, I will assume the latter and file a response and ask for attorney fees and costs. Obviously, if you have anything that indicates that I am mistaken, let me know.

Incidentally, the Court would have records of my absence, because I had to write all the judges a letter to advise of my unavailability.

I await your response.”


Is that something ****ing beautiful, or what? He goes out of his way to just call her a total ****ing liar and presents it into something gleefully satisfying.

At any rate, this experience has been pretty terrible, but this made me laugh. This woman is wearing clown pants and stopping at nothing to not be held accountable. At this point, I kinda wish I was asking for more in punitive damages, but I’m not greedy and that’s not what this has been about. But man…. The thoughts I’ve had if I could have even five minutes alone with this ****…

Pro se litigants get a lot of slack from courts generally. But lying to a judge is a major, major no-no. Keep us posted on whether she withdraws the motion and how the deposition goes.