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RunKC 03-23-2022 10:47 AM

Mahomes passer rating with Tyreek: 106

Mahomes passer rating without Tyreek: 103

TEX 03-23-2022 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 16208376)
Kept Frank ****ing Clark, and traded Hill... this is a day that will live in infamy

Exactly. Dumb ****s.Because Chiefs

wazu 03-23-2022 10:47 AM

Awful day. Can't ****ing believe this is real.

Bob Dole 03-23-2022 10:47 AM

Time for Hardman to step the **** up.

Skyy God 03-23-2022 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 16208374)
Why do the Dolphins have pick 29 in round 1?

From SF as part of the Trey Lance trade.

Simply Red 03-23-2022 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16208272)
Lol at all the dipshits thinking Waddle was coming back, after they traded two 1s to draft him last year.

So much stupid.

sure NOWWW you comment this.

KCUnited 03-23-2022 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 16208370)
Losing hill just puts a glaring hole on our run game. Hill took a lot of pressure off. This gonna hurt bad.

We've still got a glory hole on defense as well.

New World Order 03-23-2022 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16208363)
Now trade for Lockett to soften that blow a bit?

You gotta think we’re trading for someone with all of these picks

OnTheWarpath15 03-23-2022 10:48 AM

Can't blame Veach for not wanting to pay a 28 year old, speed dependent WR TOP TEN QB MONEY, but man, the return sucks a bag of dicks.

Skyy God 03-23-2022 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16208389)
Mahomes passer rating with Tyreek: 106

Mahomes passer rating without Tyreek: 103

OMG, the sky is falling!!

jettio 03-23-2022 10:48 AM

Chiefs could bundle #29 and #30 to move up in Round 1 and maybe also get that team's second round pick if Chiefs give up a 4th or something.

It would be interesting to see if they just draft with these picks or try to move up for an elite prospect who would never be around at #29 or #30.

Tyreek has brought more excitement and joy than any Chiefs player ever. Long TDs on returns, lined up as RB and so many as WR. His natural gifts and work ethic, he is an all-time great.

I hate to see him leave, but it is not as hard to take as I would have thought, since it is before draft.

Chris Meck 03-23-2022 10:48 AM

this is very comparable to the Adams deal, certainly not significantly worse. You guys are overreacting.

We have 8 picks now in the top 135 in a very, very deep draft. We have an extra $20m in cap space to play with.

This team will look different this year, but it might well look better overall when it's all said and done.

Reload. I'm down.

DTVietnam 03-23-2022 10:49 AM

yall who were calling me a moron in the other thread last week for saying we are in a mini rebuild want to apologize now?

Marcellus 03-23-2022 10:49 AM

We just gained 20MM in cap space as well.

KC was never going to pay Hill $30MMper year.

dirk digler 03-23-2022 10:49 AM

**** YOU VEACH. ****ING ASSHOLE

saturnknts 03-23-2022 10:49 AM

I wondered when he declined to a rework last year to save us cap space. Sad day for sure, wish him well.

Simply Red 03-23-2022 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16208311)
Not enough.

But that's a lot of premium picks + a lot of cap space.

yeah this.

notorious 03-23-2022 10:49 AM

Lol, that’s it? :facepalm:

RaiderH8r 03-23-2022 10:49 AM

As a broncos fan happy to see him out of the division. Which also explains the distaste for the trade by you guys. 😁

That said, you guys still have that Mahomes ****er under center and, as much as it pains me to say it, he is a real mother****er to play against. Those picks are gonna give y’all a lot of firepower and flexibility come draft time. Cold comfort for losing a fan favorite but I can sympathize with how y’all feel. Just from one sports fan to another.

FringeNC 03-23-2022 10:49 AM

Paying Hill what the Dolphins are is a better would have been a better use of cap funds that paying Frank Clark what we've been paying. Past bad decisions affect the present.

staylor26 03-23-2022 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16208383)
We barely had a run. Wtf. LMAO

I can't ****ing believe this off season. ****ing horrible. Veach failed so ****ing hard.

Considering our entire offseason plan will be built around a draft that hasn’t happened yet, you are ****ing stupid.

Red Dawg 03-23-2022 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16208396)
You gotta think we’re trading for someone with all of these picks

No. We need the picks for the draft. We have big holes everywhere at DE, CB and WR.

MahomesMagic 03-23-2022 10:50 AM

We almost have to move up in the draft now if they want a top WR.

Iconic 03-23-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16208349)
Late 1 and a bunch of junk.

This sucks, no way around it.

sums up the trade lol

Hill -> MIA
Late 1st and trash -> KC

you can't convince me this is in any way shape or form a good trade for us. **** off with that apologist bullshit. the return is absolute garbage for what will be a hof talent in his prime.

Molitoth 03-23-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam (Post 16208368)
I hope we go 6-11 this year

**** Veach

I hope you turn in your fan card. You don't deserve it.

chiefs1111 03-23-2022 10:50 AM

3 year 75 million dollar extension per NFL Network

wazu 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

This trade is ****ing pathetic from every angle.

Rainbarrel 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

I really like getting younger!

Sassy Squatch 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

Bullshit. Jets had AT LEAST #10 on the table. If Hill doesnt want his massive extension with the highest bidder then he can think about the tag during the rest of his prime years to reconsider. ****ing garbage we took that offer in part to appease where Hill wanted to go.

RunKC 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

Tyreek got $30 million AAV from the Dolphins

THIRTY MILLION

Veach absolutely did the right thing

DJ's left nut 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

Just stay put, Brett.

We're taking a step back. That's a foregone conclusion at this point.

So don't get aggressive and go trading for veteran WRs. Don't go packaging 1st round picks and giving up value to get someone 5% better than who you'd get at 29 and 30.

Just sit ****ing still.

Let the draft come to you, take the best player available at any spot anywhere. Recognize that next year may be nasty and it just doesn't goddamn matter.

This just isn't a good enough return to justify keeping your foot on the gas. And those 4th ****ing rounders are just insulting somehow. Like they goddamn matter in a trade of this magnitude.

Ugh - this is just damn disappointing. A late 1st, a mid-2nd and some scraps. Blech.

BigCatDaddy 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16208396)
You gotta think we’re trading for someone with all of these picks

And some cap space... I'm not buying the "rebuild" thing. We still have a great QB/Line/TE and pretty good WR 2.

lawrenceRaider 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

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The Franchise 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16208420)
Bullshit. Jets had AT LEAST #10 on the table. If Hill doesnt want his massive extension with the highest bidder then he can think about the tag during the rest of his prime years to reconsider. ****ing garbage we took that offer in part to appease where Hill wanted to go.

And he would have held out.

ToxSocks 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16208387)

Let's hope we get a #1 WR now..not easy.

It's not?

WR's seem to grow on trees these days. This is like the 3rd or 4th consecutive "strong WR" year in the draft.

Bob Dole 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16208393)
From SF as part of the Trey Lance trade.

I'd feel a lot better about this if Bart had gotten their actual first.

Tyreek now highest paid receiver in the league. No way we could have done that.

alpha_omega 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16208327)
30 mil a year wow

Can't hate him for that.

CatfishBob2 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16208401)
this is very comparable to the Adams deal, certainly not significantly worse. You guys are overreacting.

We have 8 picks now in the top 135 in a very, very deep draft. We have an extra $20m in cap space to play with.

This team will look different this year, but it might well look better overall when it's all said and done.

Reload. I'm down.

Yup. It is what it is now. Any way we can get to Olave now?

Prison Bitch 03-23-2022 10:51 AM

I like the deal

We sold high

Smart orgs do that

FAX 03-23-2022 10:52 AM

My worst fears hath befallen me.

FAX THE SAD

comochiefsfan 03-23-2022 10:52 AM

John Dorsey would've NEVER allowed it to get to this point.

stevegroganfan 03-23-2022 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16208385)
Remember when Deion Branch won Super Bowls with Brady and signed a stupid huge contract with Seattle after NE traded him for a 1st rounder?

He got stuck with shit like Matt Hasselbeck and Seneca Wallace, and the Patriots got him back for a 4th rounder.

I'm glad Hill is going to a team with a broke dick noodle armed QB. Means he can get paid and come back home next year.

Branch was just a decent #2 receiver who shined since the Patriots had no one else any better so he was targeted like he was a #1 receiver. Hill is legitimately a top 1-5 receiver/punt returner in the NFL but the Chiefs did get a great haul for him. Who knows how well Hill lasts as a great receiver but Hill proved himself with Alex Smith. He developed into a great receiver when Smith was still on the team...helping Smith put up really good stats that year.

arrowheadnation 03-23-2022 10:52 AM

Lol.....at whomever said we "barely" had a run. 4 straight AFC Championship games and a couple superbowls is something most teams would die for.

DTVietnam 03-23-2022 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16208403)
We just gained 20MM in cap space as well.

KC was never going to pay Hill $30MMper year.

cool story bro..now change your avatar.,.hes no longer a Chiefs either. .

stumppy 03-23-2022 10:52 AM

AMF (adios mf)

I'm just glad we have a QB who is about the team.

Abba-Dabba 03-23-2022 10:53 AM

I'm good with it. Tyreek has wanted out of KC for a while. He was either going to drag KC over the coals on a contract, or be dealt. Chiefs took the reins and shipped him off to where he really wants to be, Miami.

I'm not ecstatic in the compensation. But it will be a chance to refocus and regroup while getting younger. Or maybe even trade up. My feelings on the quickness of this tell me there was more to it than we will ever know. I have a feeling though there might be a few in Chiefs land that lose their family sources of info with the moves that have been made and certain players not resigned.

The Franchise 03-23-2022 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16208422)
Just stay put, Brett.

We're taking a step back. That's a foregone conclusion at this point.

So don't get aggressive and go trading for veteran WRs. Don't go packaging 1st round picks and giving up value to get someone 5% better than who you'd get at 29 and 30.

Just sit ****ing still.

Let the draft come to you, take the best player available at any spot anywhere. Recognize that next year may be nasty and it just doesn't goddamn matter.

This just isn't a good enough return to justify keeping your foot on the gas. And those 4th ****ing rounders are just insulting somehow. Like they goddamn matter in a trade of this magnitude.

Ugh - this is just damn disappointing. A late 1st, a mid-2nd and some scraps. Blech.

I don’t think the Jets offer was going to happen. I’m fine with the trade. Just use those picks and the newly gained cap space to build a defense.

Dallas Chief 03-23-2022 10:53 AM

Horrible day. I cannot believe this BS. Dude was an absolute game changer.

Baby Lee 03-23-2022 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16208255)
**** you Brett.

Dorsey never would have allowed this

RunKC 03-23-2022 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16208422)
Just stay put, Brett.

We're taking a step back. That's a foregone conclusion at this point.

So don't get aggressive and go trading for veteran WRs. Don't go packaging 1st round picks and giving up value to get someone 5% better than who you'd get at 29 and 30.

Just sit ****ing still.

Let the draft come to you, take the best player available at any spot anywhere. Recognize that next year may be nasty and it just doesn't goddamn matter.

This just isn't a good enough return to justify keeping your foot on the gas. And those 4th ****ing rounders are just insulting somehow. Like they goddamn matter in a trade of this magnitude.

Ugh - this is just damn disappointing. A late 1st, a mid-2nd and some scraps. Blech.

I can’t blame Brett. This is smart. Dolphins just gave him 4/$120 million.

He’s going to have cap hits of more than $30 million from 2023-2025. Our cap would be ****ed and we wouldn’t have the picks to supplement it

Mile High Mania 03-23-2022 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r (Post 16208408)
As a broncos fan happy to see him out of the division. Which also explains the distaste for the trade by you guys. 😁

That said, you guys still have that Mahomes ****er under center and, as much as it pains me to say it, he is a real mother****er to play against. Those picks are gonna give y’all a lot of firepower and flexibility come draft time. Cold comfort for losing a fan favorite but I can sympathize with how y’all feel. Just from one sports fan to another.

True... stings a bit now, but could really pay off long-term.

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-23-2022 10:53 AM

This is similar to the "Patriots Way" philosophy... Everyone else in the Conference and Division are trying to catch lightning in a bottle like the Rams and like they do in Baseball. We are in it for the long game and as much as I love Tyreek, paying him that kind of money would have broke us in the long term.

notorious 03-23-2022 10:54 AM

Will Hill go into the HOF a Chief or a Dolphin? /Deberg

Tribal Warfare 03-23-2022 10:54 AM

With the Chiefs picks we have to hope, pray, grab our lucky jock straps, and sacrifice sacred animals that one of the selections is the 2nd coming of Reggie White or it results in the 1974 Steelers draft quality.

OnTheWarpath15 03-23-2022 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16208439)
I don’t think the Jets offer was going to happen. I’m fine with the trade. Just use those picks and the newly gained cap space to build a defense.

And an offense.

RaidersOftheCellar 03-23-2022 10:54 AM

This would be a lot easier to accept if they were SB champs.

Too bad this little traitor wouldn't accept a team-friendly deal. So many greedy bastards out there.

siberian khatru 03-23-2022 10:54 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With the Chiefs trading Tyreek Hill, the team creates $20.4 million in salary cap space, according to Over The Cap.</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1506674480797696007?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Woogieman 03-23-2022 10:55 AM

Like most, I was hoping to get a little more next year, but before the trade is given an "F", let's see what happens with the $20mm cap space that opened up (prob won't know until next year), and what Veach does with the extra picks (comps from Poles). He's never been in this position, never had an economy of picks...if he's great, he can practically rule the next two drafts. 1 down year while everyone spends like a Hilton sister so you dominate the next 7? Deal me in.

scho63 03-23-2022 10:55 AM

This hurts as a big Tyreek fan but obviously they wanted to offer a ton to get him.

Just remember Jared Allen's trade and how it hurt like hell and then we drafted GREAT and got Brandon Albert and Jamaal Charles.

Let's hope we get something good here.

I wonder if Brett felt since all the teams are playing a deep cover 2 now, that Tyreek's value was less?

He was one hell of a weapon.

Bob Dole 03-23-2022 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 16208413)
We almost have to move up in the draft now if they want a top WR.

Everyone freaking out is forgetting that we drafted Hardman as Hill's replacement when all the bullshit was happening with baby momma. I'm disappointed in the return, but we couldn't match the payday Hill just got.

The Franchise 03-23-2022 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16208447)
And an offense.

Get a Dotson or Burks in the first and we’ll be okay.

TribalElder 03-23-2022 10:56 AM

should have took the jets #10 pick

#29 is shit

tk13 03-23-2022 10:56 AM

You just aren't going to find another talent like Hill. That's why it sucks. It's not going to happen. But it's the name of the game... we've been going all out to win the last couple years and other teams will have more cap space and be able to go wild. And when you're successful some guys are going think they've got their ring and go get as much money as humanly possible.

The only way to kind of stop this is do what Polian did with the Colts, pay Manning, James, Harrison, etc. and then literally don't do anything major in FA and build everything through the draft.

stevegroganfan 03-23-2022 10:56 AM

Congratulations for a move the Patriots under Belichick would have made 10 out of 10 times. Great medium to long term deal for the Chiefs if KC just does a decent job with the additional cap space and plethora of picks. It values Hill more than Adams and when you factor in Hill's punt returning ability, he should be valued a little more. Hill will probably age better than Adams since he takes less big hits and he is already one year younger but one injury to Hill could obviously change everything.

Dolphins made much more sense for Hill than the Jets. He will be the big star even over their QB which most people think of as someone more like an average QB. Lower taxes than NY. Warm weather perhaps more important as he ages. Arguably better night life than even NY. Great place to live if you are rich.

Long term this trade helps the Bills/Patriots/Jets since Dolphins lost so much cheap draft capital but it does make the Dolphins better in the short term.

siberian khatru 03-23-2022 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16208455)
should have took the jets #10 pick

#29 is shit

We didn't have a choice

Shields68 03-23-2022 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 16208414)
sums up the trade lol

Hill -> MIA
Late 1st and trash -> KC

you can't convince me this is in any way shape or form a good trade for us. **** off with that apologist bullshit. the return is absolute garbage for what will be a hof talent in his prime.

Yeah trading Hill is not good. But you also need to factor in that Hill was not signing here for what we could pay him. We could not make the cap numbers work for a 25 million a year contract. The only way this works out is we use the 21 million we cleared for signing Hill productively and bring in one or two guys that improves our team and then hit with the picks.

Mr. Plow 03-23-2022 10:57 AM

Any word on the new contract?

BigCatDaddy 03-23-2022 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16208432)
John Dorsey would've NEVER allowed it to get to this point.

The guy that drafted Mayfield?

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-23-2022 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16208455)
should have took the jets #10 pick

#29 is shit

JFC if Hill doesn’t wanna sign a long term deal the 10th isn’t on the table. He didn’t wanna play there. Are people this stupid

Valiant 03-23-2022 10:57 AM

Sucks. Don't think we got enough back. Was my favorite guy. But he is secure for life.

But I guess we see how Patrick does without him.
Guys will need to step up or Kelce will be triple teamed.

staylor26 03-23-2022 10:57 AM

Now we have to rebuild our offense?

LMAO

We need a couple of young talented WRs. That’s it.

The rest is all defense.

New World Order 03-23-2022 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16208444)
This is similar to the "Patriots Way" philosophy... Everyone else in the Conference and Division are trying to catch lightning in a bottle like the Rams and like they do in Baseball. We are in it for the long game and as much as I love Tyreek, paying him that kind of money would have broke us in the long term.

Well, our gm better start drafting some weapons because Hill is gone and Kelce will be 33 this year

suzzer99 03-23-2022 10:58 AM

This sucks so bad. You could have 10 high #1 draft picks and easily not hit on a HOF-level talent like Hill. Yeah he's 28 but the dude is a solid ball of muscle and not injury prone. He's easily got 4 more good years. This is less than we got for Jared Allen.

You have to hope the Chiefs know something we don't. Or that Mahomes was good with this on some level. Good teams don't trade away HOF players in their prime. It's just weird.

Plus I like watching Hill play. He's a fun player. I always thought we'd have him through his prime. I don't want to be like the Oakland As where we just bring in a bunch of market-efficient retreads. Not losing star players is one big reason I like the NFL better than MLB now.

smithandrew051 03-23-2022 10:58 AM

A lot of people mad at Veach, but few are mad at Hill. Interesting.

Balto 03-23-2022 10:58 AM

What can a person buy with a salary of $28M that a person making $25M can't?

ShowtimeSBMVP 03-23-2022 10:58 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More Tyreek Hill contract details: The $72.2 million becomes fully guaranteed at the start of the 2023 league year. The other $52.535 million is fully guaranteed at signing.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1506676546311962631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Wow

Molitoth 03-23-2022 10:58 AM

The Jared Allen trade got us Branden Albert, Jamaal Charles, DaJaun Morgan and saved a shit load of money.

Hopefully BURT can pull off something similar.

R8RFAN 03-23-2022 10:58 AM

I am 100% not trolling but I have to ask... There is a certain player that likes to play with legends... PM will be a legend if he is not already. Will AB be in a Chiefs uniform next year....

Dante84 03-23-2022 10:58 AM

Sucks but...


Mahomes.
+ $20M
+ a shitton of picks.

Iowanian 03-23-2022 10:58 AM

There has to be a little more to this than just financial reasons.

The Chiefs know more than we do, it's his attitude, a health issue, chemistry...something that made this decision doable for less than (2) 1s.


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