Za’darious has been released.

With all the smoke i expect us to sign him. Maybe theyre waiting to sign someone before sending frank down the road?

With what money?

Only 1 hr and 20 minutes to go.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Many signs point to Kansas City for Smith. <a href="https://t.co/rIYPYHqUvC">https://t.co/rIYPYHqUvC</a></p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/1503378153875681291?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don’t know how I feel.

Get excited or shake my head in disgust? How should I feel?

Veach on FA. Just so everyone doesn’t freak out.

For all we know the Tyreek contract and the Mahomes deal are on the table just waiting to be signed.

Yeah.... This is scary. We're trading a shoulder injury which never went away for a back injury that will almost likely never go away.

Yea, Smith’s back is a little scary, but all of these free agent edge rushers are older and risky.

Smith just makes sense because of the connection with Cullen and he won’t count against comp picks.

Exactly. As long as we don't overpay, it's really not a big deal.

Real G’s move in silence like lasagna.

Exactly. No Frank Clark type money and we'll be good. Plus, IIRC, he looked good in the playoffs. Not excellent but that was his first game back.

Not overpay is a myth most of the time. If we want him we will have to pay big. There is no deal that's good to be had with top players.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> WR Byron Pringle is heading to free agency, after catching a career-high 42 passes for 568 yards and five touchdowns, <br><br>Expect a strong market for the 28-year old ascending receiver. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFL</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lombardo (@MattLombardoNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattLombardoNFL/status/1503383333740466183?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Which we shouldn't. Nearly all the guys being discussed are broke dicks

When I say "overpay" I'm talking about egregious abuses of the cap, aka Frank Clark.

I don't care if we give him big money. Just don't wreck the cap in doing so.

With the money they can easily access by breaking certain piggy banks.

1. Restructure Mahomes' $27M roster bonus into a signing bonus. = $21.6M in room

2. Extend Tyreek Hill = likely $10-12M in savings/additional room

3. Reach long-term deal with Orlando Brown, Jr. = likely another $6-8M in room

4. Cut Frank Clark = $13M in room.

Do all 4, and all of a sudden KC has around $50M in cap space to spend.

They'll do them slow and steady, though, and break the banks open as they need them.

More followers than Clays source

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source: I’m told the Kansas City <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> and Tyrann Mathieu are close to finalizing a deal that would keep the Honey Badger in KC for 2022. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLFreeAgency?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLFreeAgency</a></p>&mdash; Justin Cohen (@BadBoyOfScoops) <a href="https://twitter.com/BadBoyOfScoops/status/1503365665205456900?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Get this dumb shit out of here.

Which is why the market probably won't develop for him in a cap crippling sort of way.

Oh sure, if someone's looking to give him 3/$45 w/ $20 million in guarantees, he'll take that. But I don't think anyone will be. He's realistically going to be looking at 2 year deals with mostly fake money in year 2.

I can live with that. And unless/until we hit on some DL in the draft, that's the kind of churn we're going to have to live w/ on the DL. We just can't afford to go crazy w/ LTCs for defensive lineman right now.

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Byron Pringle headed to FA.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Packers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Packers</a> are also releasing OT Billy Turner, per source.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1503378980900335618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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The thing about Smith too is that he already came back from the injury and played, now he has the entire offseason off too.

The only two teams that I've seen linked to Smith is the Chiefs and Ravens.

The problem with back injuries is that they don't seem to ever truly go away.

That being said, I don't expect Smith to get much more than a 2-year deal, so it's probably not an issue.

That's fairly surprising. I didn't think he had much of a cap# and had been a solid, versatile OL for them.

Not sure what the market will bear for him, but he could be a guy who keeps a ceiling on Wylie a little bit.

He's definitely an upgrade over what we had

Well in all fairness.....that doesn't take much at this point.

And he already played for the Ravens once.

But can he do his job? Is he a mad man at setting the edge and sniffing out screens?

Because that's really what's important.

Whew, this squad is going to be different next year if the trends continue..

Potentially losing Darrel Williams, Pringle, Sorenson, Frank Clark, Mathieu, Ward, Hitchens, Demarcus Robinson. Anyone I'm missing? That is a metric **** ton of snaps.

From the minimal amount of Packers games that I watched the last couple of years....he at least looked like he was trying out there. Can't say the same for Frank Clark.

Was always going to be this way.

I think they had 26 pending UFAs. Many of them were the sort of depth guys you don't think about, but now they're starting to bubble to the surface.

This is why we can't go paying retail prices for 'name' players who are clearly past their primes.

The margin for error is pretty much gone. Get it right or we're going to struggle to hold off the Chargers for the West.

JC Jackson????

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He probably just hurt himself again.

Yep. Out of those listed the only ones I care about is Pringle and Ward

We badly needed this. Can't keep bringing back the same guys trying to replicate 2019.

You spelled Ward wrong.

lol I just updated my post to include him. those are the only two the rest can go I don't care

Pringle is fine, but I’ll never understand the infatuation that some have with him. Is it just the local connection?

If Pringle wanted to come back on a contract equal to a WR4....then sure. He's old though and I'd rather just get younger at that position.

Pringle can go, too.

He's not an "ascending" player as some people say. He's 28 years old. He is right now what he's always going to be.

I mean that and he was our 2nd best receiver. He would be great in a WR3 role with 2 established WR in front of him. We just didn't have that but he made the most of what he has.

Same thing with Darrel Williams. Dude isn't getting any better at this point.

Bills cut their RT

Is he worth a ****?

Bring him in Carl for looks

I am not infatuated with him but he is a solid WR and very good ST player. You need those type of guys.

I don't know about anyone else but I'm tired of this roster being filled with STs players because Toub wants them.

Correct.

The 'run it back' tour was wrongheaded in real time. It was proven to be a mistake even more when the additions to the team in 2021 made such massive contributions. That was the kind of kick-start we needed in 2020 as well. Instead we got a JAG runninback, Gay spent most of the season hurt, Niang opted out. And we didn't do anything in FA because we shot our wads bringing back chaff like Niemann and Sorensen.

So all we really added to that squad was Snead, Remmers and Dana. And not only was it evident in 2020, it just festered as 2021 came along.

The team needs significant roster turnover at this point. You've got about 10-12 guys that truly matter and the rest of them are pretty much fungible and can/should be replaced by younger and more dynamic versions.

Stasis is really bad for an NFL team. You have to be headed one direction or another. Even if you're headed down a tick, that's fine if there's a plan that will allow you to use it as a 'clear the books' year and jump ahead the following season.

But standing still is almost invariably the wrong decision.

I agree with this. I wasn’t specifically referring to you.

He’s fine, but absolutely replaceable. Some people act like he’s a core piece to the team or could be a star.

Far from it. He’s a 3/4 WR. He was our second best WR last year, but that’s more of a critique on the rest than it is a compliment to Pringle.

If he wants to come back dirt cheap, I’d welcome him. I don’t think he should though. He should go get every dollar he can.

They're awfully nice to have around...until they cost real money.

You build 'em, you don't buy 'em.

Pringle was a virtually free pickup who got better every year here and forged himself an NFL career. It's easy to see why people root for him. But now you can either retain him cheap or move along.

There's nothing gained by getting in a bidding war for his services.

Out with the old Daryl Williams, in with the new?

Pringle was fine for what he was. Wish him luck on screwing some team over for a big pay day. Just not here.

Bills wanted Williams back as a guard, he was terrible at tackle last year.

Chiefs interest in Cordarrelle Patterson lol

Not sure how much he would cost but I would take a shot at Sebastian Joseph-Day from the Rams.

If KC is looking to upgrade its RT spot in free agency, I'm not sure it's going to find a better value than La'el Collins.

That's the route I'd go if I'm Veach and I'm trying to upgrade at a bear-able cost.

Brown-Thuney-Humphrey-Smith-Collins would pretty easily be the best OL in the NFL. Not a single weak spot and honestly not that expensive due to the rookies.

I can't imagine Collins would cost a LOT in draft compensation.

What about signing Eric Fisher? Tell Orlando he gets his LT money but he can play RT this year. That would also work well if he was a team player (and I think he would be as he would be our long-term LT).

Good lord.

I heard some statistic that only one player drafted 25-50 over the last 15-20yrs had more than 8 sacks in his rookie season (Clay Matthews).

We need a pass rush, folks, and we're not going to be getting an immediate impact edge in the first round at 30.

If Smith is the opening move on Veach's chess board, so be it. Let's see how it all plays out but it's not like anyone can really question the thought process behind it.

You can't be serious.

This dumb shit never dies.

Why’s that funny?

If they use him in a role similar to the Falcons, it’s very intriguing.

Fisher looked good at left tackle last year. I would do a 1 year deal.

No to Fisher, no to Patterson. Fishers an old now, Pattersons an old and a flash in the pan one time in a decade for a terrible ****ing team.

To be fair, 7 sacks would be a dramatic improvement over what we have so if a rookie could give us that, it's probably worth it in the long run.

All in all, though I agree with you. Let the man work, he's armed and dangerous. Love me some Brett Veach.

jc jackson to the chargers

we are ****ed if they don't add a wr

It better be ****ing cheap. Like dirt cheap.

I'm all in on Patterson if the price is right.

No question - its hard to find guys that will finish plays.

But it's not terribly difficult to find guys in the draft that just make things difficult.

Kwity Paye is a perfect example. He had 'only' 4 sacks - less than that pile of suck Frank Clark. But he was extremely impactful. He was someone opponents had to pay attention to and he was still getting pressures/hits.

No, you can't count on a guy coming in and getting 10 sacks. But in the last 1st you can absolutely find someone that will run hot at make things difficult for the opponent and that may be enough to create pressure at other spots on the line as well.

Frankly, we need both. We need a viable veteran edge AND a fireplug rookie.

You're high.

More of the same shit but still.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Chiefs expected to move on from Frank Clark barring unexpected trade or restructure, Za&#39;Darius Smith, per league sources, is a potential replacement for Clark: <a href="https://t.co/i1QPRj5ygL">https://t.co/i1QPRj5ygL</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1503397028608491529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 14, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The guy many of us wanted last year only had 4 sacks but he was mega-disruptive for the Bills and even had an INT against us.

See this is just asinine.

I mean yeah, you sign Eric Fisher to play LT, but everyone knows that Brown moves inside to G. Then we can move Thuney over to RT after he did so well in relief vs. Cincy when Brown got hurt in warmups.

Gawd.

I agree with all of this. Definitely going to need to bring in at least 2 WR's since we only really have Hill, Hardman, Kemp. Not sure what they think of Fountain.

@AdamSchefter: Dolphins and Emmanuel Ogbah have reached agreement on a 4-year, $65 million deal that includes $32 million fully guaranteed at signing, per his agent @DrewJRosenhaus.

Oh shut the **** up.

Kemp is gone.

Yup. Rousseau is another good example.