And over the 2nd half of that season he averaged barely more than 200 YPG on a 24/10 TD/INT pace and threw for 6.4 yards/attempt. Then played an absolutely miserable game against the Rams in the post-season.

He ain't Rodgers. He ain't close.

Lock isn't going to even be a factor when this is all said an done.

I'm sure they gave up quite a bit more than what Washington was offering. It's going to be 2 firsts, 3 firsts, and/or some combination of decent players IN ADDITION to Lock.

Just seeing this. You gotta be ****ing kidding me.

Chiefs should flip the Seahawks a 2nd for Tyler Lockett

The last 2 games don't count because it goes against your argument. You're biased as **** just admit it dude.

Much less baggage? Wilson trade rumors have been going on longer than the Rodgers ones have.

Cowherd is saying it’s two 1s, two 2nds, and 3 players….HOLY SHIT.

You’re talking about a half versus multiple games.

I hope they completely ****ed their future for this deal and it sounds like they did.

Correct.

Let's not act like its coincidence that the trigger got pulled here within a half hour of the Rodgers news.

The Broncos made it clear which player they preferred.

Against the lions and 238 yards vs cardinals who had clinched already.

No, you’re just a ****ing moron.

So Lock and two other players. God I hope they gave up Surtain.

Yea there are a lot of people remembering Wilson from 5 years ago. Dude looks slightly above average now to me.

Then you have the diva attitude he has developed, good luck Denver.

Well if one of them is Lock, it's really just 2 players.

And I still think one of them has to be one of their TEs - Albert O and Fant are somewhat redundant.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More compensation for Seattle: Seahawks get back talented DL Shelby Harris, whom Denver considers a locker-room leader, along with QB Drew Lock...and multiple picks.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1501272433415892998?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yep, want to hear from him on this subject.

Wow... if you can't grow one, rent one

Russ is declining.

Would've been way more scared of Rodgers.

Meh. We got the GOAT going into his prime years. Not that worried.

Maybe longer but getting far less bad press. Rodgers is a lot more controversial figure, even if he's more targeted by the media.

Can't wait for all my fellow Raiders fans to weep about this.

It is whatever. The defense will need to step up.

Are you aware his coach’s offensive philosophy was from 1985 and his OL is among the worst in the league playing against Chandler Jones, Von Miller and Aaron Donald?

Pete Carroll is played out. His philosophy is from the Jurassic period

AFC West is must watch tv.


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Wilson is a HOF player and was a great QB. He's still very good but he is in decline.

Hopefully this makes Veach get aggressive in the FA market. Sign a top WR, score 40 points a game.

Enjoy the rivalry, we still win.

Wow. Shelby Harris was the best player on their team, other than maybe Justin Simmons. I'll be glad to see him gone.

Goddamn it.

Unless they sold the farm in a Ricky Williams type deal, it's probably a good deal for the Donks.

Why the hell can we not get the AFCE/AFCS of the last ****ING 20 ****ING YEARS, just for a little bit? Damn it.

**** Donk Forever.

PS: I hope Lock throws for like 6000 yards, rushes for 1500 and throws 45 TDs and wins the NFC next year. He won't, but I hope.

Excuses.

Same team from the first half of the season.

#broncos will also send DL Shelby Harris to Seattle as well per source.

Go back to wrapping your lips around Mecole Hardman’s cock.


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This gets better and better. Now maybe a little Marcus Mariotta as backup and call it a day.

I love our division pushing us. It ensures we don't get complacent.

Veach, Reid, Mahomes will need to keep elevating their game.

Can some of you reasonable fellows join me in the Raiders chat? They think Wilson now is the Wilson of 5 years ago.

ROFL
As well as the cap hit to go along with that.
Donk show has to pray they land some cheap free agents and hit in later rounds. The move makes them competitive, sure. But how much more is the question?
Wilson's regression last season is worrisome. He has always been a very streaky inconsistent qb. Let's see how this all unfolds.

That would be unfortunate.

Moron

Russell Wilson > Drew Lock


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The Wounded Duck?

Dude sucks. Despite what delusional Raiders thought.

English must not be your first language.

You said he "faded down the stretch"

Then I point out the last 2 games he three 7 touchdowns and 1 pick. That's not fading down the stretch. You then try and change the argument saying it doesn't count because those teams aren't good (even though the Cardinals made the playoffs) just come out and already say it dude. Only the Chiefs can make good moves. You even bashed the Chargers when they drafted Herbert

Apparently some here think so as well

He threw the ball 32 times/gm over the last two seasons and after average 8 yards per attempt through his prime, Wilson averaged 7.6 YPA the last 2 seasons.

With the same offensive philosophy. And in both years he was worse in the 2nd half than he was in the 1st. That's not a philosophy issue.

He's just played worse.

The cap hits are ****ing minimal for a QB.

This is a great point. 2 1sts, 2 2nds, Harris and another player? For Wilson... That's a HAUL.

Wilson is a good QB, really good. But...he's declining, he'll be the 3rd best QB in the division. Take away a few pieces on defense from them, and a few picks. Denver might stay the 3rd best team ... wait til we see the rest.

meh.

Why would "reasonable fellows" as you put it, want to post in the Raiders chat?

staylor26 doesn’t know shit about football.

He’s a moron.


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Denver is the second best team in the division with Wilson. At least next season. The Chargers still don't have a defense.

So basically what we did when we traded for Orlando Brown because we lost out on signing Trent Williams.

Sometimes the best moves are the moves you don't make . . . . .

Yeah, the cap hits are dick. That's actually part of the appeal of Wilson.

After the dead money hits the Seattle cap, the cap hits for Denver are $24 and $27 million. If Denver is smart, they'll use that flexibility to build an extension. They didn't give up this kind of capital for 2 years of Russ. You're pot-committed now.

So get him on a new 5 year deal that leverage those low cap hits to get you a nice discount over the length of the deal.

We can only hope.

I know, right? Goddamn it. Nothing good comes from the division being awesome. Even when ****head Elway was in he definitely suffered from a strong division.

I mean, there is a real chance he's well on his way to being washed. He's taken a ****ing mountain of hits the last few years and damaged his finger. The wheels could very easily come off. And then we can hope Herberts zits get infected and he dies of sepsis or something. I can stand Carr being the biggest competition in the division, but goddamn it....

It's pretty well known that he was trying to force his way out last year and quit when he got public pushback. He really hasn't been the same dude since he married that chick.

Broncos vs. Packers in the Super Bowl next year. Rematch from 1997.

If true, hate to see that guy go... but top tier QBs are harder to find than top DL.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The trade is for three players (one being Drew Lock) and two first rounders and two second rounders and a fifth for Russell Wilson and a fourth</p>&mdash; Jay Glazer (@JayGlazer) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/status/1501273583582019584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Williams is a far better LT than Brown and wouldn't have cost any picks

Well our game against the Seahawks this year just got a little bit easier.

Still waiting on that 3rd player.

Apparently you missed that we were comparing Wilson and Rodgers you ****ing moron.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Seahawks Receive:<br><br>1st Round Pick<br>1st Round Pick<br>2nd Round Pick<br>2nd Round Pick<br>5th Round Pick<br>Drew Lock<br>Shelby Harris<br>Noah Fant<br><br>Broncos Receive:<br><br>Russell Wilson<br>4th Round Pick</p>&mdash; Allan Bell (@AllanBell247) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllanBell247/status/1501274411671822336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Noah Fant is rumored to be the 3rd player…

Well you'd better hope that Wilson at least gets you one title out of this.

The problem with Seattle making this trade now is there is no certain pathway forward to replace Wilson at QB.

Weak QB draft this year.

No other veteran QB's realistically available for them to acquire/build around (unless they want to risk trading for Watson).

That’s a haul for the Hawks. They better hit on everyone of those picks or they are gonna suck for a decade.

is he still a virgin

I don't think he will. I still think Wilson is a damn good QB but he's the 3rd best in his division and you can argue he's 4th or 5th in the AFC

All depends on how much rope the front office has given Carroll. Add talent in the draft this year and find a rookie next year. I wouldn't be surprised if they grab a guy like Ridder at the end of the first or top of the second.

Elway just left for lunch smashed only to get more smashed

Trade details:

The #Broncos are trading two 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks, a 5th round pick, QB Drew Lock, DL Shelby Harris and another player.

#Seahawks are trading QB Russell Wilson and a 4th round pick.

You're ****ing slow.

Bless their heart.

Wilson makes them better today, but I’ll wager the trade makes them worse tomorrow.

Donks gave up a bunch to finish in 2nd place.

His guy is

Third best QB in the division but I think the Broncos have the slight edge over the Chargers for overall team now. They'll make the playoffs but I don't see them making it to the SB.

I'm assuming they have the 9th pick. They are in position for Malik Willis.

FYP

And the Raiders just keep on sticking with Carr.

Wonder if Wilson forces a new contract

Wow Noah Fant too. That’s more than the Stafford deal.

Noah Fant and two ones, twos and a fifth as well

Apparently some of you ****ing morons think saying that Russell Wilson isn’t Aaron Rodgers and that he’s fizzled out the last 2 seasons down the stretch means the trade sucks and Drew Lock is better.

Holy shit you are ****ing reeruned.

Wonder if they had there eye on someone they really like in this year's draft (as an eventual replacement for RW) and that is part of the reason they made the trade to get that Top 10 pick from Denver? Now they can go get their guy, if they want.

I know people think this is a weak QB class (and it may well be), but people were saying the same thing about the 2017 QB draft class right up until before the draft when Mahomes, Watson and Trubisky all started climbing up the rankings and mocks . . . . . . .

Fant included in the trade as well...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trade package:<br><br>Seattle gets QB Drew Lock, TE Noah Fant, DL Shelby Harris, two first-round picks, two second-round picks and a fifth-round pick.<br><br>Denver gets Russell Wilson and a fourth-round pick.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1501276050336014340?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>