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staylor26 12-17-2021 10:11 AM

He’s a stud and he’s going to be one of the league’s best MLBs.

Cheater5 12-17-2021 10:12 AM

Me want gifs of Bolton doing football things.


Please.

notorious 12-17-2021 10:15 AM

Many of us have been preaching about this guy for a while.

Kids a baller.

duncan_idaho 12-17-2021 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16017346)
Are we talking about him taking over for Hitchens? Why couldn't he do that starting next season?

I got my years mixed up. I meant 2022. I fully expect him to be the man in the middle next year, and hopefully last night proves to them that they can live with Gay or Bolton in the dime package.

Rainbarrel 12-17-2021 10:28 AM

Setting up the stops in LA
tipping the ball for Hitch to play

raybec 4 12-17-2021 10:32 AM

That hit he put on Mike Williams in the first quarter was a real tone setter. Williams had to leave the game for the rest of that series and didn't make another catch across the middle IIRC.

Direckshun 12-17-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16017406)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was expected that Bolton would have an uptick in snaps this week, getting nickel reps next to Hitchens in place of Gay.<br><br>It was a bit of a surprise to see him get *DIME* reps all night long. Kudos to him for stepping up into that role after barely playing it this year! <a href="https://t.co/Ag6PoBoCGY">https://t.co/Ag6PoBoCGY</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1471863492961607685?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow.

Ming the Merciless 12-17-2021 10:42 AM

Honestly, Nick Bolton gives me just as much of a rock hard boner as his cousin

Michael Bolton does.



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Hammock Parties 12-17-2021 10:49 AM

Nick Bolton now has 102 tackles.

The last Chiefs LB to do that was Derrick Johnson SIX YEARS AGO.

Dunerdr 12-17-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16017278)
This past draft looks like a big win for the team. 3 guys starting, all 3 playing at a super high level.

Plus notice how many snaps Noah Gray is getting now? He was seemingly on the field all the time last night. It's only a matter of time before he starts getting some targets.

I dont know if they are doing it to get him ready to spell Kelce and keep him fresh, or just trying to sharpen another weapon for the playoff run.

Direckshun 12-17-2021 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16017561)
Nick Bolton now has 102 tackles.

WHAT.

That may be the most amazing stat on this team this season.

How on earth is a part time LB racking up 100 tackles in 14 games?

Hammock Parties 12-17-2021 10:57 AM

I was wrong BTW. Hitchens had 135 in 2018.

Still.

wachashi 12-17-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16017258)

The best play was, in my opinion, the Niemann stop on 4th and goal.

He rose up and completely stymied the RB, and then somehow came away with the ball.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All this 4th down talk is distracting us from the fact that Joshua Kelley tried to jump over an unblocked defender with the ball stretched out from the 3-yard line <a href="https://t.co/q2Z787FZqk">pic.twitter.com/q2Z787FZqk</a></p>&mdash; Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1471838649310494722?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 12-17-2021 10:58 AM

He has played 62% of the snaps LMAO

blake5676 12-17-2021 10:59 AM

He's been so much fun to watch transitioning to the NFL after watching him stick out like a sore thumb on some pretty mediocre Mizzou defenses. And yeah, he doesn't have the elite speed that someone like Gay has but every team needs a thumper and we clearly have ours. His lack of speed and susceptibility against the pass was always going to be the knock on his game....but unless my bias is clouding my judgement he's no slower than Hitchens has become at this point in his career. That guy seems like he's wearing concrete shoes half the time.

DJ's left nut 12-17-2021 10:59 AM

We tried to tell y'all.

Mizzou fans are hard on our own guys and Bolton was one of the most universally respected players the Tigers have had in recent memory.

There was just no way this guy wasn't going to be a good football player. Now there's still a question as to whether or not his ultimate ceiling will be Marvcus Patton or London Fletcher (y'know, were London Fletcher not an immortal due to feeding on the blood of infants), but nobody will get more out of their talent on this roster than he will.

This kid can play football.

DJ's left nut 12-17-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 16017598)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All this 4th down talk is distracting us from the fact that Joshua Kelley tried to jump over an unblocked defender with the ball stretched out from the 3-yard line <a href="https://t.co/q2Z787FZqk">pic.twitter.com/q2Z787FZqk</a></p>&mdash; Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1471838649310494722?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Right?

What kind of rocket up his ass did he think he had? I guess maybe he was thinking it was 2nd down and any extra few feet he could get would set them up that much better on 3rd (and inevitably 4th) but.....nah, that dude just wasn't thinking at all.

Because that was duuuuuuuuumb.

Direckshun 12-17-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16017605)
We tried to tell y'all.

Mizzou fans are hard on our own guys and Bolton was one of the most universally respected players the Tigers have had in recent memory.

There was just no way this guy wasn't going to be a good football player. Now there's still a question as to whether or not his ultimate ceiling will be Marvcus Patton or London Fletcher (y'know, were London Fletcher not an immortal due to feeding on the blood of infants), but nobody will get more out of their talent on this roster than he will.

This kid can play football.

Not a super important question, but how would you rate his leadership capabilities?

I do think leadership on a defense is important, and our second level will need some with Hitchens eventually moving on.

Andy Reid described Bolton as a very quiet guy in his press conference. Which is fine, just wondering if that's something he brings to the table.

DJ's left nut 12-17-2021 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16017612)
Not a super important question, but how would you rate his leadership capabilities?

I do think leadership on a defense is important, and our second level will need some with Hitchens eventually moving on.

Andy Reid described Bolton as a very quiet guy in his press conference. Which is fine, just wondering if that's something he brings to the table.

Exceptional.

Let's not forget that when this defense was sucking the hind teat early in the season and Clark/Jones/Mathieu were ducking the press conferences, Bolton was out there front and center taking bullets for the team.

As a rookie and ostensible backup at that.

He's a heart and soul player in the DJ mold; not necessarily your rah rah Ray Lewis type, but a guy who's going to go out there with broken limbs if he can and set a tone for his unit.

I think he becomes the key emotional leader on this defense maybe as soon as next season. With Bolton in the LB corps, Snead in the secondary and Jones keeping it light on the DL, you've got some awfully good leadership on the defense going forward. Wouldn't hurt to have a red-ass in there somewhere but I really don't feel like paying a 30 year old safety $18 million/season into his decline years to get that.

RunKC 12-17-2021 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16017605)
We tried to tell y'all.

Mizzou fans are hard on our own guys and Bolton was one of the most universally respected players the Tigers have had in recent memory.

There was just no way this guy wasn't going to be a good football player. Now there's still a question as to whether or not his ultimate ceiling will be Marvcus Patton or London Fletcher (y'know, were London Fletcher not an immortal due to feeding on the blood of infants), but nobody will get more out of their talent on this roster than he will.

This kid can play football.

I didn’t like his coverage abilities and 3 cone but last night really showed that talent. He’s a legit top 10 LB next year IMO

htismaqe 12-17-2021 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16017631)
Exceptional.

Let's not forget that when this defense was sucking the hind teat early in the season and Clark/Jones/Mathieu were ducking the press conferences, Bolton was out there front and center taking bullets for the team.

As a rookie and ostensible backup at that.

He's a heart and soul player in the DJ mold; not necessarily your rah rah Ray Lewis type, but a guy who's going to go out there with broken limbs if he can and set a tone for his unit.

I think he becomes the key emotional leader on this defense maybe as soon as next season. With Bolton in the LB corps, Snead in the secondary and Jones keeping it light on the DL, you've got some awfully good leadership on the defense going forward. Wouldn't hurt to have a red-ass in there somewhere but I really don't feel like paying a 30 year old safety $18 million/season into his decline years to get that.

:bravo:

The guy is a natural leader and obviously grasps the defense well enough to make call adjustments.

He's almost ready. The defense is going to run through him next year.

scho63 12-17-2021 11:16 AM

He has been balls all out year. Incredible asset to our D

ChiefsCountry 12-17-2021 11:34 AM

Bolton was the best linebacker in the SEC. It's not surprising what he is doing.

MahomesMagic 12-17-2021 11:47 AM

I hated the pick but love to see him beating my expectations.

ToxSocks 12-17-2021 11:50 AM

Bolton and Gay should be an excellent duo for years to come. Both are complimenting Hitchens well at the moment.

We really missed Gay out there last night.

Hydrae 12-17-2021 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 16017252)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WATCH: Former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mizzou?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Mizzou</a> standout Nick Bolton continues to dominate in this Thursday Night Football game. He&#39;s been unbelievable! <a href="https://t.co/U2pHr98qRe">pic.twitter.com/U2pHr98qRe</a></p>&mdash; Andrew Kauffman (@AndrewABC17) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewABC17/status/1471681073306345473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Gotta love how many of his teammates were celebrating and congratulating him. What a TEAM!

Hammock Parties 12-17-2021 12:04 PM

What perfect coverage. They were determined to stop the slants.

golfindude 12-17-2021 12:37 PM

Who was the ''unblocked defender'' Kelly tried to jump over?

wachashi 12-17-2021 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfindude (Post 16017918)
Who was the ''unblocked defender'' Kelly tried to jump over?

Ben Niemann

Kiimo 12-17-2021 01:13 PM

I never disliked the pick because he went to MU, I disliked it because a ton of linebackers who don't have supreme athleticism fail in the NFL after dominating college. I was thinking he'd kind of wash out when put up against NFL tier athletes. Also because I really wanted Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah to fall to us. I can't believe that Bolton is better than JOK?


This is one of those times, like a Zach Thomas, where effort and heart and all those intangibles actually do work out.


Somebody finally got through to Spags to PLAY BOLTON ALL THE TIME PLEASE

Frazod 12-17-2021 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16017291)
That may be true but let's not pretend that people aren't homers about their school's players, as well.

As for me, I don't care where a player played in college. If he improves the Chiefs, then I'm happy. And Bolton is a huge upgrade. :thumb:

Not always. I remember when Denver drafted Lock, and the next day at work our resident Donx fan asked me what I thought of him (this was back before we won the Super Bowl and the butthurt ****ing bitch stopped talking to me). Anyway, I told her "I don't mind that Denver drafted him. That should tell you everything you need to know."

Pitt Gorilla 12-17-2021 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16017835)
What perfect coverage. They were determined to stop the slants.

Nick Bolton, Mike Williams, Jim Ross. Just sayin.

Pitt Gorilla 12-17-2021 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16018057)
Not always. I remember when Denver drafted Lock, and the next day at work our resident Donx fan asked me what I thought of him (this was back before we won the Super Bowl and the butthurt ****ing bitch stopped talking to me). Anyway, I told her "I don't mind that Denver drafted him. That should tell you everything you need to know."

I wanted Lock to be drafted high because he went to Mizzou. I did NOT want Lock as a Chief, because he just wasn't going to be that good (and, yes, I know we have the best ever).

I can't think of many, if any, Mizzou Fans who thought Lock would work out. Of course, I don't think any thought Gabbert would work out either.

I remember pimping guys like Maclin, Spoon, Golden, Ealy, Morse, and even Rountree (who I'd still love as a backup).

If anything, I think being from Mizzou makes Mizzou Fan a little hesitant to want them on the Chiefs.

Best22 12-17-2021 02:15 PM

I love him so much

beer bacon 12-17-2021 02:34 PM

Bolton was an exceptional three down, sideline to sideline LB against SEC offenses. He passed the eye test and also graded well in run defense, pass defense, and rushing the passer in college.

The talk about him being a two down LB and not athletic enough for the NFL was always an exaggeration. He ran Mizzou's defense. He's smart and will know his assignment. He's not the type of player that forgets his assignment nad lets an RB pick up an easy first down on a dump off. He has fantastic short area quickness, which for LBs is more important then straight line speed. He's the type of player that doesn't seem that close to the ball or ball carrier and then is just suddenly there hitting like a freight train.

Do you want him covering a wide receiver on a go route? No, but do you ever want an LB doing that? He crushed receivers going over the middle in college and he has the quickness and instincts to make a play once the ball is in the air. He got penalized in college for the hard hits you come to expect from him and separating receivers from the ball when they'd come over the middle. A WR would try to make over the middle, Bolton would fly in with a form tackle and separate the receiver from the ball. Bolton would then get a penalty because I guess you aren't supposed to hit that hard or with that good of timing when somebody is trying to make a catch in college football.

ThaVirus 12-17-2021 02:38 PM

I might have already posted in this thread, and I don't really give a shit. I will continue to post it anytime he's mentioned.

Dude is just a ****ing football player. Measurables are sexy, but I'll take a mother****er who just knows how to play football any day.

He's always around the ball and, possibly even more importantly, he makes tackles. I'm not exaggerating when I say he's probably the surest tackler this teams had since at least 2000.

There was a play in the open field he made on Ekeler last night. He got him around the upper shoulder pads. Ekeler did a little spin and I thought he was going to slip his way out of his grasp for more yardage, but Bolton's hands were like Velcro.

DJ's left nut 12-17-2021 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 16018057)
Not always. I remember when Denver drafted Lock, and the next day at work our resident Donx fan asked me what I thought of him (this was back before we won the Super Bowl and the butthurt ****ing bitch stopped talking to me). Anyway, I told her "I don't mind that Denver drafted him. That should tell you everything you need to know."

Yeah - someone doesn't quite understand the...uh....strained relationship Mizzou fans often have with their players.

NOBODY is harder on Mizzou players than Mizzou fans. So really, if you're getting a guy from MU that gets the kind of universal praise that Bolton gets, that's probably a pretty solid player.

Pitt Gorilla 12-17-2021 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 16018206)
Bolton was an exceptional three down, sideline to sideline LB against SEC offenses. He passed the eye test and also graded well in run defense, pass defense, and rushing the passer in college.

The talk about him being a two down LB and not athletic enough for the NFL was always an exaggeration. He ran Mizzou's defense. He's smart and will know his assignment. He's not the type of player that forgets his assignment nad lets an RB pick up an easy first down on a dump off. He has fantastic short area quickness, which for LBs is more important then straight line speed. He's the type of player that doesn't seem that close to the ball or ball carrier and then is just suddenly there hitting like a freight train.

Do you want him covering a wide receiver on a go route? No, but do you ever want an LB doing that? He crushed receivers going over the middle in college and he has the quickness and instincts to make a play once the ball is in the air. He got penalized in college for the hard hits you come to expect from him and separating receivers from the ball when they'd come over the middle. A WR would try to make over the middle, Bolton would fly in with a form tackle and separate the receiver from the ball. Bolton would then get a penalty because I guess you aren't supposed to hit that hard or with that good of timing when somebody is trying to make a catch in college football.

He WAS Mizzou's defense. Other than that, spot on.

staylor26 12-17-2021 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16018215)
I might have already posted in this thread, and I don't really give a shit. I will continue to post it anytime he's mentioned.

Dude is just a ****ing football player. Measurables are sexy, but I'll take a mother****er who just knows how to play football any day.

He's always around the ball and, possibly even more importantly, he makes tackles. I'm not exaggerating when I say he's probably the surest tackler this teams had since at least 2000.

There was a play in the open field he made on Ekeler last night. He got him around the upper shoulder pads. Ekeler did a little spin and I thought he was going to slip his way out of his grasp for more yardage, but Bolton's hands were like Velcro.

“YOU SHALL NOT PASS” - Lord Bolton

Frazod 12-17-2021 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16018152)
I wanted Lock to be drafted high because he went to Mizzou. I did NOT want Lock as a Chief, because he just wasn't going to be that good (and, yes, I know we have the best ever).

I can't think of many, if any, Mizzou Fans who thought Lock would work out. Of course, I don't think any thought Gabbert would work out either.

I remember pimping guys like Maclin, Spoon, Golden, Ealy, Morse, and even Rountree (who I'd still love as a backup).

If anything, I think being from Mizzou makes Mizzou Fan a little hesitant to want them on the Chiefs.

When Daniel was here I basically wanted Smith to suffer a season ending injury on every play so Daniel could get a chance to start for a prolonged period. I always thought that if he got a real shot he could make it as a starter. Then at some point I realized I was like Whitlock pining for Jeff George.

Iconic 12-17-2021 03:27 PM

Trey, Bolton, and Creed all in one draft. I grew skeptical of Veach's abilities on draft day but boy did he knock this bitch out the park. ****ing gems on top of gems

Yeah Bolton makes me enjoy watching the Chiefs on defense again. Love him.

O.city 12-17-2021 03:43 PM

He played well but they also got ass gashed against the run

Pitt Gorilla 12-17-2021 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16018369)
He played well but they also got ass gashed against the run

Yeah, why didn't Nick do MORE?

suzzer99 12-17-2021 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 16017598)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All this 4th down talk is distracting us from the fact that Joshua Kelley tried to jump over an unblocked defender with the ball stretched out from the 3-yard line <a href="https://t.co/q2Z787FZqk">pic.twitter.com/q2Z787FZqk</a></p>&mdash; Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Mike/status/1471838649310494722?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Same energy

suzzer99 12-17-2021 04:28 PM

The best part about Bolton is his football smarts, which you really need at the Mike.

If you watch the videos with Craig Stoudt, DJ and Mike DeVito - DeVito constantly talks about how important it was that DJ would remind guys about tendencies before the play and give constant guidance.

Direckshun 12-17-2021 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 16018434)

BAH GAWD THATS LITERALLY R KELLY’S MUSIC

Direckshun 12-17-2021 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 16018442)
The best part about Bolton is his football smarts, which you really need at the Mike.

If you watch the videos with Craig Stoudt, DJ and Mike DeVito - DeVito constantly talks about how important it was that DJ would remind guys about tendencies before the play and give constant guidance.

I love those videos.

The videos of Cassel breaking down Mahomes are pretty good, but DeVito and DJ with Stout are so much fun.

crispystl 12-17-2021 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=St. Patty's Fire;16016273]This guy had 4 rockets up his butt all night long. Dude was in the backfield almost every play. And this is our SECOND best young linebacker LMAO Going from Hitchens/Damien Wilson to Bolton/Gay in the blink of eye is so, so nice.[


The closing speed Gay has is just insane.

ThaVirus 12-17-2021 08:23 PM

I think Bolton is better than Gay right now, but Gay's ceiling is higher.

RealSNR 12-17-2021 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16018217)
Yeah - someone doesn't quite understand the...uh....strained relationship Mizzou fans often have with their players.

NOBODY is harder on Mizzou players than Mizzou fans. So really, if you're getting a guy from MU that gets the kind of universal praise that Bolton gets, that's probably a pretty solid player.

True, although Mizzou fans all told us to love Will Franklin when we drafted him...

And uhh... did that guy ever record a single goddamn reception for us? Legit wondering.

tredadda 12-17-2021 11:12 PM

Two things

1. I said it before, he is the second best rookie LB in the league. He would get more recognition if not for Parsons.

2. To think, we got Brown and Bolton for one first round pick, which allowed us to use our original 2nd for Creed. What an amazing use of assets.

RealSNR 12-17-2021 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 16018434)

Same energy as this, too, but closer to the actual result:

https://c.tenor.com/2dTzNmB2nrgAAAAM/dunk-fat.gif

Halfcan 12-17-2021 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 16017251)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> Nick Bolton comes up big, forced the ball out from Mike Williams, who heads to the medical tent after, shaken up. <br><br>Chargers recover the ball and take another shot at a TD. <a href="https://t.co/WLgX1QOHQp">pic.twitter.com/WLgX1QOHQp</a></p>&mdash; Hayley Lewis �� (@HayleyLewisKSHB) <a href="https://twitter.com/HayleyLewisKSHB/status/1471654121895870468?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:thumb: This was a tone setter. Nick was a one man wrecking machine last night.

JPH83 12-18-2021 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16018880)
Two things

1. I said it before, he is the second best rookie LB in the league. He would get more recognition if not for Parsons.

2. To think, we got Brown and Bolton for one first round pick, which allowed us to use our original 2nd for Creed. What an amazing use of assets.

I reckon 3rd behind JOK, who the Browns got as an absolute steal at that point in the draft. But Bolton's floor always looked really high and probably the safest bet there.

St. Patty's Fire 12-18-2021 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 16018450)
The closing speed Gay has is just insane.

Yeah, his ability to make plays on quick throws to the flat, screens, etc is absolutely ridiculous and is a big part of what makes our defense so insane overall when it’s healthy. With Gay and Bolton in the mix, we finally have playmakers at every single level of the defense. We used to get eaten alive on those flat type plays in the past (unsurprising when your LBs are Hitchens/Wilson/Niemann), now it’s a point of strength (when we’re healthy)

tritonman 12-18-2021 10:34 AM

If we can find an athletic hybrid big safety/ LB in draft to go with Gay and Bolton. We are set for years.

beer bacon 11-15-2022 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16018720)
I think Bolton is better than Gay right now, but Gay's ceiling is higher.

them boys know how to hunt

scho63 11-15-2022 05:59 AM

Lightning Bolt is a tackling machine

Bl00dyBizkitz 11-15-2022 06:35 AM

After years of whiffed tackles and no wrapping up from our defense, this guy is a dream. Love Nick Bolton.

Chris Meck 11-15-2022 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tritonman (Post 16019230)
If we can find an athletic hybrid big safety/ LB in draft to go with Gay and Bolton. We are set for years.

We already did.

tredadda 11-15-2022 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 16605164)
After years of whiffed tackles and no wrapping up from our defense, this guy is a dream. Love Nick Bolton.

Yup. He just rarely misses tackles. When he gets his arms around someone, they go down. Love that.

DJ's left nut 11-15-2022 09:34 AM

If the guy gets his hands on you, you're going to the ground.

There was a run where Etienne had the edge on him and Bolton kinda reached laterally and back as Etienne picked up steam around him - didn't matter. His hands just locked on and Etienne's momentum bulled Bolton's body around like a boat setting an anchor. Next thing you know a play that looks for all the world like a 7 yard gain went for 2.

The kid's just a damn tackling machine. I haven't seen one better in the league this year.

O.city 11-15-2022 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16605438)
If the guy gets his hands on you, you're going to the ground.

There was a run where Etienne had the edge on him and Bolton kinda reached laterally and back as Etienne picked up steam around him - didn't matter. His hands just locked on and Etienne's momentum bulled Bolton's body around like a boat setting an anchor. Next thing you know a play that looks for all the world like a 7 yard gain went for 2.

The kid's just a damn tackling machine. I haven't seen one better in the league this year.

As good as Bolton is and has been this year....anyone else notice Reid has missed quite a few tackles? What's up with that?

htismaqe 11-15-2022 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16605440)
As good as Bolton is and has been this year....anyone else notice Reid has missed quite a few tackles? What's up with that?

They've all had a few, even Sneed. My guess is they're still working a lot of things out on the back end with so many new pieces.

DJ's left nut 11-15-2022 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16605440)
As good as Bolton is and has been this year....anyone else notice Reid has missed quite a few tackles? What's up with that?

Ultimately we expected a "getting out of Houston" bounce that really hasn't happened.

This has kinda always been who Justin Reid is. A solid player, but someone who's seemingly less than the sum of his parts. He's fast as hell, he's physical and he's extremely smart.

But the guy's been in the league for 5 years now and he's mostly just been...decent. And that's what he's been here.

Oh, and obligatory "Fire the tackling coach!!"

I'd like to get more out of Reid than we're getting, but I don't think we necessarily NEED more. He's been okay.

Marcus Williams was the guy I really wanted and he's been better than Reid. But Williams has a deal that's effectively a 3 yr/$45 million deal with $15 million in dead money to follow. Do I want that contract over Reid's effective 2/$20 w/ $4 million in dead money? No, no I do not.

We paid 2nd tier FA safety money and got a 2nd tier FA safety. Aight - works for me.

O.city 11-15-2022 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16605465)
Ultimately we expected a "getting out of Houston" bounce that really hasn't happened.

This has kinda always been who Justin Reid is. A solid player, but someone who's seemingly less than the sum of his parts. He's fast as hell, he's physical and he's extremely smart.

But the guy's been in the league for 5 years now and he's mostly just been...decent. And that's what he's been here.

Oh, and obligatory "Fire the tackling coach!!"

I'd like to get more out of Reid than we're getting, but I don't think we necessarily NEED more. He's been okay.

Marcus Williams was the guy I really wanted and he's been better than Reid. But Williams has a deal that's effectively a 3 yr/$45 million deal with $15 million in dead money to follow. Do I want that contract over Reid's effective 2/$20 w/ $4 million in dead money? No, no I do not.

We paid 2nd tier FA safety money and got a 2nd tier FA safety. Aight - works for me.

That's true. He was just billed as a much better tackler than HB and thus far it's been a bit meh on that end.

He's missed a few open field opportunities on third down etc.

RunKC 11-15-2022 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16605465)
Ultimately we expected a "getting out of Houston" bounce that really hasn't happened.

This has kinda always been who Justin Reid is. A solid player, but someone who's seemingly less than the sum of his parts. He's fast as hell, he's physical and he's extremely smart.

But the guy's been in the league for 5 years now and he's mostly just been...decent. And that's what he's been here.

Oh, and obligatory "Fire the tackling coach!!"

I'd like to get more out of Reid than we're getting, but I don't think we necessarily NEED more. He's been okay.

Marcus Williams was the guy I really wanted and he's been better than Reid. But Williams has a deal that's effectively a 3 yr/$45 million deal with $15 million in dead money to follow. Do I want that contract over Reid's effective 2/$20 w/ $4 million in dead money? No, no I do not.

We paid 2nd tier FA safety money and got a 2nd tier FA safety. Aight - works for me.

Yeah I agree. He’s a pretty decent safety for the price. Same for MVS IMO

htismaqe 11-15-2022 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16605469)
That's true. He was just billed as a much better tackler than HB and thus far it's been a bit meh on that end.

He's missed a few open field opportunities on third down etc.

At least he's engaging the ball carrier. HB wouldn't even do that.

DJ's left nut 11-15-2022 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16605469)
That's true. He was just billed as a much better tackler than HB and thus far it's been a bit meh on that end.

He's missed a few open field opportunities on third down etc.

He's a more aggressive tackler than HB and that alone counts for something.

If a safety doesn't get a guy to the ground but at least hits him hard enough to slow him up, the rest of the team can rally to the ball and finish the play. It makes a bad play less bad.

HB out there making business decisions and taking himself out of plays was just completely unacceptable. Reid putting his nose in there and at least mucking up the works is definitely an upgrade there.

O.city 11-15-2022 09:56 AM

Oh yeah, he's definitely an upgrade there over HB all things considered. Was just saying I've noticed him miss a few open field tackles of late.

htismaqe 11-15-2022 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16605501)
Oh yeah, he's definitely an upgrade there over HB all things considered. Was just saying I've noticed him miss a few open field tackles of late.

They just faced two top 10 RB's in consecutive weeks. Like I said, lots of them missed tackles, including Sneed who is usually nails.

tredadda 11-15-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16605483)
At least he's engaging the ball carrier. HB wouldn't even do that.

And he can kick XPs and FGs in a pinch unlike HB.

KChiefs1 11-15-2022 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 16605164)
After years of whiffed tackles and no wrapping up from our defense, this guy is a dream. Love Nick Bolton.


When he hits…they go down.

R Clark 11-15-2022 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16605469)
That's true. He was just billed as a much better tackler than HB and thus far it's been a bit meh on that end.

He's missed a few open field opportunities on third down etc.

Even with missed tackles he’s better than HB , He’s not running around flailing his arms in the air looking like a rerun

raybec 4 11-15-2022 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16605701)
They just faced two top 10 RB's in consecutive weeks. Like I said, lots of them missed tackles, including Sneed who is usually nails.

I bet every DB in the league could be seen to miss tackles from time to time. I'm very happy with the upgraded play from last season.

Pitt Gorilla 11-15-2022 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16605465)
Ultimately we expected a "getting out of Houston" bounce that really hasn't happened.

This has kinda always been who Justin Reid is. A solid player, but someone who's seemingly less than the sum of his parts. He's fast as hell, he's physical and he's extremely smart.

But the guy's been in the league for 5 years now and he's mostly just been...decent. And that's what he's been here.

Oh, and obligatory "Fire the tackling coach!!"

I'd like to get more out of Reid than we're getting, but I don't think we necessarily NEED more. He's been okay.

Marcus Williams was the guy I really wanted and he's been better than Reid. But Williams has a deal that's effectively a 3 yr/$45 million deal with $15 million in dead money to follow. Do I want that contract over Reid's effective 2/$20 w/ $4 million in dead money? No, no I do not.

We paid 2nd tier FA safety money and got a 2nd tier FA safety. Aight - works for me.

I've been a bit disappointed in his play, but I'm not sure why I was expecting more. I'm certainly glad we didn't pay more than we did.

Pitt Gorilla 11-15-2022 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16018880)
Two things

1. I said it before, he is the second best rookie LB in the league. He would get more recognition if not for Parsons.

2. To think, we got Brown and Bolton for one first round pick, which allowed us to use our original 2nd for Creed. What an amazing use of assets.

People who think we lost that trade are dumb as ****.

ThaVirus 11-15-2022 04:20 PM

Not bad for a guy who's slow and undersized.

Scouting has to be such a tough job. It seems so much of it is entirely random.

NJChiefsFan 11-15-2022 07:43 PM

Glad you guys mentioned Reid. I'd been trying to sum up my opinion of him myself. It's hard when I am not seeing the all22s. Ultimately I'm where you guys are. He is good but has made his mistakes. Nothing amazing. Perhaps I was expecting more than I should have.

Ultimately I'll take him over HB 10 times out of 10 so mission accomplished.

notorious 11-15-2022 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16605438)
If the guy gets his hands on you, you're going to the ground.

There was a run where Etienne had the edge on him and Bolton kinda reached laterally and back as Etienne picked up steam around him - didn't matter. His hands just locked on and Etienne's momentum bulled Bolton's body around like a boat setting an anchor. Next thing you know a play that looks for all the world like a 7 yard gain went for 2.

The kid's just a damn tackling machine. I haven't seen one better in the league this year.

I haven't seen a better tackler on the Chiefs.....ever.


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