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BlackOp 11-11-2021 04:15 AM

https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/202...y-commercials/

Yay?...you mean the guy who dragged his ball-sack across the face of a female trainer...then used his family money/influence to get her fired has a contract with Vegas casinos?

Sounds about right...

Remember that one time...where Manning sent some goons to shake-down the guy who reported the HGH situation and threatened to ruin his career...kind of like that trainer in college?

I sure dont...no behavioral pattern of entitlement...that's a racist conspiracy theory. We all need a hero in troubled times...right?

I just want to enable and reinforce the worst aspects of the human condition....Go Ceasers Sportbook!!!!! THEY ARE NFL ROYALTY!!!! Gods amongst men...sometimes...when you are a God...you just have to smear your balls across the face of the plebs to remind them how rich your father is...kind of like Jesus but only more Satanic.

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Chief Roundup 11-11-2021 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15948126)
Buffalo certainly would but that’s just one owner. They can’t stop this kind of expansion if the majority want it.

With the talk, although likely not happening, of Buffalo relocating they might not complain.

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Mile High Mania 11-11-2021 07:23 AM

I just don't see it happening any time soon... not with Covid. Hell, if anything Covid likely pushes any sort of expansion out 5-10 years.

Toronto, London, San Antonio... St Louis. C'mon... sure London makes for some nice storylines, etc... but few give a damn about international games. And, you're not going to go into that part of the world and truly start attracting loyalty with soccer being so popular.

It's all pipedreams right now.

Deberg_1990 11-11-2021 07:25 AM

If this happens it will be time to introduce “Load Management” into the NFL.

carlos3652 11-11-2021 07:40 AM

I think we are getting closer to a relegation sport..

Have a premier football league, and a championship football league.

20 teams in the top tier. 4 regional divisions of 5 teams. Top 2 in each divisions go to playoffs bottom team relegates to bottom league.
16 teams in the bottom. 4 regional division of 4 teams. Division Winners move up.

Introduce a Cup where all 36 teams play a playoff style tournament.

Premier :
Home and Away games in division 8 games
Play 1 other alternating divisions per year, 5 games
Play vs the Same seed of the other 2 from year prior. 2 games.
15 regular season games total.
Tournament - you technically at most would play at minimum 1 and at most 4 games.

Championship. Same structure but instead of 1 division you play 2 alternating
6 games home / away in division
8 games for 2 other divisions
1 game same seed from the other
15 games
�� profit and would let shitty teams be where they belong and you watch the best football all the time.

oldman 11-11-2021 07:49 AM

If the owners want it, they're going to have to give some concessions to the NFLPA and the fans. First, expand the rosters to 55 or 57 players. Keep the cap to the top 51 or raise the cap $1.5M per player. Second, give an extra bye week. Nobody wants to see Chad Henne QB the Chiefs (possible exception, Chad's family).

As to the cities, keep them all in the US. St. Louis would be about the only city no one would bitch about. Jones would have a fit if a team was allocated to San Antonio. Buffalo and probably 3 of the 4 teams in the NFC North would have problems with Canadian cities. Seattle would probably do a Jerruh about Portland. You'd have the same problems with Honolulu as you would with London (time zones and travel). You'd have to have a dome in Anchorage. There just aren't enough cities that realistically could support a NFL team.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-11-2021 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 15948338)
I think we are getting closer to a relegation sport..

Have a premier football league, and a championship football league.

20 teams in the top tier. 4 regional divisions of 5 teams. Top 2 in each divisions go to playoffs bottom team relegates to bottom league.
16 teams in the bottom. 4 regional division of 4 teams. Division Winners move up.

Introduce a Cup where all 36 teams play a playoff style tournament.

Premier :
Home and Away games in division 8 games
Play 1 other alternating divisions per year, 5 games
Play vs the Same seed of the other 2 from year prior. 2 games.
15 regular season games total.
Tournament - you technically at most would play at minimum 1 and at most 4 games.

Championship. Same structure but instead of 1 division you play 2 alternating
6 games home / away in division
8 games for 2 other divisions
1 game same seed from the other
15 games
�� profit and would let shitty teams be where they belong and you watch the best football all the time.

That sounds ****ing horrible. This isn't soccer.

oldman 11-11-2021 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 15948402)
That sounds ****ing horrible. This isn't soccer.

I agree. What happens when a top tier team loses their star QB for the season or when they're in a slump? It's not NFL football. The lower tier teams are basically relegated to a minor league and won't draw the ad revenue, fan support, and merch money. Look at our Chiefs and the QB merry-go-round before Alex Smith and the diasters of Herm, Romeo, and Todd.

Spott 11-11-2021 09:04 AM

I doubt the NFL wants to mimic the least popular sport in the United States in an effort to grow the sport.

carlos3652 11-11-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 15948423)
I agree. What happens when a top tier team loses their star QB for the season or when they're in a slump? It's not NFL football. The lower tier teams are basically relegated to a minor league and won't draw the ad revenue, fan support, and merch money. Look at our Chiefs and the QB merry-go-round before Alex Smith and the diasters of Herm, Romeo, and Todd.

Its not a minor league... But I agree the NFL is not ready for this. MLS needs to do this first.

carlos3652 11-11-2021 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 15948459)
I doubt the NFL wants to mimic the least popular sport in the United States in an effort to grow the sport.

Not True, its more popular than Ice Hockey and on par with Baseball per recent surveys.

American Football 37%
Basketball 11%
Baseball 9%
Soccer 7%
Ice Hockey 4%

carlos3652 11-11-2021 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 15948402)
That sounds ****ing horrible. This isn't soccer.

I dont think its horrible, its just not built this way, and the USA has a certain way of doing things.

That being said, the NFL is not broke, so why fix it?

DaFace 11-11-2021 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlos3652 (Post 15948467)
Not True, its more popular than Ice Hockey and on par with Baseball per recent surveys.

American Football 37%
Basketball 11%
Baseball 9%
Soccer 7%
Ice Hockey 4%

What metric is that? "More popular" can mean a million things.

carlos3652 11-11-2021 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15948525)
What metric is that? "More popular" can mean a million things.

Thats the metric he used. I googled and the first thing that popped up is what I used. Maybe that was wrong on my part but his "least popular sport in the US" was very vague so I did vague research lol

carlos3652 11-11-2021 11:21 AM

I hope people knew I was being ridiculous - I did it from mobile and my smilie appeared as 2 question marks .. Im impressed people knew that it was soccer related to begin with.


Why anyone would change the structure of the best sport in the US.. the most entertaining, and the one that doesnt dilute the playoffs with trash teams... is beyond my comprehension.

I get the money aspect, but at some point, greediness will dilute the product and ruin what people love about the sport.

GloucesterChief 11-11-2021 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 15948356)
If the owners want it, they're going to have to give some concessions to the NFLPA and the fans. First, expand the rosters to 55 or 57 players. Keep the cap to the top 51 or raise the cap $1.5M per player. Second, give an extra bye week. Nobody wants to see Chad Henne QB the Chiefs (possible exception, Chad's family).

As to the cities, keep them all in the US. St. Louis would be about the only city no one would bitch about. Jones would have a fit if a team was allocated to San Antonio. Buffalo and probably 3 of the 4 teams in the NFC North would have problems with Canadian cities. Seattle would probably do a Jerruh about Portland. You'd have the same problems with Honolulu as you would with London (time zones and travel). You'd have to have a dome in Anchorage. There just aren't enough cities that realistically could support a NFL team.

San Diego, North Bay Area/Sacramento, St. Louis, and Norfolk/Hampton Roads are all viable.

Hammock Parties 11-11-2021 11:46 AM

I'm fine with it, but you better not let anyone breathe on the QB if the ball isn't in his hand, and going low on any player results in an ejection.

oldman 11-11-2021 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 15948686)
San Diego, North Bay Area/Sacramento, St. Louis, and Norfolk/Hampton Roads are all viable.

They just moved a team out of SD because the taxpayers wouldn't pay for a new stadium. Sacramento is 2 1/2 hours from Santa Clara, so I don't see that as a viable oprion. Norfolk is too close to Washington for Dan Synder's comfort. St. Louis is the only possible city.

Gravedigger 11-11-2021 03:30 PM

Yeah because we need more Bengals, Browns, Chargers, Jaguars and Panthers.

Spott 11-11-2021 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 15948525)
What metric is that? "More popular" can mean a million things.

I googled most popular professional sport in the US. As far as viewership, soccer was below the 4 major professional team sports. One site combined viewership with the amount of people that played the sport, which put soccer above hockey. I’m guessing that there’s not a lot of Americans south of Michigan, Wisconsin, etc. that have ever played hockey.

KChiefs1 11-11-2021 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 15947681)
May as well go the NHL route and have teams in Calgary, Edmonton, Toronto, and Winnipeg. All in due time of course. Let's not get too greedy just yet.


I bet the NFL has some sorta agreement with the CFL to not do that.


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GloucesterChief 11-11-2021 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 15949049)
They just moved a team out of SD because the taxpayers wouldn't pay for a new stadium. Sacramento is 2 1/2 hours from Santa Clara, so I don't see that as a viable oprion. Norfolk is too close to Washington for Dan Synder's comfort. St. Louis is the only possible city.

Because Spanos torpedoed any goodwill in San Diego. It might be 2 and a half hours by car with no traffic but reality is far different. Norfolk is more than 4 and a half hours away from DC and farther from Landover. I know, I drove back and forth from those areas many times.

DaFace 11-11-2021 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 15949064)
I googled most popular professional sport in the US. As far as viewership, soccer was below the 4 major professional team sports. One site combined viewership with the amount of people that played the sport, which put soccer above hockey. I’m guessing that there’s not a lot of Americans south of Michigan, Wisconsin, etc. that have ever played hockey.

Yeah, it's really tough to come up with a ranking that covers all of the different angles. Just spitballing, you could rank a sport's popularity in terms of:
  • Percent who are currently active participants
  • Percent who have ever actively participated
  • Attendance at games (K-12, college, or pro - all different)
  • TV viewership
  • Ticket revenue
  • TV revenue
  • Opinion based - forced ranking (e.g., which is your favorite?)
  • Opinion based - all that apply (e.g., which do you like?)

I'm sure there are plenty more. It just doesn't make a ton of sense to throw out percentages in a vacuum when we don't know what they mean.

RunKC 09-16-2024 05:21 PM

Puka : IR
CMC : IR
Pacheco : Fractured Leg
Tagovailoa : Concussion
Jefferson : Knee
Kupp : Ankle
Jordan Love : Knee
Addison : Ankle
David Njoku : Ankle
Walker : Week-Week
Mostert : Chest
Higgins : Hamstring
Ferguson : Knee
Keenan : Heel
Engram : Hamstring
Deebo: Calf
McGlinchey: MCL

Good ****ing luck running 18 games. This is after 2 freaking weeks

Rain Man 09-16-2024 06:46 PM

I don't need more games at all and prefer not to lengthen the season. But if they want to do so, I'd be intrigued by a new rule that teams play an 18-game season and players are only allowed to play 15 or 16 games. It would add a new level of strategy about who gets rested and when. It would probably add competition because the strong teams would likely rest their stars against the weakest teams.

The strategy would be really cool. You probably wouldn't want to rest players too early in the season, because ideally you'll hold their individual byes for if they get injured. But if you wait too late, you might end up having to rest players in critical games with playoff implications. And how many starters can you rest against a team like the Panthers or Patriots before you're taking an unacceptable risk of a loss?

IowaHawkeyeChief 09-16-2024 06:54 PM

It's really going to suck having to draft 36th every year...

Valiant 09-16-2024 08:49 PM

I think sn extra game and 4 more teams is dumb.

But greed always wins.

Personally I want to see federal legislation if cities or counties pay for stadiums they get the percentage of money for tickets sold. You pay 6 billion for a 7 billion stadium. You get ⁸³ percent or whatever it is of the ticket cost.

For new teams. Ir would probably be all European.

Mecca 09-16-2024 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17688665)
Puka : IR
CMC : IR
Pacheco : Fractured Leg
Tagovailoa : Concussion
Jefferson : Knee
Kupp : Ankle
Jordan Love : Knee
Addison : Ankle
David Njoku : Ankle
Walker : Week-Week
Mostert : Chest
Higgins : Hamstring
Ferguson : Knee
Keenan : Heel
Engram : Hamstring
Deebo: Calf
McGlinchey: MCL

Good ****ing luck running 18 games. This is after 2 freaking weeks

Are you under the impression that they give a ****?

Chief Pagan 09-16-2024 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17688832)
I don't need more games at all and prefer not to lengthen the season. But if they want to do so, I'd be intrigued by a new rule that teams play an 18-game season and players are only allowed to play 15 or 16 games. It would add a new level of strategy about who gets rested and when. It would probably add competition because the strong teams would likely rest their stars against the weakest teams.

The strategy would be really cool. You probably wouldn't want to rest players too early in the season, because ideally you'll hold their individual byes for if they get injured. But if you wait too late, you might end up having to rest players in critical games with playoff implications. And how many starters can you rest against a team like the Panthers or Patriots before you're taking an unacceptable risk of a loss?

You rest all your stars against a non conference team late and just take the loss.

Or you get a backdoor agreement to play your second string against their second string.

ThaVirus 09-17-2024 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17688832)
I don't need more games at all and prefer not to lengthen the season. But if they want to do so, I'd be intrigued by a new rule that teams play an 18-game season and players are only allowed to play 15 or 16 games. It would add a new level of strategy about who gets rested and when. It would probably add competition because the strong teams would likely rest their stars against the weakest teams.

The strategy would be really cool. You probably wouldn't want to rest players too early in the season, because ideally you'll hold their individual byes for if they get injured. But if you wait too late, you might end up having to rest players in critical games with playoff implications. And how many starters can you rest against a team like the Panthers or Patriots before you're taking an unacceptable risk of a loss?

Then I’d be forced to watch meaningful Chiefs games without Mahomes at QB and I don’t like that at all

In58men 09-17-2024 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17689151)
Are you under the impression that they give a ****?

ROFL

Bro doesn’t know how businesses are ran lol.

ThrobProng 09-17-2024 07:15 AM

London? Might as well put a team on the ****ing Moon.

myselff77 09-17-2024 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 15947723)
Gentleman's agreement with the CFL. NFL doesn't expand into Canada and CFL doesn't expand into the US.

Just a matter of time then. I assume it's the same gentleman's agreement it had with the NBA over Christmas day games.

notorious 09-17-2024 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17689337)
You rest all your stars against a non conference team late and just take the loss.

Or you get a backdoor agreement to play your second string against their second string.

I think it would be more of a mix.

Not straight-up 1st team/2nd team. A rotation.

Red Dawg 09-17-2024 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheater5 (Post 15947623)
I’m no Mark Cuban ball washer, but his prediction from a few years back regarding the NFL imploding within 10 years may come true.

NBA already did. They went woke with Marks stupid ass and lost billions.

PatMahomesIsGod 09-17-2024 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17689402)
ROFL

Bro doesn’t know how businesses are ran lol.

Everyone knows how late stage capitalism operates. Eternal growth. Like cancer.

We don’t have to like it, though.

RealSNR 09-17-2024 09:04 AM

You’re essentially adding two weeks to the season. I don’t see how the NFLPA would go for this without a 2nd bye week.

Mecca 09-17-2024 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17689598)
You’re essentially adding two weeks to the season. I don’t see how the NFLPA would go for this without a 2nd bye week.

Oh they'll get that second bye, that extends the season so now you are at a 20 week regular season.

All they'll have to do is tell the players the cap is increasing x amount.

Mecca 09-17-2024 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod (Post 17689529)
Everyone knows how late stage capitalism operates. Eternal growth. Like cancer.

We don’t have to like it, though.

Bro I was told on this very forum that Late Stage Capitalism is a myth.

RedinTexas 09-17-2024 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17689447)
London? Might as well put a team on the ****ing Moon.

London is a HUGE city and between the Brits that like American football and American servicemen, and ex-pats, a team in London would draw plenty of interest.

The problem is the travel. I'm not sure they could make it work without at least an entire division in Europe. I think I read something a while back about the return of supersonic air service to Europe. That might make it workable, but still the travel to and from the west coast to Europe would be brutal.

Mecca 09-17-2024 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17689614)
London is a HUGE city and between the Brits that like American football and American servicemen, and ex-pats, a team in London would draw plenty of interest.

The problem is the travel. I'm not sure they could make it work without at least an entire division in Europe. I think I read something a while back about the return of supersonic air service to Europe. That might make it workable, but still the travel to and from the west coast to Europe would be brutal.

Which is how you make 2 byes work...


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