When does Melivn Ingram sign with KC?

I was thinking that. Makes so much sense now.

Think we go CB, LB or WR with our second round picks now.

Could be a centre if Dickerson falls but can't really see anything else happening.

If we get an edge it will be a massive reach.

In response to the last question, around the 10:30 mark, Veach says anything but QB is in play today.

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Baker is a baller and has #1 corner written all over him. That was a godsend that we got him. He won't be going anywhere. Him and Sneed are the new Ronnie Lott- Eric Wright- but younger.

I'll still take another guy but those 2 are money and Ward is gonna get resigned. We'll have the money.

For this draft give me (if we're just wishing and hoping) Christian Barramore and JOK. Best 2 defenders left.

That was a great pickup. Bengals can still get another lineman today. They have decent tackles, they need IOL. Chase will do well. I'm looking forward to drafting him in my dynasty.

58. Elijah Molden CB, Washington
63. Jabril Cox LB, LSU

I keep coming back to Nico Collins. He married down at Michigan. They never could use him the way he needed to show off his traits. I think he could be a great option for us.

But honestly, I'm good with almost anything...two best players, trade down, trade up, etc.

I feel bad for his wife now, i bet shes constantly self doubting, what a terrible life.

Terrace Marshall Jr., Landon Dickerson, or Tyson Campbell

Dynami Brown and Kelvin Joseph

If we get those 2 then holy shit

I'm praying we get Marshall.

Give me Perkins and Humphrey

ESPN has us taking Ronnie Perkins, DE, and Rondale Moore, WR.

Would prefer Basham or Cox, but love the Moore pick!

I'm not big on perkins really would prefer boogie but he will probably go early second.

Did you watch him play? He was inconsistent and at times, downright awful.

If he were a "baller" they wouldn't have basically gave him a "prove it" contract.

You can't depend on Baker.

And if Ward gets what the market usually sets for FA CB's, we'd be better off letting him go, just like we did with Nelson.

We need more corners. We absolutely do.

Five players to consider in Round 2

DE Dayo Odeyingbo, Vanderbilt: Still in need of a defensive end, the Chiefs can add a versatile pass rusher in Odeyingbo. In his four years at Vanderbilt, Odeyingbo recorded 31 tackles for loss, 12 sacks, one interception, two fumble recoveries and one forced fumble. He is the 11th-best defensive end, according to The Athletic draft analyst Dane Brugler.

OC Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma: In my mind, Humphrey is the best center left on the board. The Chiefs could select him and have him compete against six-year veteran Austin Blythe for the starting role. If Blythe wins the job in training camp, Humphrey can develop behind the scenes before taking over that spot on the offensive line in 2022.

LB Nick Bolton, Missouri: The Chiefs need another athletic linebacker, and Bolton would add more sideline-to-sideline speed for Steve Spagnuolo’s defense. Last season, Davis led the Tigers with 95 tackles, 15 pass breakups and two interceptions. He is perhaps the most well-rounded linebacker left on the board.

CB Asante Samuel Jr., Florida State: One of the smoothest cornerbacks in the draft, Samuel, whose father played in the league, could have a smooth transition into the Chiefs’ defense. The Chiefs love mixing their coverages, and Samuel is talented enough to be effective in press, man-to-man coverage or in zone. He can also be a starter on the perimeter or as the nickel.

DE Carlos Basham, Wake Forest: If Odeyingbo is off the board, then the Chiefs can turn their attention to Basham, the seventh-ranked defensive end. In his last 20 college games, Basham recorded 16 sacks. Basham’s talent and production should make him a better selection than Breeland Speaks and Tanoh Kpassagnon, two former second-round picks for the Chiefs who never became consistent contributors.



Five players for Round 3

TE Brevin Jordan, Florida: The Chiefs really should consider Jordan, who can help Andy Reid’s offense be dynamic in a different way by having two tight ends on the field more often. Last season, Jordan recorded 38 receptions for 576 yards and seven touchdowns.

TE Tommy Tremble, Notre Dame: A more balanced tight end, Tremble can show his strength blocking a linebacker and his athleticism catching a pass in the middle of the field. The last time the Chiefs selected a tight end in the third round or higher was in 2013, when the team acquired Kelce with the 63rd pick.

CB Zech McPhearson, Texas Tech: One of the rising prospects in the draft, McPhearson can contribute to the Chiefs, whether it’s in sub-packages or on special teams. In 10 games last season, he recorded 10 pass breakups and four interceptions for the Red Raiders.

WR Tylan Wallace, Oklahoma State: As an all-around receiver, Wallace has speed, running the 40-yard dash in 4.49 seconds. His production was consistent in college, too, as he recorded 3,434 receiving yards and 26 touchdowns during his time at Oklahoma State. Brugler projects Wallace to be a starter if his right knee (repaired from a torn ACL in November 2019) is healthy.

OT Stone Forsythe, Florida: Selecting Forsythe could be a valuable pick in future years for the Chiefs. Although he wouldn’t be expected to start in the upcoming season, Forsythe can develop into the Chiefs’ top swing tackle. Known for his strength, Forsythe is athletic enough to succeed in the NFL when pass protection or blocking a smaller defender on a screen pass.

Rondale Moore?

Good grief no.

What is everybody's infatuation with injured players?

We don't need a guy with chronic hamstring issues anymore than we need an IOL with bum legs.

Did we learn nothing last year? Did we learn nothing from Dee Ford?

We have SO many options with 2 picks tonight. Taking guys with those kinds of injury histories would be such a ****ing waste.

Brevin Jordan played at Miami, not Florida.

Nick Bolton's name is not "Davis" either. ;)

Nate Taylor is no Terez Paylor.

I'd still take him over JAGami Brown.

Dayo Odeyingbo is an excellent player but he just tore his Achilles in January. He’s gonna have to redshirt this year.

I would not take him today. Would be amazing if we could get him in rd 4 though.

No ****ing way.

Injuries like that are non-starters.

Yep.

I feel like Creed Humphrey is a pick we'd be "meh" over, then in 3 years when he's the best C in the NFL we'd be happyh.

Bring me any two of these guys:

Basham EDGE,
Jones II EDGE,
Marshall WR,
Wallace WR,
Moore WR,
Eskridge WR,
Brown WR,
Humphrey OC,
Dickerson OC,
Mienez OC,
Little OL,
Cox LB,
Bolton LB,
Surratt LB,
Koonce LB,
Samuel CB.

Dyami is much more polished than Moore. And has had better production, plus he can play outside and inside. Moore is a slot guy with injury concerns.

I don't think he makes it out of the first 10 or so picks but if he should fall to us, we should run that card to the podium.

I'm not sure anybody here that really follows the draft would think it's a meh pick. The guy is legit and it's the 2nd round, not the first.

He also played in a system that has produced some REALLY good players recently, including two 2nd round WR's that are well above average.

I'd prefer Seth Williams but with Rondale he is great if healthy.

I don't see anything but eh from Dyami.

I really want a WR, but pretty much all of these guys scare me a bit.

Seems like most are either really small or injury prone.

I was hoping Bateman would fall enough for us to move up. Of course, the Ravens always seem to draft well.

Yeah that would be a pretty solid pick at this position

Yes on all accounts. If he's there, take him.

Just saying in general, fans are always meh on the OL.

But if you plug him in with the current group, thats a top 3 OL in the league if things pan out.

We passed on Terry McLaurin for Mecole so if we take a WR I hope we get someone that can play the position better.

Here are some high ceiling type players I think are on our board:

Creed Humphrey
Dillon Radunz
Kelvin Joseph
Aaron Robinson
Josh Myers
Jabril Cox

Ossai had amazing vertical and broad jump but is he too small? Same with Perkins. A little light and liabilities against the run? Also didn’t put Anthony Schwartz bc he’s fast but not a route runner. He’s Mecole.

These 2 guys aren’t extremely high ceiling but I would love them. Tommy Tremble and Amon Ra-St Brown. They are just well balanced guys who do everything well

Not sure what you were watching. The guy compares favorably to other Phil Longo-coached WR's, a couple of whom are now top tier NFL WR's.

Rondale hasn't been the same explosive player for 2+ years. That's just too tough a sell for me.

I think Humphrey goes quick in the second, but there is a close to 0% chance Creed Humphrey makes it past the #55/#56/#57 gauntlet (Steelers, Rams, and Seahawks). All three of those teams arguably have Center as their top remaining need. If he's there, id be ecstatic with Creed becoming a Chief... But he's on my list of "don't think about, won't be there" with guys like JOK.

Yep.

We don’t have a 3rd round pick.

ROFL

I think this article has taken enough of a beating now.

I would gladly give up a 4th or 5th to move ahead of that group to land Humphrey. That should be enough to move up 4 spots in the second, right?

STOP DRAFTING SMALL AND BROKEDICK WRs.

If he gets to say 53, yeah I'd flip one of our 5ths if that woudl do it.

Any chance Terrace Marshall Jr is there for us at #58? I think he'd be a great fit.

Wonder if Veach will try to switch around picks like he did in his first draft?

Mayb try to trade up 10 spots for his guy and give a team 58 and switch 63 with their 3rd so we don’t lose a pick

Injury concerns on him.

Depends who is there. I prefer Seth but Rondale fits our type.

Yeah, which is why we need something different. We don't need another of that "type" as much as we need an outside guy. Plus, we need a guy that doesn't have hamstring concerns.

I really need to learn how to do the shake head emoji.

Just put a colon, the "shake", then another colon.

:shake:

Like **** he does.

5-9" WR's aren't the Chiefs "type".

Although I prefer this one...

:rolleyes:

ROFL

:shake:

There are about 5-6 WRs who Id rather have over Elijah or Rondale.

**** those two tiny ass WRs.

They have to go DE in the 2nd round.
The roster at DE might be one of the worst in the league. (Counting Jones as a DT)

They don’t HAVE to do anything. Forcing a pick means you get a guy like Breeland Speaks.

Draft a DE if there is one there that you like. If not, grab one later if there is one and sign Ingram after the draft.

Yup I think they know that and will try to trade up for someone like Ossai or Basham.

DE could get really thin at the mid 2nd

Yep.

And there's a decent chance the value at DE is very thin by the time we pick. It would be a bad idea to force it when there will likely be good value at WR, IOL, CB, and LB.

We still have Ingram that we could bring in.

It depends on how far someone falls. Trading up into the first 10 or so picks is going to be difficult without trading next year's picks, which would not be ideal.

Or Spags and our staff are a difference maker but know we need to move up to get him. Trade up for 58 and a 63/3rd rd swap so we still have a 3rd and can get value at IOL, corner or WR

This. As much as I would want a stud at WR or someone to take over at DE once we kick Clark to the curb next year, don’t force it. Take the best available talent. IMO a 2nd round pick should be able to compete for a starting role by year end, and we have two such picks. Play your cards right and you can get a talented player who fell like Thornhill. Reach and you end up with crap like Speaks.

If DE isn’t added we can sign Ingram (although the depth chart looks horrendous there for 2022).

If CB doesn’t work sign Breeland or another of the available cornerbacks.

WR seems to be the main position where there’s really not much available, so if we can’t get one in the draft we’re probably stuck with what we have. Watkins was injured so often though that they’re pretty used to that by now.

I would rather they double up on DE later in the draft instead of reaching for one in the 2nd because they feel that they have to.

Ingram can’t be relied on at age 32 coming off injuries. They should sign him anyway for depth and rotation like they did with Suggs, but to hope he’s a starterFor 16 is a stretch.

KC can't possibly start the season with Hardman as WR2...right?

This is Brett ****ing Veach. 5 trades in 3 years. All traded UP.

We didn’t have a 1st. I would bet they’re looking for a top guy on their board, DE or another position.

Doesn’t mean we are giving up a pick to move up

Let’s get that Center!

Unless it’s Humphrey or Meinerz....I don’t want them drafting a center high.

Sure, why not?

Time for Hardman to shit or get off the pot.

More likely though that Pringle or Robinson start outside and Hardman remains in the slot.

I feel like adding a Center like Humphrey makes our O line completely overhauled and a TOP line in the league.

This to me is THE priority. Adding an edge is important but we can get by with a FA, same with CB.

We could absolutely SOLVE one of our most important weakness or add a rotational player to the defense.

I say Get that center and feel good about having the Oline Patrick deserves in front of him. Then go BPA or WR if they really feel like thats the next hole.

And forcing the pick and taking another Speaks or Kpass in the 2nd is any better?

I agree that that Hardman needs to produce or GTFO, but defenses aren't going to respect JAGs like Pringle and Robinson.

I like the 2 picks in the 2nd, so I'd sit tight and see what happens. Go BPA.

Dyami Brown and Tommy Tremble.

Let’s just put up 50 burgers every week. Sit all starters 4th QTR.

If Patrick has a little more time in the pocket. That immediately improves our WRs. Respect will be earned. Guaranteed!

When will people understand that forcing a pick based on need is a terrible idea?

It’s entirely possible that somebody like Ossai, Perkins, or Basham falls to us, but if not, you don’t need to panic at all.

I prefer Bevin Jordan, honestly. Tommy is too plain, fit the typical TE format. Jordan can act as a big slot as well, he and Kelce would cause defenses fits.

Whatever it takes to fist **** opposing teams lol

Trembles blocking is amazing. Brevin Jordan ran the 40 like an offensive lineman.

Carlos Basham DE Wake Forest

6’3” 270 33 inch arms

Longest active streak in CFB for a TFL with 23 consecutive games. 16 sacks in last 20 games on a team with little NFL talent so he was the headliner and still produced

Looked awesome at the Senior Bowl. Looked good both inside and outside rushing