DeWitt prints money at Busch stadium. Been to a game lately (pre rona)? It's like going to an amusement park.

I really hope Pujols comes to his senses and just retires. Sign a one week contract, throw him out there for a few at-bats for an at-home series, and then he can retire as a Cardinal. Very lucky to have lived in STL for three of his best years and went to about 80 games. I'll never forget the thrill of his at-bat anytime. Starting to feel that way about Arenado but just will never be the same as number 5.

I’ve not been to a game at Bush since 2010 when I moved. Going back to visit family it’s usually at Christmas time.

I did make it to Arrowhesd and see Mahomes get the 50 TD’s/5000 yards record and clinch HFA sitting in Gblowfish’s seats. That was a very very cool experience.

Bump for all you fogeys who can't use a message board :)

Haha thank you!

WTF? I hadn't even noticed. LMAO

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Great win tonight! Relief pitching came through in the clutch and two massive home runs in late innings by Goldy and TON. Well done.

Edman being more consistent at the lead off spot. Carlson at #2, Goldy, Arenado and then next year, adding Gorman, this will be a legit lineup for the next couple of years.

I will admit I wasn't convinced Edman was a big league player. He has not only been good in the lead off spot he has been stellar defensively.

The offense is till pretty spotty but that's really the case everywhere in MLB right now outside of the WhiteSox.

Hard to believe but Edman leads the team in WAR. Granted we are 20~% through the season but he's been fantastic.

I wouldn’t count on Gorman making the jump, at least to start the season next year. Struggling so far in Springfield.

Carlson looked like shit last year. He's a legit rookie of the year candidate now. They have to learn how to adjust at this level. Even those with the high ceiling natural raw talent.

I agree. Viewed him as one of those utility players but not a difference maker. Never saw him achieving this level of positive impact on the team.

I think he has passed the Joe McEwing/Bo Hart one hit wonder status, but not yet ready to call him Tommy Herr yet. :)

Is there any other player this side of Prince Fielder who looks like he belongs in Milwaukee more than Daniel Vogelbach?

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I saw this stat line earlier in the day. I immediately thought WTF is Carpenter playing instead of this guy......

Max Moroff (s): 14-for-26, .538/.647/1.115, 1.762 OPS, 4 HR, 9 RBIs, 6 BB, 3 K

Maybe he wiffs at the MLB level but he only has to hit better than .118 to justify starting in front of Carpenter.

I don't know if it's for everyone, or it was a me exclusive deal, but i got an email for MLB.tv @ 50% off today.

Go to mlb66.ir and get it 100% off

**** DeWitt and Mozeliak
https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1393671748990689281

They must have kicked the tires. Heyman usually doesn’t post BS. But a couple of hours later he posted that he didn’t see much traction.

The only opening we have is Carps AB’s. So he goes to the Dodgers.

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That’s, an interesting move by the Dodgers

Pujols is now bad at baseball. When he realizes that and wants to sign a 1 day contract and retire, I’m sure the Cards would be willing.

Who gives a **** about not signing a 45 year old free agent?

come on man don’t be a dick. We all get old. He should sign his one day contract, put on the red jacket and stay off the baseball field. But, we ain’t him.

Anyone else, your response would be on spot but not the baseball player who had the best 11 years of any player ever and did that in a Cardinal uniform.

Matt ****ING Carpenter is ten times worse. With this news and David Perron being put on the COVID list, words can't describe how LIVID I am.

Matt Carpenter is now the Cardinals newest relief pitcher.

Give him a ceremonial contract when his playing days are done, sure. The problem is he wants to continue playing.

I agree. He has no full time player gas left in the tank. He wants full time, no room at the inn here.


But............... We lost by one run on Friday. Carp came up twice with men in scoring position. He's hitting .115. Maybe the worst in baseball. Carp is costing us wins and still is getting AB's after 2 years of this "slump". I was hoping that if we brought in Pujols, we could finally get Carp out of the line up. That way Puljos immediately makes this team better.

Where does Pujols play? At least Carpenter can be plugged into a few different spots. Pujols plays once every other week for Goldschmidt and pinch hits, that’s it. It never made sense.

This pitching staff has had a terrible series against a shell of the real Padres team. No way we should have lost this series, let alone the possibility of being swept.

Albert is a Dodger.

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I am curious about what you guys think about this. Is Rich accurate in this rant about cheating in baseball?
I don't watch much baseball so I have no idea whether or not this is accurate. Rich is generally pretty good though.

Even I noticed all these sliders from JAG’s with HOF movement now. I guess it’s if everyone is allowed to do it, no one snitches on anyone. There are no innocent teams. If anyone has bitched, it’s not public.

It hurts the fans and the game. Baseball needs more offense. Allowing pitchers to cheat to decrease offense ain’t good for the game. Even it’s a level cheat field for all teams.

Cheating is cheating and it is not good for players, teams, or fans. The league should probably put an end to this situation. This type of stuff after the Astros and Covid is not good for baseball.

God they are shitting themselves tonight. 12 to ****ing 3. And of course I’m at a bar full of ****ing Cub fans.

:cuss:

Wtf happened? It was 3-3 when I fell asleep.

Game momentum got away from them when Molina popped out. The Crowd sounded like a full stadium got going, standing and cheering, yelling, bases loaded, 1 out.... felt like pre-Covid and then that game changing moment was lost.


Then a inning or two later Webb gave up the game. I don't understand why he is still getting a chance in close games. He obviously is not right. Send him down to figure out whatever it is he needs to figure out.

Why do these guys have some sort of mental block against the Cubs.

Gallegos today. Manager gets tossed.

Umpire Joe West ordered Gallegos to switch caps because apparently there was sunscreen on the bill. Cardinals manager Mike Shildt, thinking his player was unfairly singled out, got ejected during an animated argument.

That overshadowed everything else in the Cardinals' 4-0 victory over the Chicago White Sox on Wednesday.

"This is baseball's dirty little secret, and it's the wrong time and the wrong arena to expose it," Shildt said. "Here's the deal. First of all, Gio wears the same hat all year. Hats accrue dirt. Hats accrue substances. ... Did Gio have some sunscreen at some point in his career to make sure he doesn't get some kind of melanoma? Possibly. Does he use rosin to help out? Possibly. Are these things that baseball really wants to crack down on? No.''

In a statement released later Wednesday, Shildt said, "I have a great working relationship with the umpires and Major League Baseball. They have a lot of challenges to doing their job and they do it well. Having to police foreign substances, candidly, shouldn't have to be a part of their job."

The Cardinals brought in Gallegos with one out in the seventh, after Genesis Cabrera hit Yoan Moncada, putting runners on first and second.

West, who on Tuesday set MLB's record for most games umpired, said second-base ump Dan Bellino noticed a substance on the brim of the pitcher's cap.

West said Gallegos told him it was sunscreen. Even so, he made the pitcher switch caps before throwing a pitch because "we don't want anybody to be accused of cheating or any of that stuff.'' The cap was sent to the commissioner's office.

"The whole point of this is we're trying to protect his pitcher, and he got ejected," West said.

Shildt, who was tossed for the second time this season, said he appreciated the motivation. But he questioned why there was enforcement.

"Let's go check the guys that are sitting there going into their glove every day with filthy stuff coming out, not some guy before he even steps on the mound with a spot on his hat," he said.

Once the situation cooled, Gallegos squashed the threat, striking out American League MVP Jose Abreu and Yermin Mercedes.

A much needed win today, the Edman and Sosa show for hitting, who knew? Sosa needs to start indefinitely, even with DeJong's return. Have him play 2B/SS/3B.

Slow your roll.....Are we sure we have exited Bo Hart territory? ;)


I went and looked at the Springfield Cardinals website. Gorman is playing nothing but 3B. Looks like the Cardinals have decided that he is going to be the DH, insurance in case Arenado opts out or trade bait.

He’s played 2B his last three games.

I looked over the weekend. Good to hear. If they put Carp there, why not Gorman?

Yes, Let's get a little more sample size...the eye test doesn't wow me with him, but I am glad he has filled in well this stint. When DeJong comes back he could get more reps at 2B allowing Edman to fill in a corner outfield spot.

Sosa right now is a better option in the lineup than J Williams.

I'm certainly not anointing Sosa as the next superstar but we need to ride this out, unlike what we've done with all of the other prospects we've traded that are now succeeding at the MLB-level.

He deserves additional looks, with the outfield depleted, let Edman play out there more and move Sosa to 2b until better options unfold.

I prefer Edman at 2b, but you should always be looking for your best nine, and right now that is pretty thin.

With our anemic offense and Carp failing leaves no room for tryouts. That’s not the case yet. He’s hitting. He should play until he doesn’t. Doesn’t matter where players play. In this lineup, you hit, you play. Period.

I may have been wrong about O'Neil. When dude hits it he hits it.

Carp should have been DFA'd a long time ago. Wainwright would have better numbers.

With our shitty offense Carp shouldn't be able to sniff a bench spot yet he starts several times a week. I dont give a **** what he did before. He sucks balls now and has for a long time.

He is the crux of this fanbase's problems with this organization.

100%

He's at least learned to sometimes lay off the that outside slider. It's made the pitchers thrown him pitches he can mash. He's mashing fastballs and off speed stuff. Everyone can see the potential upside all the way up to being an All-Star.

He keeps getting these tweaks that take him out of the lineup. Has to be a reason.

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O’Neill has a 460ft bomb on Thursday. Another one on Friday. Tonight another 450ft bomb.

The wife will not be happy about this.

I don’t think Ozunas wife is very happy either. :rolleyes:

As fans of the team that Tyreek Hill plays on, I think we should all know by now not to condemn a guy based on an initial report.

Exactly. So many dumb takes on that subject on this board

Dodgers just busted out an ass whooping in the 1st inning.

Very true. In this case Ozuna was choking his wife, threw her against a wall and struck her in front of cops that had walked in and witnessed it.

Ouch Carlos sure got shelled.

No worries Mo has this......:mad:


Regarding free agents, recent or otherwise, Mozeliak said, “Are they going to have to ramp up? Or are they going to literally be ready to plug and play? Of course, we’re going to look at what that market looks like but I don’t feel like there’s a quick answer that’s necessarily going to help us. It’s not real practical for us to have someone go out and have to spend a month to ramp up, at this point.

“By then, you’re looking at really the true trading deadline (July 30) period.

“It’s really about trying to create some depth. You look at all the people who are currently on the injured list and then you look at the Triple-A club where a few of those players who are on the 40-man (roster) are injured, too. Our hands are a little bit tied at the moment. It’s not as though you have two or three guys at the Triple A who are just knocking on the door to help us at the big-league level.


“Roster creativity is going to be something that we have to take a deep dive in. If there are ways we can add some depth, not only to the big-league club but to the system in general, that’s something we’re going have to explore. And that’s something that’s going to start right away.”

Mozeliak projected that “maybe when you get into August, you find that you’re the type of club you thought you were going to be. But that’s still two months away.

“It’s not like you can simply say, ‘Let’s be patient and try to muddle through this.’

“There are no timeouts in this business, so we’ve got to keep going. We’re going to try to do whatever we can to keep this together until we’re getting to a point where we’re getting some of these players returning.

I'll say it again, any team that keeps running Carpenter out there deserves to lose.

Then you have him batting in front of Sosa who has been a demonstratively better hitter than Carpenter this year and watch him flail with RISP with 2 outs.

Cards are definitely fading right now. Need some positive momentum.

they have lost Flaherty, Hudson, Kim and Mikolas. We are not deep enough to recover from that.

Then we are still running out Carpenter and all these AAAA players that wouldn’t be playing on 75% of the other MLB teams.

This season is over. Hopefully Arenado won’t opt out. :(

We should not be buyers this year. Don’t even pretend. Don’t trade our top players for anything short term. Just play for next year. Hopefully someone other than Mo will be giving out the next FA contracts but that’s probably a pipe dream.

I checked cots, fangraphs and spotrac.They all basically say we have around $95 million committed in 2022 to Goldy, Arenado, Mikolas, Martinez and Dejong. No one else is guaranteed money, no dead money.

2021 salary total is $184.6 million. Say you bring Waino/Molina back for one more year that’s $20-$25 million tops. If the Cards keep it the same that leaves an guesstimated $40-$45 million we could possibly spend on FA’s. Basically Carps and Fowler’s money. Trade Martinez, you get another $17 million freed up.

Should be enough to get a #3 starter and a good DH bat in the lineup.

Edman
Carlson
New signee DH/RF $25- $30 million a year
Arenado
Goldy
O’’Neill
Dejong
Molina/C
Bader or replacement OF or Gorman
Pitcher
Someone DH’s, probably

That’s a more respectful lineup

Pitching:
Flaherty
Liberatore
New #3. $15 million a year
Thompson(long term)
Mikolas/Hudson/Martinez/Waino

Pretty decent team of ex cards on this list.

https://redbirdrants.com/2021/06/06/...ardinals-team/

I'll gladly take that lineup.

With O'Neill learning to lay off that outside slider a lot more often and Carlson looking to be a solution in the #2 hole, they lengthen the lineup. Put a solid middle of the order bat in there, add Gorman and maybe we can compete again.

But......... a middle of the order bat ain't going here for $30 million/3 years. They are going to want a longer commitment. Mo making those type of decisions hasn't ended well for us in a long time.There is risk for sure we are saddled with a Fowler/Carp contract for 3-4 bad years.

I'm seeing at least a 3 year window for us to compete starting next year. Trading the crucial elements needed for that window to compete this year is stupid.

This team is complete shit. Carp batting 6th LMAO.

Mo is by far the worst FO guy in MLB. Every decision outside of the Arenado deal has been shit.

MArp, Mikolas extensions, the Goldy contract and trade doesn't look good, ex Cards killing it all over baseball right now. Embarrassing.

Fire MO and Shildt

Schildt seems to be a dude just in over his ski's and being manipulated by the FO.

Time to clean house. We have called for it for awhile now. Embarrassing watching a shit Brewer roster entrenched in 1st.

who’s still on the Mo train? Do people in St. Louis still support him? Well besides the one that decides these things, Dewitt.

The Cardinals are still raking in money hand over fist with ballpark village. Mo ain’t going anywhere. :sulk:

St. Louis Cardinals: Creating a 2021 All Ex-Cardinals Team


Recap (Lineup and Rotation)

Manager: Larussa

1. Kolten Wong
2. Randy Arozarena
3. Adolis Garcia
4. Randal Grichuk
5. Luke Voit
6. Carson Kelly
7. Aledmys Diaz/Brad Miller
8. Patrick Wisdom
9. Pitcher

Bench
Albert Pujols
David Peralta
Tommy Pham
Matt Adams
Yairo Munoz
Rotation

1. Lance Lynn
2. Zac Gallen
3. Sandy Alcantara
4. Marco Gonzales
5. Austin Gomber

Bullpen
Trevor Rosenthal


https://redbirdrants.com/2021/06/06/st-louis-cardinals-2021-ex-cardinals-team/amp/1/




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Did I miss the memo, we are “real” rivals with Cincy now?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joey Votto had some strong words about the Reds four-game sweep in St. Louis. &quot;We had some sh** talking mother f***ers... How&#39;d you like that?&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Reds?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Reds</a> <a href="https://t.co/hsGjunm2WQ">pic.twitter.com/hsGjunm2WQ</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Saho (@BrandonSaho) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonSaho/status/1402354943600758793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Every team is rivals with a team that has that Amir Garrett shitbag.

That’s great and all, but is that team really any better than the current roster? Who would you replace on the starting lineup (not including Carpenter since he isn’t even a starter when Bader comes back).

I get it, Mo sucks, and we’re in Alex Smith-like purgatory, but what moves do you make to improve the roster?

I posted it above. Get a legit middle of the order bat in FA. Open the pocketbook Dewitt. You got Fowler and Carp's money and the Rockies $50 million to get a great head start on paying for it and the dead/bad money that will surely come later as it does in all those deals.

Assuming that happens and Arenado doesn't opt-out we will have a legit lineup next year capable of winning a series in the post-season against other legit teams.

Liberatore into the #2 spot next year. Gorman and Thompson when they are ready.