We told you it's not a sensitive subject. It's a dead subject.

He was innocent, it's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Keep bringing it up though. Maybe they'll remove you from the board, period.

I think you are arguing with a bot.

Playoff experience son. Allen is a proven playoff choker. Rivers has been great in wildcard games.

I looked at the lines yesterday, and without diving into a lot of film study, etc., I like:

IND to cover +6.5

LAR/SEA to cover the Over +42.5

WTF to cover +9

BAL/TEN to cover the Over +54.5

NOR to cover -10

CLE to cover +6.5

I am curious though. Is Goff playing? Because it seems odd that the spread on that game isn't larger if Goff is out with a broken thumb.

Definitely a human,

But absolutely reading from a script.

If you are talking Tyreek, know the facts not hearsay.

How many career playoff wins does Allen have again? Rivers has been around the block. Playoffs are a different animal. If its a one possession game late watch yourself.

Yeah, dime a dozen... and when you really start calling it out, it's always the same doubling down, "you just don't like muh opinions!"

Internet trolls/idiots are a lot like playoff teams looking for their first victory in years and years... they all believe they're the sexy new thing with no idea how many carbon copies have come before them or how often they get smacked down.

You guys are so arrogant. You should really be more humble.

Like Bills fan.

Fixed

Who are you betting on this weekend?
 

I looked this up just for you, even though I know you will ignore it.

https://www.fanduel.com/theduel/post...een-profitable

BTW, Rivers beat the Raven so he is 4-0 in the wildcard round.

Nah give me the wiley vet on possibly his last run over Allen who has proven ZERO when it matters most.

I’m pretty sure that Rivers has a losing playoff record...

Not that it matter for this year, but since you brought it up.

That would be pretty impressive if true... I mean, I'd rather test out the AI of a bot, because at least then you know its intelligence can be enhanced over time.

Listening to Colts radio on RADIO.com and the guy said “Bills are a matchup nightmare for this team. They’re going my to pick on (whatever CB he said) over and over.”

I find it so interesting that Chiefs fans think they know the Colts better than Colts fans know their own team and Colts announcers know their team.

Rivers, as a 17-year vet, should do well vs. BUF's defense. As long as he doesn't have to try and play catch-up too much. At this point in his career, he just can't be asked to throw 40 times. But if IND's defense can keep things contained, and they get their run game going, Rivers can play game-manger most of the time, then they have a real chance at stealing this game.

A lot depends on how Allen comes out. If he has the jitters like last season, IND could easily steal this one.

I think Rivers will have better stats (more yards, etc) than most people expect. Because the Bills are going to load the box and stop the run. That should leave area for Rivers.

But considering one of the first threads on the Colts forum is “Rivers sucks”, I’m feeling good about that. The thread basically talks about how rivers stats this year are better than he actually has played. And the stats aren’t even that good

Meh. Fans rarely take into account reality. For instance, this is Rivers first season with IND, so no preseason, new system, new teammates, new culture, etc. Naturally his overall numbers would be down.

But he is pretty cagey, and he does have a solid record in the WC round. Problems come up if you take away his run game and/or he has to come back from two scores. He'll start pressing, which is when he starts trying to fit balls where they just don't belong.

But Allen's stats in the playoffs are not good. And we all watched him implode last season vs. HOU. And the Texans had one of the worst defenses, if not the worst defense, in the playoffs last season.

And IND has one of the best defenses in the playoffs, so there has to be serious concern about how Allen will handle that this season.

If the Colts defense can get consistent pressure and stay disciplined on the back end, and Allen has trouble with that, BUF will be in a lot of trouble, because they don't have a run game to lean on.

However, I still expect Rivers to find a way to give the game away at the end, which is why I like IND to cover, but not win.

Diggs (oblique) and Beasley (knee) both listed as questionable.

Obviously they will play, but how close are they to 100%?

A team that hasn't won a playoff game in 26 years (the Bills), giving almost 7 points?

Take the Colts and the 6.5 points.

The Bills offense and Josh Allen have been underwhelming against AFC playoff teams... averaging just under 20 points per game with a 1-2 record.

Doesn't count, ancient history.

Only the last 6 games matter. Josh Allen is MVP.

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This doesn't count for Chiefs fans though, right?

Literally, just now on the radio.

"The Colts defense has struggled down the stretch"

Edit: Looked up the radio guy's comment, and he's right.

They're averaging almost 28 points per game given up over the last 7. And that includes 3 games against teams with 4-12 and 1-15 records.

Prisco even wrote this morning: "The Colts defense has waned in the second half of the season, which has to be a concern facing Josh Allen and the high-flying Buffalo offense. Indianapolis was once the top-ranked defense in the league, but they fell off in a big way in the final six games." https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/p...d-browns-home/

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It's all about the stretches with daquix

Yes.

If, for example, a team gets blown out for 6 straight weeks, it doesn't matter to me if they won once, 3 months ago.

Who in the playoffs got blown out for 6 straight weeks?

That's an extremely pertinent example......of nothing. WTF?

Steelers are close-ish, but not really.

Point was simply that streaks matter.

I made a long post the other day showing all the SB winners that went on streaks. As usual, many ignored it.

"The Bills have won 6 straight."

"The Chiefs have won 10 straight."

"Only 6 weeks count!"

They ignored because nobody here gives a shit what you think.

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A Buffalo Bills fan explaining to Chiefs fans on a Chiefs board about SB Winners...


You have zero self-awareness.


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Fixed it for you.

You've been proven wrong over and over. Lack of self awareness is not a virtue.

Is it your assertion that being a fan (well, you're not really a fan, you just like Mahomes, but stick with me) of a team that won a Super Bowl, gives you some greater insight into trends and what teams will do well in the playoffs?

No, my post was right. You are nothing but a worthless dickbag troll that has been banned repeatedly from other message boards for spamming your lame opinions there. It’s just a matter of time before you are banned here for the same shit.

The Chiefs have played in 9 postseason games in 4 years, including 5 wins.

The Bills in that time are 0-2.

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Dumbass.

All streaks end Turbo. No one cares about your team anymore. You have almost singlehandedly ensured that all goodwill towards Buffalo has been killed on this board.

Because Buffalo fans aren't used to watching top end QB play or top teams. Many of them are just fans of their team and know very little football outside their own games.

You are a great example of this. So no thanks, we don't need your "help" in discerning what makes a champion as we just watched it. You have no clue.

Well they do have two AFL Championships and all.

Show us the streaks, Einstein. Post it again since everybody ignored it.

We won't ignore it this time.

So, is it your assertion that being a fan of a team that won a Super Bowl, or won lots of playoff games, gives you some greater insight into trends and what teams will do well in the playoffs?

Post the streaks or go away.

The Chiefs have been playing in big games for 3 years now. As fans we know what the big games look like, we know how they compare to regular season.

For Buffalo fan, if he believes his own bullshit, running up the score on a few teams that quit late in December makes him excited! For Kansas City fans, we know it's about staying healthy and getting to the post-season.

Notice how all this fool wants to do is masturbate to meaningless games and stats from a few weeks ago. Sounds like someone wants to kick back their feet and relax just a while in the lounge with Chiefs..because he is afraid that his fantasy is about to end with another Josh Allen choke job, just like last year.

You didn't answer the question.

We're not going to answer the question.

Post the streaks.

Not here to be trolled. You are boring AF now.

For example:

The 2018 Patriots, for example, won 7 in a row (including playoffs) before beating the Falcons in the Super Bowl.

The 2017 Patriots, won 13 of 14 in a row (including playoffs) before losing to Eagles in the Super Bowl.

The 2017 Eagles won 14 of 15 before beating the Patriots in the Super Bowl (i'm not counting Week 17 where they sat all starters).

The 2014 Patriots won 12 out of 14 games before beating the Seahawks in the Super Bowl.

The 2008 Steelers won 8 out of 9 games before beating the Cardinals in the Super Bowl.

The 2005 Steelers won their last 4 in the regular season and then 4 straight in the playoffs (8 in a row) to win the Super Bowl.

The 2004 Patriot's won 10 of 11 games before beating the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

The 2003 Patriot's won 14 games in a row before beating the Panthers in the Super Bowl.

Etc, etc, etc.

Streaks matter.

Bills have won 6 straight.

Chiefs have won TEN straight.

Chiefs win.

/end of discussion

Of course you're not.

And we all know why.

Including the playoffs.

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You're ****ing reeruned. Seriously.

Yeah both of those are pretty great.

Because you're a useless piece of shit message board troll.

That's why.

One is almost TWICE as great as other, troll.

Even if you don't include the playoffs, those streaks are all there.

I see your strawman already being built.

The Bills have a REGULAR SEASON win streak.

The 2018 Patriots lost 2 of their last 4 in the regular season before advancing in the playoffs to beat the Rams, who also lost 2 of their last 4.

Your stats are complete horseshit.

You just make up whatever parameters you want and spew numbers.

**** off troll.

The 2018 Patriots lost 2 of their last 4 games dipshit.

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I mean, one isn't accurate, but yeah, cool anyways.

Of course, let's count the one where Chad Henne started at QB.

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You want to put it to a vote now, dickbag? We can get rid of you permanently if you want to be disingenuous AND dumb at the same time.

Your very first example of a streak:

2018 New England Patriots.

Week 14 - loss
Week 15 - loss

You're a fake and a liar. A straight up ****ing liar.

It's amazing that you persist. A normal person would be embarrassed to try this hard at repeated failure.

No, they didn't.

Week 17: Pats 26, Jets 6
Week 16: Pats 37, Bills 17
Week 15: Pats 27, Steelers 24
Week 14: Loss
Week 13: Pats 23, Bills 3
Week 12: Pats 35, Dolphins 17
Week 11: Pats 33, Raiders 8

They won 6 of 7 going in.

You're looking up the year they beat the Rams.

I didn't list that year.

I listed the year they beat the Falcons.

It literally says "defeated the Falcons in the Super Bowl" in my post.

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https://www.pro-football-reference.c...s/nwe/2018.htm

https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/schedu...ne/season/2018

Week 14 - @ Dolphins LOSS 34-33
Week 15 - @ Steelers LOSS 17-10

You're straight up ****ing wrong.

You're looking up the year they beat the Rams.

I didn't list that year.

I listed the year they beat the Falcons.

It literally says "defeated the Falcons in the Super Bowl" in my post.

I'll BOLDEN the part, so it's more clear.

For example:

The 2018 Patriots, for example, won 7 in a row (including playoffs) before beating the Falcons in the Super Bowl.

The 2017 Patriots, won 13 of 14 in a row (including playoffs) before losing to Eagles in the Super Bowl.

The 2017 Eagles won 14 of 15 before beating the Patriots in the Super Bowl (i'm not counting Week 17 where they sat all starters).

The 2014 Patriots won 12 out of 14 games before beating the Seahawks in the Super Bowl.

The 2008 Steelers won 8 out of 9 games before beating the Cardinals in the Super Bowl.

The 2005 Steelers won their last 4 in the regular season and then 4 straight in the playoffs (8 in a row) to win the Super Bowl.

The 2004 Patriot's won 10 of 11 games before beating the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

The 2003 Patriot's won 14 games in a row before beating the Panthers in the Super Bowl.

Etc, etc, etc.

The "year" listed is the Super Bowl year.

If you want the regular season year, simply subtract 1 year from what is listed.

That's the 2017 season you dumb piece of shit.

We're in a thread about betting. Buffalo fan, are you betting on your incredible team this week?

Yeah, he thinks they'll win by 10+.

I listed the Super Bowl year, since, were talking about Super Bowl teams.

Now go ahead and try to discredit all those Super Bowl winners, now that you know what years I'm talking about (PS, use the context clues based on what team I said they beat).

$10K on Bills -10.

Anyway, I'm done here.

Hopefully this guy is done soon and hopefully it's because the Bills get crushed by the Colts. If not, hopefully he keeps acting like a douche and gets banned.

The absolute worst part of being on this message board for the past 20 years is these ****ing rival fan trolls that think they know everything and can tell us all about how we're bad fans.

It's beyond ridiculous.

Nah, I'm done responding to you. Hopefully everybody else will do the same and you'll get the ****ing hint that nobody wants you here.

Posts tons of SB winners and the streaks they were on.

htismaqe runs away

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And the odd thing about it is, the Chiefs are the ones on a 10 game win streak (not including last week).

So you think they’re going back-to-back then probably?

Forget win streaks or how so and so won ‘8 of their last 9’, etc etc.

It’s pretty simple. Teams with byes make Super Bowls the vast majority of the time in recent history. Teams with byes win a lot of games, otherwise they wouldn’t have said bye. Teams that win a lot of games, enough to earn a bye, are usually the best the league has to offer.

The end.

+10 is a dangerous number. Also, If you had only bet the money line on every dog the last couple years wildcard weekend you would be well ahead of betting the favorites.

Probably.

He believes in his boys. They're on a steak ya know.

Not sure why you would say that. I certainly have never said that, especially about CP. The fact is that most fans tend to look at overall numbers, or total statlines, much as you did when you first came here, when you declared that the Chiefs defense was ranked last against the run last season, when in fact in the last six games of the regular season they had significantly improved their run defense to where they were actually a top-10 run stopping unit from week 11-17. Which they improved upon in the playoffs.

Which I find puzzling when you keep saying that you're studying stats, and no self-respecting stats guy would lean on such general data to analyze current trends. I never majored in stats, but I took several classes in college, and I know better than that. They must be teaching stats differently nowadays.


Yeah, IND has had some injury issues late in the season, including Buckner being out a couple games or something, and one or two of their secondary players dealing with injuries.

However, I believe Buckner will play this weekend, and he's integral to their DL and its ability to get pressure. What he'll actually be able to do is a question though.

Their secondary might be in trouble though. We could see blown coverages and bad communication as their DB unit stands right now.

The most important piece of their defense though is that DL and its ability to rush the passer. If they can do that, they can force Josh to have to be disciplined about how he QBs vs. pressure. They'd also have to make sure they take away Diggs of course, but if they can do it with some consistency that could be a problem for Allen, since he hasn't shown that he can deal with that situation at a high level.

Also, I'm pretty sure Prisco made an error in his math. But for this conversation I don't think we need to dig into that.

If that's true, it is in reverse of NFL history.

From 1987 to 2017, the favorite won 66% of the time.