Prefer Sutton

Speaking of, why haven't we heard about Berry having surgery yet?

Did I ****ing say that it was the opening lineup for next year? That's players right now. It's obviously subject to change.

I heard he prefers taking baths!

Agreed!

Spagnuolo's players seemed to have a shit ton of respect for the guy, so there is that.

I saw a Mic'd up video of Chris Jones and he complemented Sutton on a play call, and the dude just looked frail and like he didn't want to be there. The players OBVIOUSLY didn't believe in him.

So those two super bowl rings that he has.......are times that he sucked?

This is gonna be a fun offseason

1000x better than Sutton

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Remember the last time we hired a DC who hadn't achieved anything in a decade?

Gunther Cunningham

Maybe Spag will permit twists and blitzes.

The **** out of here with that

We have Mahomes not Smith

We don’t need #1 defense

So does anyone think that Ford could play the Will or Mike LB? He's got the speed and decent coverage skills, Doubt he would be able to hold up as SAM but if Hitchens was Sam, DOD could play either will or mike, and ford the other. Then spags could design some good blitzes for ford, since instead of trying to anchor and beat tackles all day long he could get a variety.

No way is Ford a MLB in a 4-3 and I'm not paying him $16-$17 million a season to be a WLB.

Spags is better than Sutton. Case closed.

Don't forget Spags D held our offense to 9 pts last November.

No. He's a one trick pony - fly around the right tackle and get a sack. You get him thinking from the MLB position and you're asking for disaster.

Honestly, if you’re trying to make objective statements about this hire right now, whether good or bad, you’re a ****ing idiot.

There’s a whole offseason to play out. Let’s see what some guys say about it that have played for him. Let’s see if we do make the 4-3 switch, which would be great IMO. Let’s see who is added to the roster.

WORST case scenario, Andy is maybe looking at Spags’ scheme and saying, he’s aggressive so if we do end up giving up a lot of points in a game, maybe it won’t take 12 to 15 plays to do it. No more keeping Mahomes off the field for 2/3 of the AFCCG.

Again, let shit play out. If you don’t like it, maybe provide some actual reasoning to believe it instead of just, “WTF SAME OLD SHIT WE SUCK!!!”....

Like someone else mentioned. Maybe he can make Tanoh and Speaks serviceable to we don’t have 2 giant 2nd round bust staring back at us.

I agree that we couldn't franchise him if thats the plan and he'd have to be willing to take a deal that would work for it. But I think he's got the work ethic and smarts that he COULD do it if he wanted to stay on the team.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Steve Spagnuolo was the defensive coach that Andy Reid wanted to hire after firing Bob Sutton. This is now done and official, and was in the works since the two men spoke Wednesday. <a href="https://t.co/hLAgigXKiX">https://t.co/hLAgigXKiX</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1088569593382219776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

“Chiefs should change defensive coordinators! This guy sucks!!”

*Chiefs change defensive coordinators*

“Not this guy! He probably sucks!! WAHHHHHHH!”

Sigh.

Yip!!!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I always felt like Nnadi was a stout 1 Tech and Speaks was a stout 3 tech and O’Daniel was a will in a 43 scheme when they were drafted last season.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1088573617380704257?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I have plenty of misgivings about this hire, but he played a part in shutting down one of the best offenses in NFL history in the Superbowl.

We don’t see this, we just want the big name guys!!!

Possibly more proof that this was in the works all along...

I don't think Bob Sutton has watched game film since 1973 so this is already a huge improvement

Speaks as a 3-tech LMAO

Dude was playing OLB

Sutton had Speaks playing out of position. When he rushed with his hand in the dirt....he was much better.

But Andy doesn’t want to win the SB

If Speaks really can play 3-tech well, him and Chris Jones are going to murder and rape guards in the dime package.

I would imagine Nnadi will be next to Jones in base.

Yeah, I don’t really know what to think of this hire.

Probably leaning towards “meh”. Better than keeping Sutton, I guess.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones would a beast of a 3 tech and not a half bad defense end in 43.</p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1088573879436673024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Come on guys, this is getting more and more exciting!!

Kind of like Calais Campbell?

There's a lot of fun places they can put guys on the D-line now, depending on matchups.

You'd like to think they can even bust out a 3-4 package just to **** with offenses.

So if Houston won’t restructure you think he’s gone now?

Why are people bitching about schemes and changing things up? The Chiefs current scheme was to make no adjustments and play mediocre players in positions that almost guaranteed failure. Why would you not change that?

I remember Petro talking about Hitchens struggling throughout the season and him saying that he had heard from people that the biggest reason was because he was transitioning to a new defense and it was completely different from anything he had ever played in before.

Keep in mind that we only played the traditional 3-4 defense on first down. The nickel defense was basically a 4-3 up front.

I definitely foresee us getting aggressive about getting one linebacker and multiple corners. This guy’s defense was good in New York in 2016 when they brought in Janoris Jenkins and Eli Apple.

That’s exactly how he should be used

****, he's from NE? That accent gives me PTSD...

This.

Go let Jones sell out for the pass and not worry about the run as much.

I have a good feeling. Maybe not exciting, but an improvement. Chiefs don't need a top 5 defense to win. I'm hoping and praying that Spags (along with some key personnel changes) is more than capable of locking down the defense enough where they can stop opposing offenses and get the hell off the field. They don't need to be perfect with our offense.

Really wanna get behind this hire ! But this feels like Sutton 2.0. Hope I am wrong

Assuming Emmitt Thomas is gone. Love you but everything about the secondary suuuuuuccked this year.

Going with cautious optimism.

I’m on board!!!!!!

Landon Collins will be a Chief, mark it down!!!!

Ben Niemann = Scott Fujita!!!

Hope stirs anew...at least until next season...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting. I could argue that a 4-3 under look (remember, base defense is less than half the snaps by a mile) works better for Hitchens, DOD, and perhaps even Ragland. <br><br>Ford is fine as a wide 9 DE, Houston can do whatever, and Nnadi/Jones work inside. Could be interesting. <a href="https://t.co/okqyxuBWYU">https://t.co/okqyxuBWYU</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1088565562219921409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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He didnt appear to have problems in the preseason.

I like! Who was his DB's coach?

If C.J. Mosley hit the market ��

I'm underwhelmed by the hire. But willing to give him a shot. He may be cursed. A lot of his recent "failures" are based on him not cutting it as a head coach, and two no win situations (bountygate, mcadoo-gate). Maybe the 2016 successful giants defense was a fluke. Or maybe he was onto something only for mcadoo to **** things up. That gives me some hope.

In the meantime, we move to a D better suited for the modern nfl. We bring in a guy with a great track record of success with DB's. We sound committed to improving our D personnel. We don't have Sutton. And if we improve from last to just better than last, that might actually be just enough to put us over the top.

He's gotta prove to me he's better than mediocre. There's other guys I would've preferred. But the hire will make is better and there is that small possibility this hire could be excellent.

Selling Point... Landon Collins had his two BEST seasons under Spags.

If Spags can help us land Landon he is already better than Sutton!!

Yeah, I'd be a bit surprised if he's not here.

Excited because change if nothing else.

A Fresh new scheme with fresh new faces.

I get it, the guy hasn't been great. Been downright awful in other instances. Lets hope he finds some success here like in years past.

Translation:

Super Bowl
Super Bowl
Loss in AFCCC
Loss in AFCCC
Super Bowl
Loss in AFCCC

I’d take that...

Spags needs good corners for his defense to work. I'd expect him to invest in one that is better or at least challenges Ward/Fuller

People make no sense we have enough ILB that can’t cover

LETS GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

I think he's gone regardless.

Well yeah. That was just a lineup with our current guys. I expect a CB, S and LB at least to be brought in.

Honestly at this point.....I'd tag and trade Ford and then either cut or trade Houston.


Speaks - Nnadi - ??? - Jones

My first reaction was "yuck", but what you said rhymes and is pretty much the same thing.

As long as Ford is gone as well....I'm fine with it.

I don’t get the crapping all over this selection. What did you expect? Reid likes working with coaches he knows. He needs to trust them. Misplaced trust sometimes but still it’s his decision. It may have been decided before they even fired Sutton.

We don’t need a top ten defense. We just need a middle of the pack defense. Spags should get us there.

Mahomes is why we are a legitimate contender now. Who thought Mahomes would progress this far and fast? MVP his first season as a starter? Reid deserves the credit. He over there in the game sitting with him coaching him up. As he should be. We will rise or fall on how well Mahomes performs. It looks like Reid is perfect so far in his most important job. What coach Reid wants, Reid gets.

What about Zach Brown to fill a spot? Doesn't sound like he's long for Washington unless I missed something.

We’ve been drafting 4-3 players for this reason. I’m stoked about it!!

True. Neither is Japanese. :)

Reminder:
Last year, CP thought the Chiefs would suck because we hired Bienemy as OC and his offenses at Colorado were at best mediocre.

Conclusion:
This means so very little. It’s change which is good. Put some good personnel around him and roll the dice and we have something to look forward to.

We got torched by Chase Daniel and the Bears second team offense in our final preseason game and people were surprised Brady carved us up in the AFCCG. Water is wet.

(I am aware Reid is our real OC and Mahomes is god but people still thought it was catastrophic after losing Nagy.)

I really don't know what they're going to do. Paying Ford 15 mil to be a miscast would be a bad choice, but so is paying Houston 21 mil to be a bad fit.

Logic would say they both go, but now they have to scramble to find 2-3 DE's. Partly why I wasn't in favor of this

It will be interesting to see who he brings in for position coaches. I want to know for sure what he is going to do with our D?

WE NEED A PRESS CONFERENCE!!!

4-3 defensive ends are easier to find than 3-4 OLBs.

I think they'll convince Houston to restructure.

The Kansas City Chiefs will be hiring as Steve Spagnuolo as their new defensive coordinator, according to a report from Mike Garafolo of NFL Media. Spagnuolo will be replacing Bob Sutton, who was fired earlier this week after six seasons.

The news was also reported by Adam Schefter of ESPN, who says Spagnuolo was Chiefs head coach Andy Reid's first choice.

"Steve Spagnuolo was the defensive coach that Andy Reid wanted to hire after firing Bob Sutton," Schefter tweeted. "This is now done and official, and was in the works since the two men spoke Wednesday."

Spagnuolo, 59, began his career in 1981 as a graduate assistant at UMass, then took his first NFL job as an intern with the Redskins in 1983. For most of the 1980s and 1990s, Spagnuolo had stints in college as a defensive coach, including schools such as Connecticut, Rutgers, Maine, and Bowling Green, and also spent time with the Frankfurt Galaxy and Barcelona Dragons of the World League of American Football/NFL Europe.

Spagnuolo went on to join the defensive staff with the Eagles under Reid in 1999, serving as a defensive assistant (1999-2000), defensive backs coach (2001-2003) and linebackers coach (2004-2006) under defensive coordinator Jim Johnson. His first defensive coordinator opportunity came with the New York Giants under Tom Coughlin in 2007, during which he made a splash when his defense shut down the previously undefeated New England Patriots during a 17-14 win in Super Bowl XLII. His first head coaching opportunity came with the St. Louis Rams in 2009, which ended with his firing following the 2011 season after posting a 10-38 overall record.

Since then, Spagnuolo has spent time with the Baltimore Ravens as a senior defensive assistant (2013) and a secondary coach (2014), then returned to the Giants as the defensive coordinator from 2015 to 2017 and served as the interim head coach towards the end of the 2017 season after the firing of coach Ben McAdoo. Spagnuolo wasn't retained by the Giants after they hired Pat Shurmur as head coach in early 2018 and addressed his coaching future last February, knowing he might have to wait another season before getting another opportunity.

“It may not be this year, and that’s OK,” Spagnuolo said, per Newsday. “Sometimes when that happens it gives you a chance to sit back and see the big picture. I think that’s always good. When you’re in the middle of it all the time and you put the blinders on and you go, you miss some things. I don’t know what it will feel like because I’ve never not been [coaching] in the middle of a season, but if that’s the way it happens that’s the way it is. I’ll spend some more time with [my wife] Maria, that’ll be a blessing, and then we’ll see what happens next year.”

https://247sports.com/Article/Chiefs-hiring-Steve-Spagnuolo-defensive-coordinator-128265032/

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