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RunKC 08-11-2018 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13670373)
I wonder if Veach will try to trade a WR for a CB or an OL before the year starts.

We have a ton of WR talent that will end up getting cut and lots of teams need WR talent.

Maybe some of those teams in need have good prospects we can use at CB or OL.

I’d trade Conley or Robinson for a good LG right now.

Absolutely do not trade Robinson. Mahomes is a first year starter and we need to give him every option to succeed. We will also be running empty sets with 5 receivers a ton of the time.

If Watkins or Hill get hurt, Robinson is perfect insurance. In fact, you might be able to sign Robinson to a solid deal in 2 years when we have to choose between Hill/Watkins. When we lose one of those 2, it would be nice to still have Robinson here on a somewhat friendly deal.

NJChiefsFan 08-11-2018 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13670377)
Absolutely do not trade Robinson. Mahomes is a first year starter and we need to give him every option to succeed. We will also be running empty sets with 5 receivers a ton of the time.

If Watkins or Hill get hurt, Robinson is perfect insurance. In fact, you might be able to sign Robinson to a solid deal in 2 years when we have to choose between Hill/Watkins. When we lose one of those 2, it would be nice to still have Robinson here on a somewhat friendly deal.

I agree and also don't think a trade like that is ever likely to happen. That being said, fixing the OL would also be giving Mahomes every chance to succeed.

Beef Supreme 08-11-2018 10:16 AM

We better hope he can block a defensive lineman and then get open for a pass, because ain't nobody throwing deep with their ass on the ground.

Couch-Potato 08-11-2018 10:26 AM

lolololololoololololololololololololololololololoolololololololo...

TEX 08-11-2018 12:17 PM

Robinson seems to shine against JAG types or when games are meaningless. Ive seen him drop way too many when KC really needed it. He has talent, so maybe he puts it together enough to contribute on a consistent basis. Id settle for that.

TEX 08-11-2018 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13670377)
Absolutely do not trade Robinson. Mahomes is a first year starter and we need to give him every option to succeed. We will also be running empty sets with 5 receivers a ton of the time.

If Watkins or Hill get hurt, Robinson is perfect insurance. In fact, you might be able to sign Robinson to a solid deal in 2 years when we have to choose between Hill/Watkins. When we lose one of those 2, it would be nice to still have Robinson here on a somewhat friendly deal.

Great take! Exactly the case.

Sassy Squatch 08-11-2018 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13670485)
Robinson seems to shine against JAG types or when games are meaningless. Ive seen him drop way too many when KC really needed it. He has talent, so maybe he puts it together enough to contribute on a consistent basis. Id settle for that.

Yeah, he was utterly worthless in the playoff game against the Titans.

oldman 08-11-2018 12:26 PM

I think this might be DRob's year. I had high hopes for Conley, but he may have injured himself out of a job. I still think Dieter winds up on the 53, too.

SAUTO 08-11-2018 12:28 PM

How many drops has he had?

SAUTO 08-11-2018 12:30 PM

39 targets 1 drop


I guess that's just way too many when we really needed it in crunch time :rolleyes

RunKC 08-11-2018 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13670487)
Yeah, he was utterly worthless in the playoff game against the Titans.

Did well in the last drive of the first half of that game. Unfortunately a certain someone who isn’t here anymore turtled up after that.

Titty Meat 08-11-2018 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13670487)
Yeah, he was utterly worthless in the playoff game against the Titans.

He had a touchdown that game what are you talking about?

LiL stumppy 08-11-2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13669568)
He is the kind of explosive player who can potentially be a star, yes... still a long way to go though, obviously

I do believe he will take the #3 from Conley, he is just a better all around athlete

Lol what? Conley is arguably the most athletic person on the team. D Rob isn’t even close. I like him as a # 4, but Conley has potential to be a dominant WR. Not a close comparison

T-post Tom 08-11-2018 12:55 PM

Robinson had a good game. His arrow is pointing up.

UChieffyBugger 08-11-2018 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumppy (Post 13670506)
Lol what? Conley is arguably the most athletic person on the team. D Rob isn’t even close. I like him as a # 4, but Conley has potential to be a dominant WR. Not a close comparison

Conley has one TD in three years and can barely get open in tight spaces, Robinson has WAY more potential than him imo.

Easy 6 08-11-2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumppy (Post 13670506)
Lol what? Conley is arguably the most athletic person on the team. D Rob isn’t even close. I like him as a # 4, but Conley has potential to be a dominant WR. Not a close comparison

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13670373)
I’d trade Conley for a good LG right now.

Absolutely

Sassy Squatch 08-11-2018 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13670500)
He had a touchdown that game what are you talking about?

There's a guy I want you to meet. His name is ShitShirlock, first name No.

Chief Pagan 08-11-2018 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13670373)

I’d trade Conley or Robinson for a good average LG right now.

FYP

Hammock Parties 08-11-2018 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13670298)
500 yards receiving tops. Unless someone gets hurts. Just too many options on the team for him to get a huge amount of targets.

It's not about the number of targets, it's about the impact of the plays he makes.

If he catches 25 balls for 500 yards and 5 TDs that's a HUGE bonus.

Plus, depth. If Tyreek has to miss a game and he steps up with 5-6 catches for 80 yards that makes a big difference and helps the offense function more normally than if you had a scrub out there.

MahiMike 08-11-2018 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13669576)
Conley can do one thing. Catch a 7 yard slant for a first down.


The Chiefs should restrict him to doing that one thing because Robinson is a quality #3. I love this guy.

He's gonna catch bombs from Mahomes just like he did last year in the preseason.

So you're saying we've found our #2 TE?

NJChiefsFan 08-11-2018 06:04 PM

Robinson got himself wide-open in the PIT game. Pretty big moment had we won the game.

NJChiefsFan 08-11-2018 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13670500)
He had a touchdown that game what are you talking about?

Are Wilson, Robinson and Conley the last 3 WR's with TD catches in the playoffs for us?

Edit: Just thought of Wilson as well.

Chiefshrink 08-11-2018 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 13670385)
We better hope he can block a defensive lineman and then get open for a pass, because ain't nobody throwing deep with their ass on the ground.

:clap::clap::clap: Been saying this for the last few years that our o-line is just soft.:shake:

TEX 08-11-2018 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13670788)
:clap::clap::clap: Been saying this for the last few years that our o-line is just soft.:shake:

Specifically LG, which makes the LT play even softer. :shake:

KChiefs1 08-11-2018 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13670485)
Robinson seems to shine against JAG types or when games are meaningless. Ive seen him drop way too many when KC really needed it. He has talent, so maybe he puts it together enough to contribute on a consistent basis. Id settle for that.



Fake News

lcarus 08-11-2018 08:35 PM

Superstar? I doubt it. Solid WR? There's hope for that.

Best22 08-11-2018 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13670787)
Are Wilson, Robinson and Conley the last 3 WR's with TD catches in the playoffs for us?

Edit: Just thought of Wilson as well.

Yes they are. And before them, it was Donnie Avery and Bowe

ROFL

Chief Northman 08-11-2018 09:02 PM

I hope Veach can trade Conley to Cleveland for a 3rd. Coleman out, and uncertainty around Gordon. D-Rob will play his way into significant snaps if he can build chemistry with Mahomes.

NJChiefsFan 08-11-2018 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13671033)
I hope Veach can trade Conley to Cleveland for a 3rd. Coleman out, and uncertainty around Gordon. D-Rob will play his way into significant snaps if he can build chemistry with Mahomes.

Aren't they sniffing around Dez.

OldSchool 08-12-2018 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13671033)
I hope Veach can trade Conley to Cleveland for a 3rd. Coleman out, and uncertainty around Gordon. D-Rob will play his way into significant snaps if he can build chemistry with Mahomes.

At best, you'll get a conditional 6th rounder for a guy like Conley.

Chiefshrink 08-12-2018 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 13670812)
Specifically LG, which makes the LT play even softer. :shake:

Yep. 2015 was a weak schedule and we took advantage with a good record thus not allowing our o-line to be really exposed. 2016 and 17 much tougher schedules and it has exposed our lack of nasty talent along the o-line. Andy's chickens have come home to roost waiting on this o-line to develop and I assure he is very quietly disappointed and worried at this point.

Bottom line: There just isn't any nasty talent along this o-line,PERIOD

rabblerouser 08-12-2018 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13671331)
Yep. 2015 was a weak schedule and we took advantage with a good record thus not allowing our o-line to be really exposed. 2016 and 17 much tougher schedules and it has exposed our lack of nasty talent along the o-line. Andy's chickens have come home to roost waiting on this o-line to develop and I assure he is very quietly disappointed and worried at this point.

Bottom line: There just isn't any nasty talent along this o-line,PERIOD

We need Richie Incognito to come out of retirement and play LG.

bricks 08-12-2018 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 13671331)
Yep. 2015 was a weak schedule and we took advantage with a good record thus not allowing our o-line to be really exposed. 2016 and 17 much tougher schedules and it has exposed our lack of nasty talent along the o-line. Andy's chickens have come home to roost waiting on this o-line to develop and I assure he is very quietly disappointed and worried at this point.

Bottom line: There just isn't any nasty talent along this o-line,PERIOD

Amen. I said this a long time ago. You know it.

Kiimo 08-13-2018 01:07 PM

I'm seeing some posts in here which absolutely demonstrate why you have such low reputation.

Conley is Elvis Grbac and Robinson is Rich Gannon.

Trust your eyes.

Hammock Parties 08-13-2018 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13672860)
I'm seeing some posts in here which absolutely demonstrate why you have such low reputation.

Conley is Elvis Grbac and Robinson is Rich Gannon.

Trust your eyes.

Great comparison.

Conley has all the measurables but there's just something missing on the field.

Titty Meat 08-13-2018 06:38 PM

Conley averaged 16 yards a catch last year and was money on 3rd downs.

Hammock Parties 08-13-2018 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13673401)
Conley averaged 16 yards a catch last year and was money on 3rd downs.

On 11 catches ROFL

Titty Meat 08-13-2018 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13673406)
On 11 catches ROFL

You're right. He was a 4th option he sucked and wasnt productive at all.

WhiteWhale 08-13-2018 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13673164)
Great comparison.

Conley has all the measurables but there's just something missing on the field.

Conley is big, fast, and he can jump.

Robinson gets open. He dropped too many easy passes and seems to make easy catches more complicated than the should be (by jumping or some other unnecessary wasted movement) but can make TOUGH catches very well.

He's a much more instinctive player but I'm not seeing superstar on him.

It's going to be hard for any WR to get that status cos I fully expect Tyreek to put up great numbers this year. Something like 85/1400/10

Couch-Potato 08-13-2018 06:46 PM

This is what I love about Chiefs Nation... Every year before preseason our fandom truly believes THIS is the year, and we constantly over value middling talent because we're such homers.

CrowbarMan 08-13-2018 06:46 PM

Team went to shit last year when Conley got hurt and Robinson came in. A few picks due to 'miscommunications' - likely a code word for the receiver ran the wrong route. Especially if he's just finally understanding the playbook now.

WhiteWhale 08-13-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CrowbarMan (Post 13673420)
Team went to shit last year when Conley got hurt and Robinson came in. A few picks due to 'miscommunications' - likely a code word for the receiver ran the wrong route. Especially if he's just finally understanding the playbook now.

I think Robinson and Smith had an extreme lack of rapport/timing. Cos Robinson was open a lot and Alex would just whiff.

*coughsteelerscough*

Red Dawg 08-13-2018 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13673421)
I think Robinson and Smith had an extreme lack of rapport/timing. Cos Robinson was open a lot and Alex would just whiff.

*coughsteelerscough*

Funny how many many WRs had a lack of rapport with Smith.

Red Dawg 08-13-2018 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13673418)
This is what I love about Chiefs Nation... Every year before preseason our fandom truly believes THIS is the year, and we constantly over value middling talent because we're such homers.

I wish I could feel way but we are in transition and probably starting 0-4.

CrowbarMan 08-13-2018 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13673421)
I think Robinson and Smith had an extreme lack of rapport/timing. Cos Robinson was open a lot and Alex would just whiff.

*coughsteelerscough*

Definitely bad against the steelers. Line was also terrible that game.

UChieffyBugger 08-13-2018 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13673416)
Conley is big, fast, and he can jump.

Robinson gets open. He dropped too many easy passes and seems to make easy catches more complicated than the should be (by jumping or some other unnecessary wasted movement) but can make TOUGH catches very well.

He's a much more instinctive player but I'm not seeing superstar on him.

It's going to be hard for any WR to get that status cos I fully expect Tyreek to put up great numbers this year. Something like 85/1400/10

That's a complete and utter myth. He only dropped one "easy" catch last year and the rest were damn near impossible to catch.

CrowbarMan 08-13-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13673425)
Funny how many many WRs had a lack of rapport with Smith.

You saying he didn't have a rapport with Hill most of the season?

Kiimo 08-13-2018 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13673418)
This is what I love about Chiefs Nation... Every year before preseason our fandom truly believes THIS is the year, and we constantly over value middling talent because we're such homers.

But enough about Conley

Kiimo 08-13-2018 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CrowbarMan (Post 13673436)
You saying he didn't have a rapport with Hill most of the season?

He did have a rapport with Hill.

It was called "underthrowing a wide open Tyreek Hill who is so fast he scored anyway"

Titty Meat 08-13-2018 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13673418)
This is what I love about Chiefs Nation... Every year before preseason our fandom truly believes THIS is the year, and we constantly over value middling talent because we're such homers.

Robinson and Conley as 4th,5th,6th options are great. Especially a guy who can get you 16 yards a catch and was money on 3rd down.

Rain Man 08-13-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13673418)
This is what I love about Chiefs Nation... Every year before preseason our fandom truly believes THIS is the year, and we constantly over value middling talent because we're such homers.

But this really is the year, so it's different.

Chiefshrink 08-13-2018 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CrowbarMan (Post 13673433)
Definitely bad against the steelers. Line was also terrible that game.

Our line will always be exposed against big tough physical d-lines.:rolleyes:

WhiteWhale 08-13-2018 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13673425)
Funny how many many WRs had a lack of rapport with Smith.

Huh? Pretty much every WR except for Robinson had a catch rate over 65%.

He just seemed more in tune with Mahomes, and I hope that translates. I was very disappointed when he actually had the opportunity to start.

WhiteWhale 08-13-2018 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 13673434)
That's a complete and utter myth. He only dropped one "easy" catch last year and the rest were damn near impossible to catch.

Stop it.

When he started against Denver the first ****ing pass from Mahomes bounced right off his chest.

And that wasn't the first.

I was very high after last year in preseason and training camp. He came out and caught 21 balls on 39 attempts for barely 10 yards a catch. Whoopie-do. Go prove it. He's not a rookie. He's started games. If he wants 500 yards, he'll have to do it on less than 100 targets.

kccrow 08-13-2018 10:47 PM

Let's see if he can become any type of legitimate NFL receiver before we think about superstar... ****.. he hasn't shown anything remotely resembling superstar to date. I'm not discounting that he could have an Adam Thielen-like meteoric rise, but it's not likely given the plethora of weapons ahead of him.

Chief Pagan 08-13-2018 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13673418)
This is what I love about Chiefs Nation... Every year before preseason our fandom truly believes THIS is the year, and we constantly over value middling talent because we're such homers.

We'll not be fine.

Hammock Parties 08-14-2018 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13673655)
I was very high after last year in preseason and training camp. He came out and caught 21 balls on 39 attempts for barely 10 yards a catch. Whoopie-do.

Alex Smith.

UChieffyBugger 08-14-2018 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13673655)
Stop it.

When he started against Denver the first ****ing pass from Mahomes bounced right off his chest.

And that wasn't the first.

I was very high after last year in preseason and training camp. He came out and caught 21 balls on 39 attempts for barely 10 yards a catch. Whoopie-do. Go prove it. He's not a rookie. He's started games. If he wants 500 yards, he'll have to do it on less than 100 targets.

I already debunked the notion that he dropped "easy" catches in a debate I had a few weeks ago. I specifically went through most of the targets he had and the "drops" were mainly very tough throws/impossible to catch. If you would like to provide evidence that supports your claims then please do so. Because I still maintain that he never dropped more than one easy catch last year which came against Denver.

CrowbarMan 08-14-2018 07:55 AM

He dropped 10 percent of catchable passes in college and had 2 official drops last year.

It's only preseason in one thread, and look how awesome he is in preseason in another. Prediction - you guys will turn on him before the end of the season, and Watkins too.

KChiefs1 08-14-2018 08:39 AM

He looked good in the playoff game.

Maybe he's a budding superstar, maybe he isn't.

NJChiefsFan 08-14-2018 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13673418)
This is what I love about Chiefs Nation... Every year before preseason our fandom truly believes THIS is the year, and we constantly over value middling talent because we're such homers.

This post probably exists is 20+ NFL team message boards right now.

WhiteWhale 08-14-2018 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13673698)
Alex Smith.

Why was he impacted exclusively? Is he allergic to Alex Smith?

WhiteWhale 08-14-2018 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 13673729)
I already debunked the notion that he dropped "easy" catches in a debate I had a few weeks ago. I specifically went through most of the targets he had and the "drops" were mainly very tough throws/impossible to catch. If you would like to provide evidence that supports your claims then please do so. Because I still maintain that he never dropped more than one easy catch last year which came against Denver.

Nobody has a debate on a discussion board. Debates are formal and moderated. You have discussions on discussion boards.

Hopefully he can become a good role player. He has the talent.

He'll be lucky to get 39 targets this season, so he better do better than 21 catches and 212 yards even if he DOES start in the slot. I'm not really interested in going through every snap of a guy who MIGHT get 400 yards if he plays really well, so you can have that win.

DJJasonp 08-14-2018 01:23 PM

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Buckweath 08-14-2018 01:23 PM

I think he definitly has the potential to become a high-end #2 WR. Remember, he is two years younger than Conley too.

Hammock Parties 08-14-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13674162)
Why was he impacted exclusively? Is he allergic to Alex Smith?

No, but there were multiple plays last year where Robinson was running wide open for huge gains and Alex missed him, or threw to him, and missed the throw.

ThaVirus 08-14-2018 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13670692)
There's a guy I want you to meet. His name is ShitShirlock, first name No.

I like the effort here but it's gonna be a no for me, dawg.

PAChiefsGuy 08-14-2018 06:36 PM

I'll believe it when I see it. His rookie season he was okay nothing spectacular so I'm not going to get too excited just yet.

Red Dawg 08-14-2018 09:44 PM

Robinson is good and has been under utilized. Smith was that bad at hitting WRs. He needs playing time with the ones.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-14-2018 09:53 PM

Robinson will get significant opportunity because either Watkins or Conley will be injured.

suzzer99 10-21-2023 10:48 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rams WR Demarcus Robinson reportedly was robbed at gunpoint on Friday, with $100K in jewelry stolen, per <a href="https://twitter.com/TMZ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TMZ</a>. <a href="https://t.co/wbry0Pe7DR">https://t.co/wbry0Pe7DR</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1715731944015614280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

When confronted, D-rob ran inexplicably ran towards the attacker.

Jewish Rabbi 10-21-2023 11:54 AM

What a ****in reeruned thread by a reeruned poster

Warpaint69 10-21-2023 11:58 AM

Oooof just a bit of a misguided take

carcosa 10-21-2023 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17179674)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rams WR Demarcus Robinson reportedly was robbed at gunpoint on Friday, with $100K in jewelry stolen, per <a href="https://twitter.com/TMZ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TMZ</a>. <a href="https://t.co/wbry0Pe7DR">https://t.co/wbry0Pe7DR</a></p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1715731944015614280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

When confronted, D-rob ran inexplicably ran towards the attacker.

I heard he ran neither away nor towards, but in a 3rd, even less effective direction

Megatron96 10-21-2023 01:42 PM

Sucks for DRob. Though, maybe don’t wear 100k worth of jewelry?


Pat averaged A pretty solid 106+ passer rating with DRob while he was here, and around 450 yds/season.


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