No, he's not. Reid isn't going to fire Sutton next year either.

The Titans drove up and down the field in the first half. We got bailed out by drops and poor Tennessee route running. Second half was predictable assuming that Tennessee fix its miscues, which they did

The Steelers game was a joke . We were lucky to be close. Horrible play calling from Haley kept that game close. One punt?

This unit actually allowed more yards than they did. Oh yeah, 2 of the 4 worst choke jobs in playoff history.

You are trying to find reasons to blame a defense that got the team to 12-4 playing the same style of ball.

The offense failed in that game. Not the defense. Period.

This is all misguided anger because people are still mad about the Jets and Raiders games.

This defense is viewed a lot differently if the offense had held up it's end of the bargain in three games the D had presented on a silver platter for a W.

21-3 at half. Both sides did their part in the 1st half and completely shit the bed in the 2nd half. Complete team failure. 2 of the 4 worst choke jobs in playoff history.

Smith and Sutton both need to pack their bags.

Both failed.

Why people need to make it black and white is beyond me.

A defense holding a team under 20 is not failing.

Allowing 22 is worse, obviously, but not a disaster. A great many teams have gone on Super Bowl runs with their defense allowing 22 or even 23 or 24 points in a game!

*gasp* the horror!

We might very-well be there. Sometimes the fans have to stop a raping they see happening.

It's too bad that we're there, but I think we are. It's not like Hunt's smart enough to know he has to tell is employees that Sutton's gone...

Sutton =/ GROB

Sutton makes the most out of a defense lacking talent. This unit performed to it's capacity. It's tough to call plays with Frank Zombo-sized holes in the front seven.

Kpassagnon didn't play a single snap after bitchslapping the Broncos first round LT around. Utter failure at utilizing talent.

By this logic, the defense failed in 1/3 of our games this year allowed 27 or more points.

Gotta disagree with you here. The old ****er was so stupid he thought dropping Houston into coverage was more effective than rushing him. That's dumb, and not up for debate, so there are a lot of things that make Sutton as dumb, if not more stupid, than the shithole GROB.

Say what you want. Context matters. You want us to use it when it's convenient for you and ignore it when it isn't.

Smith needs to go. Doesn't mean the defense did its job in the 2nd half.

Not really. Their performances in NE and against the Texans were not failures.

Those 18 points is top 5 in the NFL. Nearly 4 and a half years hovering around the top 5 in points.

Clay is right, but it is probably time to let Werthers go

In the regular season against non-playoff teams

The 2003 Chiefs held many opponents to similar point totals in the regular season

Are you sure about that?

2003 Chiefs Defense: 332 points against with 5707 yards allowed.

2017 Chiefs Defense: 339 points against with 5842 yards allowed.

Looks frighteningly similar to me.

You need to account for era, and playoff performance.

This defense is far better at stopping teams from scoring in a far more pass-happy era.

And they didn't allow 38 ****in' points.

Really moderators? Really?

Need to account for era but don't need to account for the context of when they gave up the points in games. Ok.

I'm not even hell bent on firing the guy. I think it's time but I won't freak. But your convenient use of your logic is impressive at times.

Offense bailed them out in those games.

Total points scored in 2017: 11,190: Average of 21.8 points per team per game.

Total points scored in 2003: 10,666: Average of 20.8 points per team per game.

Wow, such difference.

Playoff performance? You mean 2 of the biggest choke jobs in history? You mean when they allowed 45 points to the Colts?

ROFL

The edge and attitude are not there, for that alone they should consider replacing Sutton. It's unlikely the emotion comes back even with Berry. We need an attacking defense with some attitude, at least that is what I'd like to see.

We keep waiting for white smoke out of 1 Arrowhead Way, but so far the wagons are still tight and no smoke at all, much less white smoke. Hell, there's no sign of life actually...

Sutton's squad only allowed 3 points in the first half compared to the Patriot's 7. Dilly-Dilly!

The stats don't lie.

The Chiefs D is soft. When it counts, they can't make a stop. Bob Sutton is a nice, thoughtful man who has put together nice defenses when 100% healthy. He seems slow to make in-game adjustments and is less aggressive with blitz packages as every year passes. He became more aggressive this year after Chiefs fans and media were screaming for his job. Andy Reid will be more involved with the offense than ever this next year. Sutton will be on his own. And when left on his own, he drops Justin Houston into coverage. The team needs a change. Andy doesn't. If Sutton isn't fired, Clark got rolled.

Clark gets nearly $100M to get rolled then, and takes the rolling without a fight.

But I think that's wrong, the fans are getting rolled, not Clark. 48 years of being rolled at that.

48 years and Clarke does a very Hunt thing - hides.

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Lol. I said I wanted a fresh start from Bob dipshit. Although I can see why they would keep him another year because his defenses were the main reason for our success the previous 4 years.

And I was just stating what I think Reid is going to do. Are you legally blind?

The Chiefs also aren't going to release a statement that they aren't fining someone either. Come on, dude. The closest thing you'll get is perhaps Andy addressing it if he's asked directly, "Will Bob Sutton be the DC here next year." Even then, he'd probably respond with something like, "Listen, we are constantly reviewing the roster and the coaches. We've got to do better and that starts with me. That's how we roll."

This is the flyer the Chiefs will include in their season ticket renewal package. Holy shit, what a loser organization.

I am pretty excited to watch grandpa fill his depends over and over next year. Things are gonna change, I can feel it!

I think they're growing concerned that for the last 5-10 years we've been able to give their bullshit speech better, and faster, than they can.

Again, the Clarks just go back the the never-ending well of of strategery that dictates that they circle the wagons, hunker down in the hole, plan for a change or two, then hibernate until the draft. They've even gone as far as adding no-snore strips to this annual sleep cycle.

In the end the Clarks know they've been able to rely on the good hearts of the great people of Kansas City for forgive the previous year's, and now 48 years, of not getting it done.

Yes they did...to a bad NY Jets team.

A few of those TD drive preventing holding calls the Pats draw every week would be nice.

Again, they don't have to release a statement. Reid, veach, hunt everybody in that damn organization is getting peppered by the media asking if Suttons job is safe. One person has to answer a simple question. If Suttons job was entirely safe, why wouldn't the Chiefs defend him? Reid is a loyal guy. And wouldn't he be worried about someone like al harris would be worried about his job, and might join another staff? It sounds to me like the Chiefs org intentionally told the entire organization to say nothing to the press. That seems pretty unusual to me. All it takes is one answer to a simple question to shut up all the rumors, mostly bad.

I think the leadership inside the circled wagons are hearing the hooves of the mounted riders who are outside the circle, but that still doesn't mean their arrogance won't win-out (again).

And even if they do replace Sutton, it's not going to turn Andy into Bill Belicheat. Don't get me wrong, replacing Sutton is the right thing to do, but Andy needs to go too. He's just too soft on his players.

Sorry, that's the Kraft boardroom effect that Clark won't ever get with enough consistency to land us in the SB. We'll get a sprinkling of calls, just enough to allow a couple of lawyers to claim that we got "some", but not enough. And it doesn't help that Andy isn't smart enough to design plays intended to either work or get a favorable call by the NFL's paid officials. It's just above his mental capacity.

So while the NFL's officials call everything they see, but only see what they want, it's up to the coach to help them see things, then call them out when they don't. Even if it results in a fine (that a real owner would pay).

OK. They don't care about rumors. They care about empty stadiums.

For the record, I'm for a DC change, if there's a better option.

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I want Sutton gone like everyone else but Smith is a far bigger issue. We could have win 3 more games if he wasn't the QB. His ass is just not going to win a game in crunch time. Mahomes will change that.

Spot on, but...He s gonna get.......Clayed!

2 of the 4 worst choke jobs in playoff history.

Seattle fired their defensive coordinator. Definitely wouldn't want to take a look at him. No way.

A few baseball bats at the podium would get the point across, I believe.