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PHOG 01-10-2018 03:54 PM

:facepalm: Again

carcosa 01-10-2018 03:55 PM

This country went in the toilet when people stopped reading Slylock Fox. Nobody can spot the differences anymore.

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Ming the Merciless 01-10-2018 04:06 PM

boom shakalaka

TLO 01-10-2018 04:21 PM

Hoo Boy LMAO

TLO 01-10-2018 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 13351950)
Facebook and Bing, WTF??

I saw a report on Facebook Marketplace as well. Seemed legit!

MahiMike 01-10-2018 04:27 PM

Schweet!

ptlyon 01-10-2018 04:28 PM

I bet I could eat a 80 lb lobster...

FloridaMan88 01-10-2018 04:31 PM

I didn't realize that Bob Sutton was that relevant nationally (outside of Chiefs circles) for someone to create a fake Twitter account to report fake news about him.

jjchieffan 01-10-2018 04:42 PM

I wonder if we would be calling for Sutton's head if Berry hadn't gotten hurt. I mean, look at our defense in game one. We shut down the Pats. Gronk was a non factor. Brady looked done. But then, the defense went to shit. Berry is an amazing athlete. Bob knows this and his defense was built on that. When Berry went down, Sutton's schemes failed. There was no replacing Eric Berry. In the past, DJ and Houston were dominating and that would have helped compensate for the loss. Remember when Cam Chancellor was in his prime and holding out? That dominant Seattle defense suddenly didn't look so great. That being said, I want Sutton gone because I'm sick of seeing Justin Houston in coverage. But I do believe that the defense will look better next year with Berry back whether Sutton stays or goes.

jjchieffan 01-10-2018 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13352426)
I didn't realize that Bob Sutton was that relevant nationally (outside of Chiefs circles) for someone to create a fake Twitter account to report fake news about him.

It was probably someone who posts on CP doing it just to troll us.

raybec 4 01-10-2018 04:45 PM

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srvy 01-10-2018 04:46 PM

I suppose when the Chiefs announce something then we will know. The one thing I haven't seen is a vote of confidence from anyone in the Chiefs organization unless I missed it. Perhaps their target is still coaching in the playoffs.

ChiefsLV 01-10-2018 05:07 PM

I don't want it to be #fakenews, but I'll believe it anyway because it's comforting.

NJChiefsFan 01-10-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13352001)
does anyone not know what a ****ing credible news source is. Let me help facebook and fake twitters are not credible source

Let me get a pen.

ping2000 01-10-2018 06:20 PM

Push his chair into traffic. Get this over with.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2018 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13352457)
I suppose when the Chiefs announce something then we will know. The one thing I haven't seen is a vote of confidence from anyone in the Chiefs organization unless I missed it. Perhaps their target is still coaching in the playoffs.

In the category of "wishful thinking", the Vikings (Zimmer's son would be fantastic), or the Steelers/Titans are still in the playoffs. Would not mind for a second poaching one of those guys. All very aggressive defenses.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2018 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13352680)
In the category of "wishful thinking", the Vikings (Zimmer's son would be fantastic), or the Steelers/Titans are still in the playoffs. Would not mind for a second poaching one of those guys. All very aggressive defenses.

Why the **** does Sutton still need to be on the payroll if this is indeed the case? Keep the seat warm?

CaliforniaChief 01-10-2018 07:00 PM

You guys are falling for "rapshert" again? It's a fake account.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352689)
Why the **** does Sutton still need to be on the payroll if this is indeed the case? Keep the seat warm?

Does that really give any benefit other than easing fans' minds? We have some good coaches on defense. Firing Sutton makes those guys immediately available. Here's a crazy thought... What if Gary Gibbs helps deliver Adam Zimmer?

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2018 07:12 PM

If I'm Adam Zimmer, a young inexperienced DC, I want a steady hand on the coaching staff who I trust. A guy I've worked closely with before. A guy who has experience coordinating defenses. I wonder wonder who fits that description.

srvy 01-10-2018 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352689)
Why the **** does Sutton still need to be on the payroll if this is indeed the case? Keep the seat warm?

Big difference in a firing and going out on your own terms by retirement. Why do you need him off the premises so bad? He my be doing after season evaluations meeting with players etc. We just dont know if he is staying of going, we do know he hasnt been fired.

Hammock Parties 01-10-2018 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13352717)
Does that really give any benefit other than easing fans' minds? We have some good coaches on defense. Firing Sutton makes those guys immediately available. Here's a crazy thought... What if Gary Gibbs helps deliver Adam Zimmer?

We have enough skins on the wall with the defense the last five years to keep this staff intact.

I truly believe if they add one OLB, one CB and get Berry back ~90% we'll be back strong.

The defense was the backbone of this team from 2013-2016. It sure wasn't the QB.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2018 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13352717)
Does that really give any benefit other than easing fans' minds? We have some good coaches on defense. Firing Sutton makes those guys immediately available. Here's a crazy thought... What if Gary Gibbs helps deliver Adam Zimmer?

Every single coach on that staff can get ****ed as far as I'm concerned. DL are soft and shit in the run game, outside of Ragland our LB core has regressed, and the secondary outside of Peters is a rotating wheel of sadness, and on a whole the "tackling" effort this team gives is pathetic.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2018 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13352741)
Big difference in a firing and going out on your own terms by retirement. Why do you need him off the premises so bad? He my be doing after season evaluations meeting with players etc. We just dont know if he is staying of going, we do know he hasnt been fired.

Because I ****ing hate him for his part in embarrassing the team twice in the playoffs. Have I not made that clear enough?

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ping2000 (Post 13352613)
Push his chair into traffic. Get this over with.

He wouldn't be that bad if we gave him some Wurther's (originals), have Jeopardy on at 4:30 with his meds and Metamücil, and RUN THE ****ING BALL WITH KHUNT IN THE 4TH QUARTER!

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2018 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352743)
Every single coach on that staff can get ****ed as far as I'm concerned. DL are soft and shit in the run game, outside of Ragland our LB core has regressed, and the secondary outside of Peters is a rotating wheel of sadness, and on a whole the "tackling" effort this team gives is pathetic.

You wouldn't keep Gibbs and staff if it delivered Adam Zimmer? Adding the Zimmer scheme would be a boner and a half.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13352748)
You wouldn't keep Gibbs and staff if it delivered Adam Zimmer? Adding the Zimmer scheme would be a boner and a half.

If Reid is gone, then I'm in.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2018 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13352748)
You wouldn't keep Gibbs and staff if it delivered Adam Zimmer? Adding the Zimmer scheme would be a boner and a half.

I'm ****ing done with this defense and the shit they do that pissed me off. I. Want. Them. All. Gone.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352745)
Because I ****ing hate him for his part in embarrassing the team twice in the playoffs. Have I not made that clear enough?

Who, Reid?

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352752)
I'm ****ing done with this defense and the shit they do that pissed me off. I. Want. Them. All. Gone.

Won't matter a lick if Reidtard is still HC.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-10-2018 07:25 PM

I'd bet that Andy won't fire Bob because then that might put his son's job in danger... unless of course you just promote from within, but who is really that good of a candidate on the staff right now? He'd just keep Bob as opposed to that.

It sucks but that's probably reality.

srvy 01-10-2018 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352743)
Every single coach on that staff can get ****ed as far as I'm concerned. DL are soft and shit in the run game, outside of Ragland our LB core has regressed, and the secondary outside of Peters is a rotating wheel of sadness, and on a whole the "tackling" effort this team gives is pathetic.

I cant disagree with any of the above. I will say that for the most part tackling around the league is bad as a whole. I think because of focus of the strip and creating turnovers.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2018 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13352753)
Who, Reid?

3 main culprits. Smith. Reid. Sutton. In that order. Smith is gone barring an absolute disaster, I'd rather let Mahomes finish developing before firing Reid, and Sutton has no redeeming value to me anymore.

srvy 01-10-2018 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352745)
Because I ****ing hate him for his part in embarrassing the team twice in the playoffs. Have I not made that clear enough?

Players also had a big part in this.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2018 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13352755)
I'd bet that Andy won't fire Bob because then that might put his son's job in danger... unless of course you just promote from within, but who is really that good of a candidate on the staff right now? He'd just keep Bob as opposed to that.

It sucks but that's probably reality.

If only there were a DC candidate out there who has already worked with most of the Chiefs' defensive assistants who would be more than happy to keep the entire defensive staff intact. Cough cough... Adam Zimmer.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13352756)
I cant disagree with any of the above. I will say that for the most part tackling around the league is bad as a whole. I think because of focus of the strip and creating turnovers.

It's because they don't practice anymore, post 2011 - same reason there's so many season ending injuries, especially early.

It's watered the whole thing down.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13352761)
Players also had a big part in this.

So did the refs.

Thus, it's not a theory. Just a conspiracy.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13352762)
If only there were a DC candidate out there who has already worked with most of the Chiefs' defensive assistants who would be more than happy to keep the entire defensive staff intact. Cough cough... Adam Zimmer.

My buddy wolfy keeps hollering about them Ryan boys.

I tell him it's the same system, he says he don't care, he likes the attitude. I asked which one?

He goes "It don't matter."

Ftr, I'd rather have Zimmer or just keep Sutton...and fire Reid.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2018 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352752)
I'm ****ing done with this defense and the shit they do that pissed me off. I. Want. Them. All. Gone.

We never had these issues with tackling or any of that shit in previous years. You can see it in the players' faces. You can see it in Peters jawing off at Sutton. The players lost total faith in the scheme.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2018 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13352769)
My buddy wolfy keeps hollering about them Ryan boys.

I tell him it's the same system, he says he don't care, he likes the attitude. I asked which one?

He goes "It don't matter."

If the Lombardi rumor has any legs, the Chiefs are looking outside the Ryan scheme. If they were looking that direction, they would have taken a serious look at Pettine. The Zimmer scheme is one of the most innovative schemes out there.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2018 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13352754)
Won't matter a lick if Reidtard is still HC.

Even with how infuriating he is at times, Reid managed a solid stretch of playoff competency when he had McNabb and Johnson. We just might have the McNabb part of the equation. Let's go and find our Johnson.

chiefzilla1501 01-10-2018 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352772)
Even with how infuriating he is at times, Reid managed a solid stretch of playoff competency when he had McNabb and Johnson. We just might have the McNabb part of the equation. Let's go and find our Johnson.

Funny you mention that.... I wonder which defense most resembles Jim Johnson's....
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ne...b-a87a3614f793
"When you study a Mike Zimmer defense, you see a lot of the same hallmarks of Johnson’s scheme. With Zimmer, the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, it all starts with their aggressive pressure package. The foundation of what they do is based on what is termed as A-gap pressure, which is basically attacking a quarterback right up the middle. A gaps are the two spaces directly to the left and right of the center, between the two guards. The reason for this is simple, the A gaps provide the shortest path to the quarterback. By constantly threatening that space, Zimmer’s teams are always aiming to be in a quarterback’s face and disrupting the action."

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13352770)
The players lost total faith in the scheme.

Vs Jets, it appeared that Peters lost faith in the refs to call an impartial game...

At a glance.

I didn't watch him throw the flag into the stands 30+ times on various media outlets or anything.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13352771)
If the Lombardi rumor has any legs, the Chiefs are looking outside the Ryan scheme. If they were looking that direction, they would have taken a serious look at Pettine. The Zimmer scheme is one of the most innovative schemes out there.

I'd take Zimmer in a HEARTBEAT.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13352773)
Funny you mention that.... I wonder which defense most resembles Jim Johnson's....
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/ne...b-a87a3614f793
"When you study a Mike Zimmer defense, you see a lot of the same hallmarks of Johnson’s scheme. With Zimmer, the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, it all starts with their aggressive pressure package. The foundation of what they do is based on what is termed as A-gap pressure, which is basically attacking a quarterback right up the middle. A gaps are the two spaces directly to the left and right of the center, between the two guards. The reason for this is simple, the A gaps provide the shortest path to the quarterback. By constantly threatening that space, Zimmer’s teams are always aiming to be in a quarterback’s face and disrupting the action."

**** it, fire Reid and hire Adam Zimmer!!

BryanBusby 01-10-2018 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352772)
Let's go and find our Johnson.

I know where mine is at, but best of luck to you on finding yours.

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13352758)
3 main culprits. Smith. Reid. Sutton. In that order. Smith is gone barring an absolute disaster, I'd rather let Mahomes finish developing before firing Reid, and Sutton has no redeeming value to me anymore.

Can't argue with that.

Sassy Squatch 01-10-2018 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13352779)
I know where mine is at, but best of luck to you on finding yours.

:)

rabblerouser 01-10-2018 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13352779)
I know where mine is at, but best of luck to you on finding yours.

Well.

Played.

Sir

cmh6476 01-10-2018 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 13352700)
You guys are falling for "rapshert" again? It's a fake account.

I'm wondering if that's what profootballrumors saw, and then after realizing retracted and the espn Facebook friend just posted it as he saw it from a trusted source.

If nothing else, if chiefs front office does follow this site then they see how excited we would be if he did retire. They benefit from us getting excited, so maybe this could end up being the straw that broke the camel's back #wishfulthinking

bigjosh 01-11-2018 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13352778)
**** it, fire Reid and hire Adam Zimmer!!

He was with the team in the dark ages, right?

With pioli and Romeo?

Sent from my LGMP450 using Tapatalk

JohnnyV13 01-11-2018 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13352779)
I know where mine is at, but best of luck to you on finding yours.

Well, I could lend him an electron microscope....

bevischief 01-11-2018 03:55 AM

His alzheimer's kicked in bad... Waiting on a good day...


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