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RunKC 09-26-2017 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13106303)
I made it through because I've been a Chiefs fan since birth.

My memories of Charles are the same as those of guys like Gary Spani, Gary Barbaro, Art Still and so many otherwise great players stuck on awful teams.

I'm sure this is difficult to grasp for those younger than me but there was a time when Arrowhead Stadium had about 30,000 people per game.

They also went 15 years between playoff berths. Not 15 years between playoff wins but 15 years without a playoff appearance.

15 years.

I feel bad for Bills fans. It's been 17 years since they have made the playoffs and it's looking like it might be 20 before they get back.

Buehler445 09-26-2017 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13106480)
I feel bad for Bills fans. It's been 17 years since they have made the playoffs and it's looking like it might be 20 before they get back.

They look like the best in the east whenever Brady is done.

They are probably in contention for the WC. They beat Donk (**** Donk Forever) and if they can get 4 on the fish and the LOL I mean Jets, they ought to have as good of shot as anybody.

bricks 09-26-2017 09:18 AM

Kareem Hunt is the best Chiefs RB I've seen period.

At the pace he is going, dude will not only set records but smash them at will.

He is the most balanced RB I've seen. He has everything you could ask for in RB. The dude is elusive and makes people miss in the open field, he runs tough and isn't afraid to throw a stiff arm or two in the open field. He is a good north, south runner and bulldozes over guys in that process. He could cutback just as good as Charles. He doesn't have the patience or vision like Priest but damn he could hit the open hole with more aggression and explosion.

But more importantly I like his build. He is like a hybrid prototype of Marshan Lynch/Jamaal Charles. He doesn't have the speed like Charles but he ain't that far off. He runs tough like Marshan Lynch and has the body build to take the pounding for those tough short north, south yards. I think he could handle 20-25 touches per game. And lastly, **** Charcandrick West. He could go.

Buehler445 09-26-2017 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 13106676)
Kareem Hunt is the best Chiefs RB I've seen period.

At the pace he is going, dude will not only set records but smash them at will.

He is the most balanced RB I've seen. He has everything you could ask for in RB. The dude is elusive and makes people miss in the open field, he runs tough and isn't afraid to throw a stiff arm or two in the open field. He is a good north, south runner and bulldozes over guys in that process. He could cutback just as good as Charles. He doesn't have the patience or vision like Priest but damn he could hit the open hole with more aggression and explosion.

But more importantly I like his build. He is like a hybrid prototype of Marshan Lynch/Jamaal Charles. He doesn't have the speed like Charles but he ain't that far off. He runs tough like Marshan Lynch and has the body build to take the pounding for those tough short north, south yards. I think he could handle 20-25 touches per game. And lastly, **** Charcandrick West. He could go.

ROFL

You appear to not have seen Jamaal Charles run the ball.

I mean the kid has vastly exceeded my expectations, and I'm thrilled. But come on man.

bricks 09-26-2017 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13106704)
ROFL

You appear to not have seen Jamaal Charles run the ball.

I mean the kid has vastly exceeded my expectations, and I'm thrilled. But come on man.

I've seen Charles play.

Watch the cutback run he did against San Diego for a 69 yard TD, it was beautiful and just as good as Charles. I'm not saying he is as fast as Charles but when hits the open field, he could be just as explosive and nobody has proven to catch him except McCourtey.

Buehler445 09-26-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 13106755)
I've seen Charles play.

Watch the cutback run he did against San Diego for a 69 yard TD, it was beautiful and just as good as Charles. I'm not saying he is as fast as Charles but when hits the open field, he could be just as explosive and nobody has proven to catch him except McCourtey.

Sorry boss. You're off base.

bricks 09-26-2017 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13106827)
Sorry boss. You're off base.

Hunts speed gets better during his running progressions.

Once he blows by a guy in the open field, its like he changes gears and that is mainly due to his ability to accelerate; which is damn good. At least I've noticed that his speed gets to a new level the more he runs further down field. What he doesn't have on Charles is that first step of explosiveness. Jmo.

Buehler445 09-26-2017 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 13107024)
Hunts speed gets better during his running progressions.

Once he blows by a guy in the open field, its like he changes gears and that is mainly due to his ability to accelerate; which is damn good. At least I've noticed that his speed gets to a new level the more he runs further down field. What he doesn't have on Charles is that first step of explosiveness. Jmo.

The only thing he has on Prime Charles' ability to run through arm tackles. But it's somewhat offset, but Charles' agility to make dudes miss. Over time fumbling will probably be better than Charles, but like I posted earlier, he's on pace to have the same number of fumbles as Charles' worst year.

Everywhere else, Charles was better. That's not to say he isn't a very pleasant surprise or that he can't improve, but you're off base man. Prime Charles was a different species of human than the rest of the guys on the field.

WhiteWhale 09-26-2017 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 13106676)
Kareem Hunt is the best Chiefs RB I've seen period.

At the pace he is going, dude will not only set records but smash them at will.

He is the most balanced RB I've seen. He has everything you could ask for in RB. The dude is elusive and makes people miss in the open field, he runs tough and isn't afraid to throw a stiff arm or two in the open field. He is a good north, south runner and bulldozes over guys in that process. He could cutback just as good as Charles. He doesn't have the patience or vision like Priest but damn he could hit the open hole with more aggression and explosion.

But more importantly I like his build. He is like a hybrid prototype of Marshan Lynch/Jamaal Charles. He doesn't have the speed like Charles but he ain't that far off. He runs tough like Marshan Lynch and has the body build to take the pounding for those tough short north, south yards. I think he could handle 20-25 touches per game. And lastly, **** Charcandrick West. He could go.

Hunt will not keep up this pace. It's not even a reasonable expectation.

If he does, it will be the best season by any RB in the history of the NFL.

The guy is 'on pace' for over 2000 yards on 250 carries.

ThaVirus 09-26-2017 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 13106755)
I've seen Charles play.



Watch the cutback run he did against San Diego for a 69 yard TD, it was beautiful and just as good as Charles. I'm not saying he is as fast as Charles but when hits the open field, he could be just as explosive and nobody has proven to catch him except McCourtey.


He hardly did anything. I don’t even think he was touched.

If you want to claim a rookie is better than Jamaal ****ing Charles after 3 games then you’re going to have to point to something other than that run.

bricks 09-26-2017 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13107038)
The only thing he has on Prime Charles' ability to run through arm tackles. But it's somewhat offset, but Charles' agility to make dudes miss. Over time fumbling will probably be better than Charles, but like I posted earlier, he's on pace to have the same number of fumbles as Charles' worst year.

Everywhere else, Charles was better. That's not to say he isn't a very pleasant surprise or that he can't improve, but you're off base man. Prime Charles was a different species of human than the rest of the guys on the field.

You're entitled to your own opinion and I accept that.

I've only watched two Chiefs games this year but I will say that from what I saw in both the New England and San Diego game, he was stiff arming people and using his agility to make people miss. What should've been 1 or 2 yard losses were turned into 8,9 or 10 yard gains. He did this with toughness, strength, agility and sheer will and determination. We'll see over time how his ability is to protect the ball but we do know that was one of his strong suits coming out of college.

I know this is a small sample size but in 3 games thus far, he has already proven to have more potential with respect to big playmaking ability. Dude has pulled off 3 50 yard plus runs. That's insane! Did Charles do that? Nope. I'm not gonna crown his ass already but I do think he will have an edge over Charles with respect to staying healthy. There is a better chance Hunt will be more durable than Charles because of his frame/build alone. Like I said earlier, I do feel Charles is better in some ways, but I think Hunt has more potential, and is a more balanced complete back.

Buehler445 09-26-2017 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 13107785)
You're entitled to your own opinion and I accept that.

I've only watched two Chiefs games this year but I will say that from what I saw in both the New England and San Diego game, he was stiff arming people and using his agility to make people miss. What should've been 1 or 2 yard losses were turned into 8,9 or 10 yard gains. He did this with toughness, strength, agility and sheer will and determination. We'll see over time how his ability is to protect the ball but we do know that was one of his strong suits coming out of college.

I know this is a small sample size but in 3 games thus far, he has already proven to have more potential with respect to big playmaking ability. Dude has pulled off 3 50 yard plus runs. That's insane! Did Charles do that? Nope. I'm not gonna crown his ass already but I do think he will have an edge over Charles with respect to staying healthy. There is a better chance Hunt will be more durable than Charles because of his frame/build alone. Like I said earlier, I do feel Charles is better in some ways, but I think Hunt has more potential, and is a more balanced complete back.

What Hunt has done is amazing. But you need to go back and watch some Charles highlights.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-27-2017 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 13104305)
Just... let that sink in, mother****ers.

It is unbelievable what this kid is doing.

Having a guy run this well is going to benefit Mahomes immensely when he takes over. The defense can't stack the box, and the defense can't go dime all game either.

He also has 137 yards in the air, too. Guy is just the complete package.

KC has been blessed at RB, man. We had Priest Holmes who had a HOF streak of about four years or so. Larry Johnson set the league on fire for a couple years.

Charles came in and, in my opinion, blew both of them away with his elite speed, versatility and fundamentals.

I think Hunt could somehow end up being the best of the bunch. He lacks Charles' elite speed but he has every bit of Charles' and Holmes' fundamentals, along with Holmes' nose for the end zone. None of them have his ability to shed tackles, though. My god. And he's surrounded by superior weapons than all three enjoyed.

Sky's the limit. This guy is a blast.

You misspelled Fumbles

Simply Red 09-27-2017 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 13108237)
You misspelled Fumbles

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jjchieffan 10-01-2017 03:34 PM

Torn ACL for Cook. I hate to see that. The kid was having a great year.

ct 10-01-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13114929)
Torn ACL for Cook. I hate to see that. The kid was having a great year.

damn shame

siberian khatru 10-01-2017 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13114929)
Torn ACL for Cook. I hate to see that. The kid was having a great year.

It's why I hold my breath every time Hunt carries. Get him, Kelce and Hill to the postseason together and we could be very dangerous.

Rain Man 10-01-2017 03:50 PM

Less competition for Hunt's rookie of the year award.

Hammock Parties 10-01-2017 03:52 PM

Dalvin Cuck

notorious 10-01-2017 03:55 PM

Minnesota has lost their starting QB and starting RB with a horrific injury.

They might be as bad as the Chiefs when it comes to losing stars to injury.

jimidollar 10-01-2017 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13115003)
Less competition for Hunt's rookie of the year award.

Just Watson at this point.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-01-2017 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13114929)
Torn ACL for Cook. I hate to see that. The kid was having a great year.

Just saw the news. Unfortunate injury.

Vikings I felt were the NFC version of the chiefs. Strong D, awesome rookie running back and with receivers that don't get much national attention

displacedinMN 10-01-2017 06:20 PM

“We’re concerned about his ACL but he’s going to get an MRI in the morning and we’ll find out,” Zimmer said, adding: “If you lose a guy like him, you lose a lot of firepower.”


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