I was talking specifically about his drafts.

Unless he stops bring that fat **** his sandwiches...

Being a successful GM is collaborative effort.

While Dorsey's gone, most of the scouts still remain, as does Borgonzi.

They hired Chris Shea as salary cap and legal executive, and Tim Terry as director of pro personnel.

They also promoted Brandt Tilis to director of football administration (replacing Trip MacCracken), Ryan Poles to director of college scouting, Ryne Nutt to assistant director of college scouting, Dan Zegers to college scouting coordinator, Jim Noel to be a pro scout and Daniel Ricci to be a player personnel assistant.

Even if they hadn't fired Dorsey, there was a big front office shake up.

ROFL


pointing out that you are a ****ing idiot isnt getting defensive.


hell i voted for your dumb ass to get to come back...

youre a dumb ass

the distance between DOle and Sauto is greater than that between you and touching a vagina

that means its alot by the way since clearly youre an imbecile

Veach sucks already. 2 hours into his hiring and he hasn't even signed PM2 yet!!

See you in February. LII

I'm good with hiring veach. If he can make the same kind of personnel decisions as Dorsey and manage the cap well, we've got a great gm pick.

But it's silly to undermine the work Dorsey did to justify the hire. He's easily the best gm the Chiefs have had in decades. Clark may have had his reasons for the move but he better be ****ing right. Veach has the qualifications to do it. But the bar is set pretty high if you're going to fire a guy like Dorsey.

Vince Carter just signed a 1 year deal with the Kings so I'm good for now.

Never a Dole moment here.

Veach must have an impressive collection of ties.

Cool were the Eagles

This!! Should we start worrying yet?

Dorsey was Brett Veach plus a decade in experience when he was hired.

There WILL be growing pains with Veach. I hope people realize this

Banned from the thread for disrespect

The difference between you and proper punctuation.......nevermind. You're a lost cause as well.

ROFL

...you're out of your league.

See how you are still posting?

Its called sarcasm you ****ing dolt.

Cool!

I'll take 4 straight AFC Championship appearances and a Super Bowl appearance.

yes , the last hope for a semi reerun who cant even BBQ something without burning his shitty apartment down

a guy who 'can smell gas' on steaks made with with a gas BBQ

I mean...Dole was banning people with more frequency than the blowjobs you give at truck stops

I can't even think of anyone sauto has banned

to even compare them is stupid

Me too hope it's not Eagles post 2009 though

For sure.

How can it be with this roster and our young core?

It's all on Mahomes.

I have heard that is mostly due to the DC who died..

I saw a pretty sad stat where it showed the record of Reid's eagles before and after the guy died, and it was night and day..

Of course I would take that too though..that would be better results than I have seen in my lifetime of 30ish years as a chiefs fan

I banned hootie, once . And gave him every ****ing chance to not get banned.
I also banned knowmo from the mahomes thread when it was started but only for two weeks. I thought we deserved that after how long it had been. He's not a chiefs fan he didn't deserve to come talk shit right then. I didn't ban any fan (or even tigger) because of they didn't like the pick that's their right.


In men doesn't knew what sarcasm means and he's pouty about getting clowned in the royals thread yesterday and I said I was gonna ban him but he would miss the post.

Jim Johnson iirc was who died, hell uva dc.

Yes!! We should fly banners around saying fire Veach.

But if he isn't sign by training camp than there is a problem. He's 1 out of 5 first round picks who aren't signed yet in the NFL

Jim Johnson was outstanding. Losing him was one thing. The big problem was the eagles replaced him with a bunch of rejects. Good news is Reid has a DC now who knows what he's doing.

Anyway, I think it's irrelevant because I dont see veach as installing the eagles way. I'm sure he will model his personnel operation after Dorsey's. That's a good thing. I just hope he can do it as effectively. I don't think Reid has much history meddling with the draft so I don't think that will be an issue. I think veach will be allowed to be his own man.

Wonder if Clark will go with someone else in January if we have a mediocre season. This hire seems temporary to me.

I'd love nothing more than to believe this is true

If this guy and Borgonzi can continue to draft and find scrap heap value at the level Dorsey did (or didnt?)... I will be ecstatic

But in keeping with the spirit of Missouri... they'll need to 'show me' before I buy in

All of this

Or when he nails it "A day at the Veach"

That's false. While Jim Johnson certainly deserves credit, Any Reid and the offense were damn good in Phily.

song idea, i will do voice if dane plays the guitar and we get someone to make the cowbell HELLA loud

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I don't know too much about it, i didn't follow the eagles but the w/l record before and after Johnson's death was pretty convincing ...but its been a few years since i saw the stat

And it's kind of irrelevant since Bob Sutton and the defense continue to be the strength of the team.

Sutton might not be JJ, but he's one of the best currently in the NFL. He's better than Chiefs fans give him credit for.

LMAO

:facepalm:

Doesnt that mesh exactly with what I am saying...?

Johnson was the Strength of the eagles like Sutton is the Strength of the chiefs...

how is it irrelevant when the situation is similar?

I can't wait to yell at casual fan n00b posters who will inevitably call him "Brent Veach"

I'm saying it's irrelevant because it won't be an issue here. He has another really good DC that isn't going anywhere.

its still a relevant comparison that the strength behind reid is his DC once again....just because he isn't 'going anywhere' right now doesn't make that comparison invalid

Reid, like every other offensive minded HC, needs a competent DC to consistently win.

This isn't really that complicated.

youre the one who said it wasn't relevant....what if sutton gets another job or a HC job...then would it be relevant? YOU are the one who said it isnt a relevant comparison. It is. You're right, its not complicated at all.

Sutton has already said that he doesn't want to be a HC, so there are no other jobs. He's never ever even interviewed during his time here.

That is why I said this is irrelevant.

Unlikely perhaps (If I accept what you say that he wouldn't take another job or that there are no jobs he would take other than our DC) , but irrelevant is not the right term for it.

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I actually didn't see the post until now. Just another typical fire joke, smh. Not that great.

Sutton will be here for the remainder of Reid's tenure unless he dies.

WHat if we win the superbowl 3 times with mahomes and a mind blowing D? No one offers the guy a job and/or he refuses to take more money than Clark offers?

How do you know this? This doesn't even have a ring of truth to it...but I guess if you say so...

Bob Sutton is 66 years old. He was the head coach at Army from 1991-1999, where he compiled a 44-54-1 record.

He's stated that he's not interested in becoming a head coach again.

44-54-1 is not a bad record at all for a Service Academy and all the restrictions that go along with recruits to them.

Sweet

I heard this guy didn't even graduate from high school. Chiefs Blackledge it again.

He is very very good at identifying talent. I love listening to his post draft interviews and his thoughts on each pick.

There we go . We won't lose a step .

:rolleyes:

Life's a Veach.

Sutton isn't going anywhere.

He's either going to retire/dies as the DC,

OR

He's going to get fired for poor defense (He'd have to reach Greg Robinson level bad to get that point, which is very unlikely).

That's it. There are no if/and/or/buts.

Philly-west.

The future appears dim.

OMG MY HAIR IS ON FIRE!!!

You do know that Jim Johnson died at the age of 68?

It's probably because you're a mouth-breathing moron.

Yeah, Clark is going to give Veach a 4 year deal only to go with someone else in January. Your fingers should reject whatever signals your brain sends them before you post this constant nonsense.

Veach is a really well regarded guy who has a great eye for talent. He's going to be here multiple years.

We finally have a young QB, with a lot of upper echelon players that aren't in their primes yet and the future is dim?

Jesus.

Exactly. If he wasn't going to get the Chiefs gig, he'd be elsewhere next year.

Also, if Veach succeeds for the next five years, it's likely he'll get to name Reid's successor, who I expect to be his former teammate and current Chiefs co-offensive coordinator, Matt Nagy.

Typical Chiefsplanet dumbassery

I hope he is that diamond in the rough that will finally get a SB title.

Lamar Hunt had two GM's from 1960 until his death in 2006.

Since 2006, Clark Hunt has fired three GM's and hired a 4th.

Clark ain't ****in' around.

I agree our front office was working together. But that being said that would mean Veach was also involved in the 3rd round decision to take a CB over Prescott.

I'm not trying to throw mud on this hire. This was the right move and I'm excited that we have such a deep front office that we can lose our top 2 and still be in a good shape.

However, we did lose our top 2. Even if people want to say Dorsey's flaws were enough to get him fired, having Dorsey, Ballard, and Veach collaborating clearly was a great combination. I personally would have preferred Clark make this "audit" earlier so we could have Ballard and Veach(for as many years we could keep him). Ballard/Veach would sound better to me but who knows if that scenario was ever even possible. I just don't like reading that Clark waited until after Ballard left to assess if he wanted to keep Dorsey. Even if this works out better for us that still is a questionable case of timing.

That won't happen because Brett is a very popular name in KC.


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Boy this was really unexpected! ROFL

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What role will Borgonzi play. We interviewed him as well.

Same role as before

Dorsey unearthed a no-name player seemingly every year after the 53 man cutdowns....I'll reserve judgement until mid-season.

I will say my expectations are pretty low....

son of a veach

its definitely one of the poorest high schools in the state of PA but he definitely graduated/probably one of the smartest/most successful to come from it.

Here's hoping he can be just as good as Dorsey. I'm not holding my breath though.

Considering that it has been speculated that one of the reasons Clark became uncomfortable with Dorsey was because he didn't dress professionally (i.e. preferring to wear a sweatshirt rather than a suit/tie), it is interesting the photo of Veach the Chiefs have on their website in the official press release announcing his promotion to GM...

http://prod.static.chiefs.clubs.nfl....veachgm-cp.jpg

I hate stupid stuff like this.

What does not having the proper dress code have anything to do with his abilities as a gm?

This is an example of one exercising their authority way to far.