<grin> Actually, I'm not a new Chiefs fan--I go back to the Len Dawson, Ed Podolak, Willie Lanier and Buck Buchanan days when Hank Stram coached them to a Super Bowl IV victory over Joe Kapp and the Minnesota Vikings. A childhood buddy of mine grew up in Kansas City and was a rabid Royals and Chiefs fan and convinced me to add KC to my roster of favorites that included Dallas and Green Bay. His dad always said that Hank Stram was the "perfect combination of Vince Lombardi and Tom Landry and that therefore, a coach couldn't get any better."

We lived in Kansas City (Olathe, actually) from 1995 to the last days of 1997. I froze my Texas butt off the first Sunday in January when it was cold, windy and freezing at Arrowhead and we lost to Indianapolis in the first friggin' round of the playoffs.

Martyball worked in the regular season, but it didn't work in the playoffs. I remember the excitement, short-lived, over Elvis Grbac and the calls for Paul Hackett's scalp.

As with the Royals, I've endured some lonely dark seasons cheering the hometown teams of my adopted hometown, but being a Texas Tech alum, I'm used to such emotional elevator rides. :D

I'm as excited as I've ever been to see my alma mater's prize jewel packing his bags and headed for Kansas City!

--JD

Mahomes has high upside but you want to throw him out to the wolves so we ruin his confidence before he fixes his flaws and has any understanding of the playbook.

Dimwit.

And their ballwashing, sycophant fanboys, too. Don't forget that part.

He's not a straight line burner, but QB's are not expected to run 40 yards downfield every play unless they're Michael Vick. Pat does have elite quickness for a QB to extend plays behind the line of scrimmage. Faster 20 yard shuttle time than Christian McCaffrey at the Combine.

Maybe one or two guys are doing in, but Hootiger's narrative groups everyone together.

No, they are welcome as Mahomes is a CHIEFS first round pick, not some used condom from San Francisco, thanks.

Thanks for the write-up, OP.

#4 is particularly intriguing and MOST welcome after the one and done reading skills of our current, used, San Francisco condom.

I like the description that he's more of a scrambler than he is a runner. Could work out to his benefit. Goal line stand he has the power to get into the end zone.

No I want to see how he does in preseason first then if he proves himself I'm hoping we see him sooner than later. I do think he can have success not if we win or lose but how he plays and grows from his mistakes because I know he will make plenty of mistakes but his first year is the time to make them.

I think he is a brilliant kid and can handle the pressures of the NFL. I don't think mid season would be too soon. Maybe not right out of the gates but I'm highly hopeful by years end he will be taking all the snaps. It's not going ruin the kids confidence going out there and take a hit but get him up for the challenge. I think he is a competitor that will thrive in diversity.

He is better than what Alex Smith was in his college years.

Don't want him running. Win from the pocket and use your feet to get out of trouble. Not as a crutch.

Another thing to consider is that Tech O-Line was average in 2015 and horrendous in 2016. So there were plenty of games where the G or the T got plain beat badly, and Mahomes had to bail out to keep the play alive.

Right, that is usually how he operates. He keeps his eyes down field and tries to get the ball to the receivers. But he is willing to make plays with his feet near the goal line.

One flaw in his game that he needs to correct though. Protect your body. He took a number of self-inflicted injuries at Tech because he was not willing to give up on plays. Lower shoulder trying to run over people (injured throwing shoulder). Diving for the end zone (hyperextended knee). He is a warrior though. Played through both of those injuries even though Tech fans thought he would have to sit out at least a few games each time.

Gruden emphasized to him that he really needs to protect himself. The Chiefs want him to be their QB 10 years from now. He won't get there if he keeps taking unnecessary hits and injuries. Try to slide more often, etc.

We're all good then because Clay hated him before the draft.

That backfired on you, huh?

Hey thanks for taking the time to make an account, and type this all out...Your input is very appreciated!

Welcome aboard.

Yah maybe in like 5 more years Alex will reach his ceiling and crack 195 yds per game and 1.5 td per game


I love how a single Mahomie new guy joining and making an intelligent post completely destroys years of Alexsexuals just poting about what a great guy Alex is and how much money he made off the chiefs...LOL

PM2...

Is that for Pat Mahomes, II or Peyton Manning, II....

Coincidence? I think not. ;)


Reid, with Smith in place for this year, is the perfect situation for him.

If he had stayed for his 4th year, he might have been in the discussion for #1 pick next year.

On a sidenote, I should probably see a doctor about my four-day erection...

wow thanks for the write up. Really really loving this pick

Bottom line

Preseason reps in the 4th quarter against 3rd string even if outstanding is not a safe way to determine playability.

Mahomes' nickname at Tech was Patty Ice. Take it or leave it.

https://i.imgur.com/JZZhRhc.png

Yea I saw that in the Gruden video too. The kid has some strange similarities to Kaepernick (seeks contact, baseball experience, arm flexing (ha), struggles with short-medium touch passes). But where Kaep excels in running ability, Mahomes as the advantage in coachability. I'd take the latter any day.

Leave it.

Wildly unoriginal, we can do better than that

LMAO

He is going get to play against first stringers dickwhad.

He will get opportunities in the first halfs in preseason football.

You are such a tool.

Pat was also more accurate passer than Kaep ever was in college. There are long stretches of games where Pat will go on a 80-85% run with his completions. I think his ceiling is off the charts if Reid can fix some of the footwork issues and help him be more consistent. Time will only tell.

Hell it takes Alex Smith into the second quarter most games before he can lead a touchdown drive. ****ing 15 touchdowns 8 interceptions ****ing ****.

And PM2 is original? Ha.

Most of us wanted nothing to do with smith so no you are wrong we are eager
to welcome Mahomes fans.

His nickname is 2PM from an interview I saw.



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How sure are you? Smith played most of those reps outside of the last preseason game. And you're forgetting Bray will be more game ready than PMII.

:clap:

An interesting tidbit in regards to his footwork, I thought, was in the Gruden's Camp video. He was discussing his throw off his back foot, while running to his left, to the back left of the end zone, and said something along the lines of," That is the Short Stop coming out of me." I found that interesting, and that throw is much like a SS throwing to first after a slow-roller.

Now, I am sure Mahomes isn't the first baseball/football player to play QB, but it may actucally give him so leeway on his footwork in the sense of consistency. If that is the case, the footwork is actually intentional and developed, and doesn't appear to affect his accuracy.

I was thinking the exact same thing. I hope he doesn't do ANYTHING w/his mechanics. Just his head and his decision making...

God I can't wait until Alex gets traded to another team and you leave this board forever. I'll even chip in and buy you his new teams jersey. Your love for him is borderline obsessive.

You are 1 post away from my ban list.

Because the Chiefs are going want to test drive or kick the tires on their new Lombardighini that's why.


See what I did there?
:D

24 posts and you act like you've been here...cool. story. girl.

He doesn't need to be better than all those guys 1 year out of college. He only needs to be better than Alex Smith.

Ban Tigger from this thread please. It's not about Alex.

Haha haha the reason Alex Smith played so much is because he couldn't get the offense on a roll so they kept putting him out there to find some kind of success.

Also he didn't have any type of threat of competition for them to give reps too.


I can be sure that Patrick Mahomes II will over take Bray during TC before preseason. They gave up next years first and a third this year for him to move up 17 spots. They will be giving Mahomes ample of opportunities to shine.

24 posts is much better than 7,500 posts of Alex Smith cock gobbling, Princess.

Anyone saying negative things about the first R1 QB we've drafted in 30 years should be automatically dumped from whatever thread they're spreading their filth in.

We don't need that. At all.

Checked out your location. Makes sense now ROFL

Yep, and I originally (foolishly) thought that was a bad thing at the time. The more I watch of him, I see how great an attribute this is. Not only can he wing it with that arm, but it allows him to wait a split second longer which can mean all the difference.

Somebody call the wambulance for the senior citizen

All he needs to be is himself and people will compare future draft picks to him.

All he needs to be is himself and make a name for himself by his play on the football field.


The kid is humble and hungry. Those are attributes he will take on in the NFL.

Same here. I saw that as proof he needed work until I heard the interview. Time will tell if it is an actual benefit, or a perceived one. I still would like it to be ironed out, because you can only go so far in football on physical talent. Once that starts to fade, fundamentals are paramount (much like a shooter vs a dunker in basketball).

Welcome to the board. We just got the Mahomes of new posters so far.

Thank you! I'm like the neighbor that's lived next door for years but never introduced himself, only waved politely when he saw you working in the yard. I'm THAT lazy guy.

Dude, we get it. You like Alex Smith. Its admirable that you stick to it. You dont have to derail every thread to make it all about him though. 90% of chiefs fans are ecstatic that we took a strong armed gunslinger with ACTUAL potential to be great, and you just want to keep talking about Smiths well manicured hands, his ability to set up the punter and his hidden stats. Give it a rest. Stop shitting in everyone's cereal with it.

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Then you really do belong here..... :)

Damn, I guess. 28 posts in 15 years? You're the Anti-Clay. :D

2002 embarrassed I called you new. Sorry

So I'll say the Kurt Warner of postors.

If Bray was really "more game ready" we wouldn't have had Nick Foles or drafted Pat Mahomes.

We've been waiting about 3 years for Bray to be "game ready" and it doesn't look like he is any more ready than he was when he came out of college.

:thumb:

Hog my man, after Mahomes flashes this pre-season your Manziel pain will be gone for sure.:clap:

Meh. Something far cooler will eventually present itself.

Really loving watching Tigger melt down. **** Alex Smith in his hidden cornhole.

That's our pro bowl caliber QB for ya ROFL

Very encouraging stuff, JDK.

I honestly hope dude is everything they think he will be. :thumb:

I want to make an observation without it being taken as a racist comment but as you know there are very few succesful black QB's for whatever reason just as you don't see white RB's WR's or hell anything else except for linemen. Mahommes is mixed so we're getting the best of both worlds here. A smart athletic individual with a wonderful pedigree. God loves the Chiefs now !

Would love to see your writeup on Jace Amaro.

:eek: ... wouldn't touch this racist post with rico's shriveled 2 incher.

So you're saying we don't have to worry about him kneeling during the anthem? Oh wait... Kaepernick is mixed too..

I have a lazy neighbor like you that mows his grass maybe once every six weeks.

Are you lazy like that? Not taking care of your yard because I'll neg rep you if you say yes. That's how much he pisses me off.

Someone on Twitter said, if he's as great as we hope he is, we should start calling him Saint Patrick. I thought that was pretty good, though he'd have to earn it.

He has no brains . Proven fact !

But he's a good game manager.

One of, if not the funniest post I have ever read on this board. ROFLROFLROFL

It's what I do !

actually rico has around 4.5 inches and its girthy tlike a tuna can and rock hard

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ROFL

Was gonna post the same thing. The best of both worlds. I coulda sworn Russell Wilson was the same mix but guess not.

This move and Carrs development ensures Denver is no better than third for looooooong time

I like the new poster in the OP. He says things that I enjoy hearing.

I hope you're right man. Denver is beyond due for a 5 year suckfest.

More than anything, I just really want to see the Chiefs and Raiders battle with QBs for a decade plus. I don't sleep on the Chargers though, as they too have a lot of talent.

Elway hasn't drafted a pro bowler in years and his FAs other than the ones Manning brought in have been garbage

He probably won't, but it's not as far-fetched as some of the cavemen around here think. The NFL has changed a LOT in the past few years. Spread offenses, rules favoring offense, simplified schemes. The idea that a QB can come in and be "ruined forever" is comical. Like, what's the worst that can happen?

He can get thrown to the wolves behind a porous O-line with a complex offensive scheme (like Reids) that he has never run before ruining his confidence. It's happened plenty of times