Ok, so I probably was a condescending prick in this thread but **** if I didn't give everything I had pounding that imaginary table on the interwebs for Pat Mahomes.

LOL imagine if KC had this draft? I originally wanted Kamara over Hunt because of his speed and ability but loved Hunt as well. Was stoked about that pick and he's played college ball in my hometown.

ROFL holy shit Clay :facepalm:

Come on bud :)

Okay, so look...

People can give me shit for liking Geno Smith to the degree that I did. That's fine. But they should also know that I while I was thinking with my heart, I was moreso thinking from a perspective of, "Well, what ****ing better choice do we have at 1.1 in this draft class considering who's on our team and what we need?" Luke ****ing Joeckel? That's who all the NFL Draft guys wanted us to take. The fact that Dorsey took Fisher is inconsequential to the idea that you may as well aim high and fail spectacularly even if it doesn't work out.

However, assholes like King need to realize that for every QB you take pride in that you correctly pooh-poohed, you deserve MORE criticism than the people who dream if you get a guy wrong.

If you were to pick any drafted QB in a given draft class, what are the odds that guy will be a bust? 80%? 90%? 95%? It's easy to say, "Geno is a bust." It's easy to say that about any QB barring the ones everybody slobbers over like Andrew Luck.

So that means when you get one of those picks dead wrong, you should get ****ed way harder than somebody who ****ing DARED to pick a QB who would actually succeed.

Just my opinion, of course.

Another example.

From the dipshit who brought you the phrase, "I just don't think any of the QBs in this draft class are Andrew Luck" and says it every ****ing year.

There probably isn't an Andrew Luck in the 2019 class, either. OldSchool doesn't have opinions on college QB prospects. Why have one of those when you can just assume they'll all bust except for any Andrew Lucks that come around once in awhile? You'll be correct most of the time! Makes total pussy sense to me!

Yeah, I remember. I know this is old, but there's some revisionist history going on here. Most teams felt NEITHER guy was a #1 overall quality pick, but SF was awful and QB desperate after jettisoning Garcia and T.O.

It was pretty well known SF would pick one of the two (there was no consensus) and the other guy would fall at LEAST to the 15th pick. Multiple mocks predicted the slide of the 2nd QB. Rogers was a guy where people spent too much time scouting his school and the system he played in rather than his talent. "Oh, Tedford QB's always suck"

Most people felt SF was reaching for either guy, which is why they couldn't trade the pick. They tried to trade it too, because they knew they'd get the top QB if they did trade down. They could have traded down to 10 and got Smith. Most teams at the top of the draft didn't want EITHER GUY.

Some of the comments about Webb and Mahomes make me shake my head. Watched every snap of those guys at Tech. Webb has a big arm but he struggles with accuracy. I don’t mean completion percentage, I mean putting the ball on the money for YAC. Mahomes was an immediate upgrade in this area. Kind of important to set up your receiver for YAC in the Air Raid offense.

Geno Smith was NEVER going to be an NFL QB.

lol

He still is, isn't he?

This thread is a gold mine! The good news is no matter where anybody stood on Mahomes at the time, we are all smiling now.

this thread is GREAT!!!

Except you know, he is. And has been for 5 years (longer than the average career)

Yo.

The ascent of my man-crush on Mahomes... Probably more comedy gold in these...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=307108

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=307367

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=307102

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=306744

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=306566
1. Patrick Mahomes II - QB - Texas Tech (6'2" 225)
Solidly built QB with a rocket arm and the ability to make throws on the run and off balance. Gunslinger mentality that can get him into to trouble at times, but if he learns to play less backyard football in a system that sets him up for success and better protection, he should ascend. Despite awkward deliveries at times, still hits a requisite completion percentage and has a healthy TD to INT ratio. Those numbers should improve in a more refined NFL. From all accounts he has the mental fortitude to learn an NFL offense and be successful. Boom or bust type with a big arm similar to Brett Favre and Matthew Stafford if he works at his craft. Excellent pocket awareness that allows him to run to extend plays. Generally sets his feet and delivers strikes to all areas of the field from a clean pocket. Most mechanical issues come to surface under pressure, but seems to make plays few QBs will make. Throws with good trajectory and touch on deep balls and corner routes. Lays balls softly into the hands of backs and tight ends underneath. Will need to learn to make read progressions after coming from Air Raid. Needs to become a better decision maker and lay off putting the ball in to crowded windows in the NFL.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=306077

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=305915

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=305348

LMAO

I started in the same spot as Clay on Mahomes... January I was like nah, this kid is no way going first 3 rounds. Then just started watching everything on the kid and it went from there to having him mocked in the first to KC February forward. There were more than a few that kept the belief I had, and Clay isn't the only one. Can't really fault him for that thought process. Hell, there were plenty of media "experts" that didn't kept that thought process throughout.