Here's what KC should do: cut/trade Smith and keep Foles, AND draft a QB in the first or second round.

Ive always liked Kirk Cousins, so Id go after him, if he hit free agency. IMO, a big upgrade over Smith, If Andy would turn him loose, and let him throw deep!

Man, I would go with Rivers! If we had Rivers, we would have to be legitimate Super Bowl Favorites, provideing Andy gives up OC play calling duties!

Poll is missing an option for "A potato."

Keep Smith and draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd round.

No longer cost a ton to draft a guy.

No reason to cut your starter until you know what you have in the draftee.

If the draftee works out then you cut/trade your starter.

I replace him with Nick Foles, then if there is a QB I really see something in this year... the trade up gets pulled in the first 2 rounds and he sits behind Foles in 2017

If there isnt anyone I like in this draft, its

Foles

Bray

Some journeyman yokel who can at least complete a handoff... then go get my starchild in the supposedly QB heavy 2018 draft

How much cap do we save if we cut Smith?

I would try to trade for Rivers and draft a quarterback.

hmmmmm

Trubiski or Mahomes if we're making the move this year.

I'm not fooled by the athleticism of the Clemson product. That shit is going to bomb in this league. No need to move up.

So just do it to do it, regardless of whether it helps the team or not? Throw away a first round pick just so we can say we drafted a 1st round QB? Thankfully Dorsey makes picks based on something other than "everyone else has a first round QB so we should too".

It's worked well for the Packers, Falcons and Steelers.

Agreed.

For many here the grass is always greener. Even when it isn't.

Is there an Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan or Big Ben in this draft?

Those teams didn't "just pick a guy to pick a guy".

If you want to see how that works out see the Cleveland Browns.

I am all for drafting THE guy, not just A guy. Huge difference.

Even when our grass is dead, we still hold on to hope.

Who the hell knows?

Green Bay, Atlanta and Pittsburgh had NO foolproof idea when they picked those guys

I think this is why AR has PO trouble.

Usually his finesse team versus a punch you in your face team in the PO. Finesse usually doesn't work near as effective when the other team is playing hard nose football due to timing, hitting WR at the line etc.

Well Rodgers an Ryan were both potential #1 overall talent picks. Face it GB got lucky as **** he fell to them.

Ben was definitely a bold move.

I trust Dorsey and Reid on this subject so if they like a guy they will take him. I think getting out maneuvered for lynch last year probably affects their strategy this year.

Maybe

This. If there is a guy that Dorsey thinks is worth taking in the 1st round I'm sure he will pick him. If he doesn't I trust that he knows what he is doing. I know he won't just take one to take one. Dorsey>CP know it alls.

I would inquire about the cost to get Drew Brees.
Trade or release Smith.
Draft one of Trubisky, Watson or Kizer.
Win Superbowls.

I think the price for Rivers would be VERY reasonable.

While the Chiefs are at it, they should offer a 2023 7th for Antonio Brown and Le"evion Bell.

See no reason why it wouldn't be Foles. He's still available with a 2017 team option with a salary based on his 2016 performance, and considering he didnt perform hardly at all I can't imagine it would be much more than the baseline salary of $6.75M.

You don't even have to sell it as a throw away year because Foles has shown the potential to give you more than what they've gotten from Alex for 4 years, but there still needs to be a draft pick spent on a QB and I'm not talking about some 3rd day pick you cut before their rookie year.

They all absolutely had elite attributes coming out of college

Arm talent, glowing reviews about work ethic, proven ability in the clutch... yet all of those traits have also been displayed by countless busts through the years

All I'm saying is that if we never take the chance on a top kid, we'll never know what we might've missed out on, just like Pitt could've skipped past Ben because he was a small school product

Its well past time this franchise rolled the dice, and as you say the good news is that with Dorsey and Reid making the pick... we have a DAMN good shot at landing a winner, and not another Blackledge

Cut him, let Poe play QB next year, backup Poe some scrub, go 0-16, get Drew Lock with the first pick in the draft.

And all the watt's with our sixth rounder in the same draft

Wonder if they would throw in clowney and mercilus

I can throw a football 10 yards for a fraction of the cash Alice is getting

I understand exactly what you are saying but we have to be in a position to draft a potential top talent.

Its up to Dorsey to figure out where and who that is. Not just take a guy in round 1 because there is a guy and we have to draft a guy in round 1.

This will be an interesting draft for sure because I bet they take a QB in early rounds if there is someone they like. Perfect time to sit him for a year behind Smith.

Smith is gone after 2017 barring a SB run. I have zero doubt, so they have a short window to work with.

Maybe they like Bray but I doubt it since they signed Foles.

I'm going to assume this is an oversight and you meant to say Foles.

What? No Garapolo in the poll?

I'd honestly have more of an interest in watching the Chiefs next season if they had Honey Boo Boo as their starting QB than I will watching them with Alice.

Doubt that's going to happen, I am just being realistic.

The Jets rumor could be plausible. After SixPatrick, I'm sure they would like a qb who doesn't throw many interceptions.

Don't.


Don't do this to yourself.

LMAO

It's too late

Clay started this rumor and you are spreading it I assume.

Not advocating for a reach in any way whatsoever

I have O problems if they truly arent in love with a QB this year, as its not a particularly strong class... Foles, Bray, some yokel next year works for me

But in 2018, with a deep group? Yeah, its time to pull the trigger, trade up at least into the second at a minimum... between Dorsey and Reid we're almost sure to find a real player

George

I could see Foles starting next year.

You mean the Cleveland Browns who turn to ex-backup after ex-backup year after year after year and it never works?

I would still prefer him over Smith. I'm all for us going full in for a replacement, even if it's not next year. However Foles looked bad in his time so far. That's at best just above a lateral move imo.

Yeah, just NY media douchebags speculating on what they would like to happen. Nothing to see here, move along.

I think he is referring to the 1st round picks they have made that didn't work:

Tim Couch
Brady Quinn
Brandon Weeden
Johnny Manziel

You are deceiving yourselves. If Clay was the anti-Alex king of chiefsplanet, I have been the day one anti-Alex prince. But even I know that Alex is back in 2017. His guaranteed money comes well before the draft; the Chiefs aren't making any blockbuster trades for someone who may or may not be better than Alex, nor are they dumping Alex before they see what is available to them in the draft. They have been to the playoffs three times in four years. Don't tease yourselves, they may draft someone this year, but Alex will be the 2017 starter.

A conditional 4th...

Can I get a Alex Smith restructure as a choice in the poll?

Go back and watch that game where he missed Hill by 4 yards on a 5 yard slant at the goal line. It was one of the easiest potential touchdowns ever. I was on the Foles bandwagon until that split second. It's literally one of the most horrible passes I've ever seen a professional quarterback make.

Literally doesn't matter. Take a QB in every round of the draft. Start Bray. Sign X. It literally does not matter, as long as it's not Alex Smith, ergo you're at least trying SOMETHING else in the hopes of finding a franchise QB.

Sticking with Alex Smith is like having Marvin Lewis as your head coach. You'll never be the ugliest guy in the room, but there's no chance in hell you'll ever get close to the hot chicks.

Replace with Len Dawson? Thats what Reid said in his introductory press conference in 2013, to find the next Dawson. Someone should remind him about it and ask how his search is going.

I dunno, those guys aren't very good, maybe we should just offer a 2024 8th round pick instead...:hmmm:

He literally thinks it's Alex Smith.


That is why he is sticking with Alex Smith.

hm, mm... didn't we try that lately and end up with fisher? :(

however, i am totally in favor of poe playing any position he wants! PBJ PBJ PBJ

Right, maybe it explains the 1960s and 70s passing production we are getting out of Smith.

All of the middle-of-the-road and mostly rational posters who supported Alex Smith have jumped off the ship in the past couple of days. The only people left on this Turdtanic are you, Captain Tiger, and the ****ing string quartet.

Have ****ing fun drowning in the sea of your own Alex jizz, you ****ing dipshit

2018 sounds like it's far away somehow...

can we keep all our outstanding talent that long and still have some left for a fa or two?

if you could pick for the chiefs in 2018 who would you pick?

It's quite hard to get that kind of value in a trade. I definitely say pull the trigger.

Oh THAAAAAAT'S why the Browns are terrible! Four QBs since they re-started their franchise in 1999 have utterly demolished the entire team! I get it now! And here I thought it was all of those cheap free agent and trade QBs that the Browns kept trying to turn into gold like they thought they could find the next Kurt Warner. You know, guys like:

Doug Pederson
Kelly Holcomb
Luke McCown
Jeff Garcia
Trent Dilfer
Jake Delhomme
Seneca Wallace
Jason Campbell
Brian Hoyer
Josh McCown
Robert Griffin III

But nope. FOUR ****ing attempts at QBs. Two of them were exceptionally misguided ones in Weedon and Manziel, where they only people who thought they'd be great pros were the mentally challenged and small children. But nope... the Browns are terrible all because they draft first round QBs!

Yeah Quesadilla joe can thumb pop your asshole while Steve Sewell's in your mouth. Go Geno.

You mouth hugging twat

The Browns have been a part of some pretty huge trade downs on draft day as well, where they sold their high draft picks for pretty damn good hauls. They got a huge haul going from 2 to 8 last year when the Eagles got Carson Wentz. Or that time in 2012 when they acquired extra picks and traded down with the Vikings two spots to take Trent Richardson. Or in 2009 when they traded out of the 5 spot a bunch of times and got... Alex Mack and a bunch of crap, I think?

They sure do a looooot of trading down in the 1st round. And look at the state of their franchise. I guess since correlation DOES equal causation, and the Browns drafting all those QBs in the first round is why they keep sucking, I guess teams should also be advised against trading down and getting lots of picks.

I mean, the Browns do it a lot, and they're terrible. So don't do it!

People get hysterical after a playoff loss. Alex Smith didn't play well yesterday, but there were a lot of reasons we lost besides Alex Smith. Placing the blame entirely on the QB is not rational, it is emotional.

Look around you. You're all alone. You and Alex.

I guess it's kind of exciting for you. You can finally empty all that saliva into his mouth in a nice quiet private safe space.

Speaking of the Browns, sure they drafted plenty of QBs early, but coaching also matters. If we had drafted Rodgers instead of DJ, do you trust Herm to have developed him in his RRPP offense?ROFL

Who would I pick for QB in 2018? I have no idea yet

But I'll tell you same as I would tell anyone else... give Nick Foles a full offseason and camp as the starting QB under Reid, and he'd give us a very exciting 2017

Many disagree with that take and I dont give a rats ass, Foles under Reid at this point in both of their careers would be an exciting, and winning brand of football

I'm not having this same stupid argument with you about, "It's not ALL Alex's fault."

Alex needed perfection around him to get the job done, because he has so many shortcomings as a starting QB. He didn't get perfection. Why the **** should he? NO ****ING QB gets perfection, or rarely does.

It was a chickenshit gameplan from a chickenshit head coach trying to make the best out of his chickenshit QB. Clark's not going to get rid of the chickenshit head coach. So let's draft a guy, develop him on the bench, and take a ****ing shot with him as soon as he's ready.

You know, like ANY ****ING OTHER TEAM would have done years ago with Alex.

Weak argument.

Roster is balls-deep.

Ergo, no pick wasted.

Similarly, how has KC done with signing or trading for the "best" QB option while taking fliers on late round guys to develop:

Montana: 17-8 regular season starts, 2-2 playoffs, 0-1 AFCCG. 29-16 TDs/INTs 210 yards/game.
- Matt Blundin 1992 2nd Round: never started, 0-1 TDs/INT 7.5 yds/game.

Bono: 21-10 regular season, 0-1 playoffs. 37-27 TDs/INTs 175 yds/game
- Steve Matthews 1994 7th Round: never appeared for Kansas City
- Seve Stenstrom 1995 4th Round: never appeared for Kansas City

Grbac: 26-21 regular season, 0-1 playoffs. 66-46 TDs/INTs 217 yds/game
- Pat Barnes 1997 4th Round: never made a pass for Kansas City

Green: 48-40 regular season, 0-2 playoffs. 118-85 TDs/INTs 243 yds/game
- James Killian 2005 7th Round: never appeared for Kansas City
- Brodie Croyle 2006 3rd Round: 0-10 regular season, 0-0 playoffs. 8-9 TDs/INTs 92 yds/game

Huard: 10-11 regular season, 0-0 playoffs. 24-18 TDs/INTs 177 yds/game

Cassel: 19-28 regular season, 0-1 playoffs. 59-44 TDs/INTs 198 yds/game
- Ricky Stanzi 2011 5th Round: never appeared for Kansas City.

Smith: 41-21 regular season 1-2 playoffs. 76-28 TDs/INTs 222 yds/game
- Aaron Murray 2014 5th Round: cut and signed by Philadelphia before ever appearing for Kansas City
- Kevin Hogan 2016 5th Round: cut and signed by Cleveland before ever appearing for Kansas City.


The selection number KC typically picks a QB at? 140.

I think you guys should sign Geno Smith or Ryan Fitzpatrick to a long term deal.

FOLES!

Alex is better than both those guys.

More emotion. Can you change your tampon and calm down a little?

Ignorance is bliss for Splat.

Where is the "ANYBODY BUT ALICE SMIFF!!!" option?

Ok maybe you can pry EJ Manuel from the Bills then. Hoyer might also be a good choice.

I would keep Nick Foles. He is worth a look. He looked pretty good in the no huddle offense in Philadelphia with Chip Kelly before he got injured and is younger than Alex Smith.

Well **** showing and cheering next year's team then. Maybe if it's free! You can't care more than the team!

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Keep him for now. Draft a QB and let him learn as a backup in the meantime.

Alex isn't that bad. Ware, Kelce and Albert Wilson don't drop easy catches we win that game. Fisher doesn't hold we also probably win that game. Plenty of blame to go around.

Alex did all he could for us that game, he didn't play bad at all. We've been to the playoffs with him 3 out of 4 years he has been here. No need to make an immediate change at this point.