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I was there. Very damn cool.
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I took an advanced College Physics course. We had to plot a trajectory and landing on the moon. This was pre-internet so there was no cheating. Those landings are so damn hard to do because of weight/mass/height and trying to keep the center.
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Blew up. ****.
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Boeing pissed Elon is eating from its honey pot?
It is possible I suppose. Especially when you consider that up until this point, "cheaper" hasn't really been much of a target. I'd hate losing free money too. |
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I was just throwing out the possibility that maybe there is or will be some industrial espionage going on, and that the security now that we're in the realm of public industry might not be the same as what it was and is with NASA and the Air Force. And I was thinking more along the lines of possible sabotage by Russian interests, than say domestic competition between SpaceX and Orbital ATK, since the Russians stand to lose a good chunk of money to launches by domestic enterprises. Just a theory... |
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Preliminary conclusions are that a strut from a third-party supplier (unnamed) snapped well below certified load, causing a helium tank to roll around all over the place and eventually rupture the second stage LOX tank. Wouldn't want to be that supplier right now.
One kind of cool outcome - they determined that the Dragon capsule itself survived and could have been saved entirely if the software program had been written to deploy the parachutes upon rocket failure. They're building that in so that, in the future, it should be able to save itself if this were to happen again. They're not committing to any particular time frame, but launches could resume as early as September. http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/20/90...ause-explained |
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These are just drawings, but it's fun to see the game plan visually.
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I am just worried about the sand critters that obviously got fried in that landing. Oh PETA?
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Looks like SpaceX is aiming for December 15th to finally fly again. They will again be aiming to land the first stage, and this time it will be at their new facility on land (no barges).
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SpaceX RTF mission with Falcon 9 and ORBCOMM-2 has a long window of 2154-0054 local, Dec. 15. Static Fire next week. <a href="https://t.co/X4tnc8qnd8">https://t.co/X4tnc8qnd8</a></p>— Chris B - NSF (@NASASpaceflight) <a href="https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/672588272519012352">December 4, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Not that I think a ton of you are anxiously looking for the webcast tonight, but it was bumped back to the 19th in the evening. I'll bump this an hour or so before because I'm a nerd.
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I don't really want to bump the thread every time there's some insignificant news to report, so I added a box to the OP that I'll update from time to time with the latest news. If you ever want to know what's up, search for the thread.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New photo of <a href="https://twitter.com/SpaceX">@SpaceX</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcon9?src=hash">#Falcon9</a> in advance of tonight's ORBCOMM <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OG2?src=hash">#OG2</a> launch. She's a beauty. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SpaceX?src=hash">#SpaceX</a> <a href="https://t.co/cUhCgGieiP">pic.twitter.com/cUhCgGieiP</a></p>— ORBCOMM (@ORBCOMM_Inc) <a href="https://twitter.com/ORBCOMM_Inc/status/678649734505058304">December 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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New Reddit /r/spacex launch thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comm...ficial_launch/ Current weather loop: https://i.imgur.com/qIDcuT2.webm https://i.imgur.com/k98RbOf.webm Summary: sporadic showers with the possibility to be an issue are still around, and probably will remain that way through the attempt. That being said, these clouds remain pretty small / short and it seems like metar continues to report that the cloud deck isn't full overcast, so we definitely have a shot here. A instantaneous window I'd feel better about, but let's see what happens. |
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Webcast is live. We're a "go" at T-minus 15 minutes.
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Go/No go to auto countdown poll complete. All are go. Engines cooling. Propellant loading. T- 6min
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They've really bumped up the production values for this launch. Hope we get a nice live shot of the landing.
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MECO. Stage 1 is on its way back.
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