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Rasputin 05-08-2014 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 10613336)
**** this excuse "well we lost Tamba and Houston and our defense crumbled." Well, duh, I expect that to happen when you lose your 2 best pass rushers.

The Chiefs lack too many starters to draft for next year or for depth when you need starters at WR or FS or even RG.

This sorry excuse for a franchise always has something to throw to the fans. Dee Ford is ****ing overrated. The guy can only rush the passer, somewhat effectively and he can't stop the run at all.

This is a guy I would have taken in the 3rd round. Hopefully the guy becomes all world, because we just passed on Earl Thomas Part 2 and a whole shitload of very good WRs.

So he is complete opposite of Tyson Jackson?

Jakemall 05-08-2014 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10613341)
This.

We need a ****ing WR in a bad way though.
Fortunately it's deep in wr.

Dayze 05-08-2014 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10613358)
With his size, he's probably a better OLB in a 3-4 than a 4-3 DE.
agree. but they lost TJax.
if there was a big ass stud on the end, it would be crazy sick.
maybe they have a plan for him, but right now I'm worried.

ping2000 05-08-2014 09:19 PM
Signable.

hometeam 05-08-2014 09:20 PM
<iframe width="640" height="390" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/ej1kOxFQ6v0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Mr_Tomahawk 05-08-2014 09:20 PM
He slaughtered Johnny Football

jonzie04 05-08-2014 09:21 PM
Not sure why everyone is so upset he has more potential than Dennard and lee. Dees explosive as hell. I expect him to contribute this year. Happy we Got a speed rusher to throw in the mix. There are a shit ton of wrs in the late rounds and you NEVER know how wrs are going to pan out. Lots of good cb's left as well. Cbs are a dime a dozen anyway.

cosmo20002 05-08-2014 09:21 PM
https://sp3.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608...49535&pid=15.1

Hammock Parties 05-08-2014 09:21 PM
Oh but **** this franchise for not drafting Teddy Bridgewater anyway.

**** them.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-08-2014 09:21 PM
Wanted a pass rusher and got it...I am happy

FloridaMan88 05-08-2014 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10613377)
Jimmy Ward or Marquise Lee would have been a better pick.
Not to worry, plenty of WR depth in this draft… which means the Chiefs will likely draft the next Craphonso Thorpe.

TambaBerry 05-08-2014 09:22 PM
Bad pick to reach at 23 here, looking forward to seeing him on the field for 20 snaps a game. maybe pick up 6 sacks and get injured constantly

KCDC 05-08-2014 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10613313)
I'd rather have a really good pass rusher than a corner with very stiff hips (Dennard)

Watch his combine workouts and listen to Deion just clown him.

Ford at 23 is a good pick.

It just sucks that we didnt get Manziel.
Bridgewater would still have been a good pick with Manziel gone as he would fit the offense better with an accurate arm and good football vision.

Rasputin 05-08-2014 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 10613372)
injury prone
Figures

tredadda 05-08-2014 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10613266)
Our receivers weren't the reason we gave up a 4 td lead...
Nope, that could be put on our FS.

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2014 09:22 PM
JFC, guys.

I'm pretty iffy about the pick. But the dumbassery about people freaking out because we didn't draft for need vs. BPA is just plain stupid.

I don't give a shit what holes we have on our roster. I care if we took the best player on the board. Sure as shit hope Ford was it.

-King- 05-08-2014 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10613384)
agree. but they lost TJax.
if there was a big ass stud on the end, it would be crazy sick.
maybe they have a plan for him, but right now I'm worried.
They signed a replacement for TJax.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-08-2014 09:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10613411)
Wanted a pass rusher and got it...I am happy
This.

Molitoth 05-08-2014 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 10613404)
Not sure why everyone is so upset he has more potential than Dennard and lee. Dees explosive as hell. I expect him to contribute this year. Happy we Got a speed rusher to throw in the mix. There are a shit ton of wrs in the late rounds and you NEVER know how wrs are going to pan out. Lots of good cb's left as well. Cbs are a dime a dozen anyway.
Probably because this means Tamba or Houston are going to be gone soon.
So in reality, this team once again has not gotten any BETTER at positions of need.

staylor26 05-08-2014 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10613384)
agree. but they lost TJax.
if there was a big ass stud on the end, it would be crazy sick.
maybe they have a plan for him, but right now I'm worried.
We signed Vance Walker for that who is a VERY good under the radar pickup

htismaqe 05-08-2014 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10613358)
With his size, he's probably a better OLB in a 3-4 than a 4-3 DE.
probably?

:thumb:

hometeam 05-08-2014 09:23 PM
This pick wasn't need or BPA. This was wtf. Thats why people are wtfing.

Kiimo 05-08-2014 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 10613404)
Not sure why everyone is so upset he has more potential than Dennard and lee. Dees explosive as hell. I expect him to contribute this year. Happy we Got a speed rusher to throw in the mix. There are a shit ton of wrs in the late rounds and you NEVER know how wrs are going to pan out. Lots of good cb's left as well. Cbs are a dime a dozen anyway.
More potential than Lee?? Lee's potential is all-pro. Anybody wanna go out on a limb and predict this dude is all pro? Not a chance.

jd1020 05-08-2014 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 10613346)
Pretty sure this regime doesn't think nearly as highly of this team and it's chance as the fan base does.

Look at their moves and tell them they don't think it's a gut project and not a push for the superbowl one.
Trading contracts for rookies and hoping they can compete at the same level as the vets so they can extend Alex to a ****ing ridiculous contract.

Mother****erJones 05-08-2014 09:23 PM
**** this guy

jonzie04 05-08-2014 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10613377)
Jimmy Ward or Marquise Lee would have been a better pick.
wards the only non qb I would have taken over dee. not sure about lee though. draft is way too deep at wr. and dees the best pass rusher aside from mack and clowney.

FloridaMan88 05-08-2014 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10613419)
JFC, guys.

I'm pretty iffy about the pick. But the dumbassery about people freaking out because we didn't draft for need vs. BPA is just plain stupid.

I don't give a shit what holes we have on our roster. I care if we took the best player on the board. Sure as shit hope Ford was it.
Again another consequence of completely sitting out free agency… which is what the Chiefs did this year.

If the Chiefs had filled some of their needs in free agency… like WR, they would have more flexibility in the draft.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-08-2014 09:24 PM
To the dumbasses...he is an OLB...not an DE.

Dunerdr 05-08-2014 09:24 PM
Hali reported 20 lbs over weight he's bulking to play with his hand in the dirt. You heard it here first. Pass rushers and press corners ftw!

OldSchool 05-08-2014 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10613411)
Wanted a pass rusher and got it...I am happy
:clap::thumb:

Jakemall 05-08-2014 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 10613425)
Probably because this means Tamba or Houston are going to be gone soon.
So in reality, this team once again has not gotten any BETTER at positions of need.
How many games did the Chiefs lose because Houston and Hali weren't healthy?

Mother****erJones 05-08-2014 09:24 PM
This what we do. Draft Alberts replacement. Now draft Hali's. And let them go for nothing

htismaqe 05-08-2014 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10613377)
Jimmy Ward or Marquise Lee would have been a better pick.
Marquise lee would have been a bigger reach than Ford.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-08-2014 09:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10613423)
They signed a replacement for TJax.
...that also can rush the passer. Trend?

Mother****erJones 05-08-2014 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10613449)
How many games did the Chiefs lose because Houston and Hali weren't healthy?
So draft Moeakis cousin gotcha

htismaqe 05-08-2014 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 10613445)
To the dumbasses...he is an OLB...not an DE.
Nobody is listening.

hometeam 05-08-2014 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10613436)
Trading contracts for rookies and hoping they can compete at the same level as the vets so they can extend Alex to a ****ing ridiculous contract.
sad but true

TEX 05-08-2014 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10613444)
Again another consequence of completely sitting out free agency… which is what the Chiefs did this year.

If the Chiefs had filled some of their needs in free agency… like WR, they would have more flexibility in the draft.
Exactly the case.

TambaBerry 05-08-2014 09:27 PM
This team is a joke new front office same results

hometeam 05-08-2014 09:27 PM
Can this thread surpass Geno? nah.

Hammock Parties 05-08-2014 09:27 PM
Great Dee Ford breakdown here with lots of GIFs.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/5/2...port-breakdown

http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/4381231/ford5.gif

ChiTown 05-08-2014 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10613461)
Nobody is listening.
We get it, he's an OLB.

suds79 05-08-2014 09:28 PM
I know people were getting pumped about the possibility of a QB but get real folks. You can never have enough pass rushers. Particularly with Hali on the decline.

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2014 09:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10613444)
Again another consequence of completely sitting out free agency… which is what the Chiefs did this year.

If the Chiefs had filled some of their needs in free agency… like WR, they would have more flexibility in the draft.
I don't give a shit. Criticizing a first round pick because it doesn't fill an immediate need is just plain stupid if you take a guy who plays a critical position.

I have no problem taking a 3-4 OLB. I'm ecstatic it wasn't a Guard. But yeah, I'm not that excited about the actual pick itself.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-08-2014 09:29 PM
Obviously some of you don't watch SEC football.

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2014 09:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10613452)
This what we do. Draft Alberts replacement. Now draft Hali's. And let them go for nothing
I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that. Especially Hali. Good guy, but I don't want to pay a guy a long term extension because he's nice to talk to.

listopencil 05-08-2014 09:30 PM
IAOFM:

<table class="draft-2013" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>23</td> <td>Kansas City</td> <td>Dee Ford</td> <td>DE</td> <td>Auburn</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="5">Very interesting pick. Kind of along the Seattle idea of never having too many pass rushers. Personally, I think they needed weapons at WR, but Ford is a good player.</td></tr></tbody></table>

TEX 05-08-2014 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10613419)
JFC, guys.

I'm pretty iffy about the pick. But the dumbassery about people freaking out because we didn't draft for need vs. BPA is just plain stupid.

I don't give a shit what holes we have on our roster. I care if we took the best player on the board. Sure as shit hope Ford was it.
ROFL Is this what you meant when you were preaching all off season about drafting much better and hitting on all of our draft picks.

TribalElder 05-08-2014 09:31 PM
LMAO and I got negged for suggesting we might take a guard from emporia state

ROFL

The butthurt is strong

The Franchise 05-08-2014 09:31 PM
I'm fine with it.

DTLB58 05-08-2014 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10613167)
@JasonLaCanfora: That's the first guy taken tonight I didn't have in the first round of my mock. And probably not the last I'd presume



On Dee Ford ROFL
He had James, Ja'Wuan OT 6'6" 311 Tennessee in his 1st rd?

Pablo 05-08-2014 09:32 PM
It is sad I'm just happy it wasn't OL?

Fine with this. I'm glad it was an impact position. Hali is gone after this year.

Nzoner 05-08-2014 09:32 PM
The kid says he's better than Clowney,hope he backs it up

video included in link

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...deveon-clowney

TribalElder 05-08-2014 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10613482)
Hope he rapes faces

Maybe it will be like when Poe was picked

TEX 05-08-2014 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10613514)
I'm fine with it.
Seems ok.

petegz28 05-08-2014 09:32 PM
We didn't lose the playoff game because of:

Alex Smith
Eric Fisher
Avery
Jenkins
or
Davis

All guys several on here threw a fit about drafting and\or signing

We lost because of an ineffective defense and Bowe not getting his foot down in bounds on the most important play of the season

So I think the criticism by some on this pick is really not based on nothing more than draft day drama

DTLB58 05-08-2014 09:33 PM
Just listened to Reid and he said they plan to play Ford @ OLB.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-08-2014 09:33 PM
Get beast pass rusher....planet bitches.

kcchiefsus 05-08-2014 09:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 10613535)
Just listened to Reid and he said they plan to play Ford @ OLB.
Water is wet.

No shit.

chiefzilla1501 05-08-2014 09:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10613506)
ROFL Is this what you meant when you were preaching all off season about drafting much better and hitting on all of our draft picks.
I don't have a problem with drafting a critical position in the first round. We'll see what he brings. What I think is stupid is saying the Chiefs have to limit their first round pick to fill in immediate needs.

ShowtimeSBMVP 05-08-2014 09:35 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Some teams red flagged Dee Ford (back). Good for him that he still went in the first.</p>&mdash; Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) <a href="https://twitter.com/caplannfl/statuses/464599327374311425">May 9, 2014</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pasta Little Brioni 05-08-2014 09:35 PM
We had what 10 sacks the 2nd half of the year. They scored 35 ppg. Would have been good with Cooks, but this is what they needed.

jd1020 05-08-2014 09:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 10613535)
Just listened to Reid and he said they plan to play Ford @ OLB.
You mean then don't want to like up a 250 DE in a 3-4 on the line? I'm literally shocked!

ping2000 05-08-2014 09:36 PM
[QUOTE=DTLB58;10613535]Just listened to Reid and he said they plan to eat a lot of ribs tonight before they go to bed. [\QUOTE]


FYP

jonzie04 05-08-2014 09:36 PM
dee was nasty in the senior bowl. I remember lots of people wanting him then. Where is the love

TambaBerry 05-08-2014 09:36 PM
This is why the Chiefs suck and teams like the 49ers don't.

Ceej 05-08-2014 09:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 10613535)
Just listened to Reid and he said they plan to play Ford @ OLB.
No weigh!!11111

Beef Supreme 05-08-2014 09:37 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Hali, Houston and Ford on the field at the same time a lot. It's never a sexy pick with the Chiefs.

petegz28 05-08-2014 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10613555)
You mean then don't want to like up a 250 DE in a 3-4 on the line? I'm literally shocked!
Some on here seem to think they want him to play DE...a lot of them hate the pick because he is undersized to play De in 3-4...lol

Mr_Tomahawk 05-08-2014 09:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 10613558)
dee was nasty in the senior bowl. I remember lots of people wanting him then. Where is the love
Damn, I missed it.

BossChief 05-08-2014 09:37 PM
I'm not pissed at all about the pick, in fat he was one of the guys in my sig tat I wanted to draft.

I'm just pissed tat we couldn't get Manziel.

LanceHunter 05-08-2014 09:38 PM
Although an okay pick, I was hoping they would get WR Mike Evans, he has the size at 6'-5" and 225 lbs. and almost 1400yds in 2013.

OldSchool 05-08-2014 09:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonzie04 (Post 10613558)
dee was nasty in the senior bowl. I remember lots of people wanting him then. Where is the love
:thumb:

The idiots came out of the woodwork. "QBQBQBQBQBQBQBQBQBQBQB!"

petegz28 05-08-2014 09:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10613559)
This is why the Chiefs suck and teams like the 49ers don't.
Yeah because the 49ers aren't carried by their defense and running back or anything like that....:eek:

TambaBerry 05-08-2014 09:38 PM
Why couldn't we get Ray farmer as our gm he killed this draft.

BossChief 05-08-2014 09:39 PM
His first step is as good as Houston's.

The Franchise 05-08-2014 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10613587)
His first step is as good as Houston's.
Dude needs to put in some work in the weight room though.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-08-2014 09:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10613587)
His first step is as good as Houston's.
Absolutely the first thing that stands out....incredible and rare

Pasta Little Brioni 05-08-2014 09:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10613596)
Dude needs to put in some work in the weight room though.
.....and this

htismaqe 05-08-2014 09:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 10613564)
Some on here seem to think they want him to play DE...a lot of them hate the pick because he is undersized to play De in 3-4...lol
That's because some on here still don't know the difference between the 3-4 and the 4-3.


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