let's trade our #1 pick to Jason Whitlock for Jeff George

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Same.

Go watch a bunch of Geno tape, I think you can be converted.

Yes, ironically enough, he has. He's made plays on defense that have either ended games, given us the chance to win, or nailed the door shut on a turnover to seal the game. You did watch DJ play in 2010 right?

I think you mean Plain and simple, as there is no simple plan for winning a Super Bowl when your team has no QB, no depth at CB, and no depth on the offensive line.

I'm not saying we should take Te'o because he's the consensus best, I'm just pointing out that he's above and beyond the best at his position in this draft, and we don't have that same comparison at the QB position, so you can't say there is a guaranteed "lock" there for us, as this is the shittiest QB draft in a decade, yet the defensive side of the draft is STACKED to the brim.

I'm still 100% behind drafting a QB if there is one that is good enough for us that fits our system.
I'm not "trying" to say anything here. I've said it. There is no consensus best QB, but there is a consensus best ILB, and if no QB manages to separate himself from the pack, or improve his actual "prominence" as analysts see it, I'm not OPPOSED to drafting a guy like Te'o, and then going and getting Wilson or Bray in the 2nd round. No mistake about it, in the first 40 selections of this draft (adjusting for a possible trade here), we will have a QB there is no doubt about it. It is more about who and when we draft them.

Even if they all project to be 2-3rd round talents after the combine and some big name guy gets let go like Romo? I'm not for a Retread, but lets hypothesize for a bit. Say Geno slips to the second round but has the best overall mechanics, just needs a little time to get up to speed. Are you opposed to signing Romo, drafting Geno in the 2nd, and picking up Te'O or an LT with our first pick of the draft depending on what happens with Albert?
What is getting lost here is the importance of what we do with some of our players in the off season. As it stands right now, we don't draft a QB with our first pick if Albert is let go. That much is guaranteed.

We go LT with our first pick, and QB with our 2nd and I'll bet the world on that one.

I'd rather take a punter #1 overall than an ILB.

Wasting a #1 on a OT, DL, ILB...****ing STUPID.

Take a QB, take a WR, take a RB, take a stud ****ing rush backer...NOTHING else is worth it...and if Matty Quinsell is your god damn QB you take the best GD QB in the draft and pat yourself on the back.

We don't even know if we're going to be a 4-3 or 3-4 team next year yet.

does Teo run a 4.2 40? Can he rep 225 60 times? Does he have a 60" vertical and what will his Wonderlic be? 48?

If he's all those things...then I think I'd probably

draft Geno

The only way I'm fine with not using #1 on a QB is if there is a trade partner that keeps us in the top 10 and gives us another 2nd. Then we still get one of the top
3 QBs in all likely hood, could trade our 3rd for a Flynn or Cousins type guy and use the two seconds on CB, WR, or LB combo.

Of course, that would require a trade partner and I
Don't see
It happening for the talent that's up
In the top
This year

Some people got so worried about filling other holes. Look at SB winners. Most actually had some pretty big holes in places EXCEPT one. That includes the secondary, LB position, ect ect. Only one of those positions has not been a weak one.

I like Werner better than Teo

How often do "locks like Luck" come around? Once every decade or so. Your and idiot.

Let me break this down for you:
2012 Superbowl:
NE - QB - Tom Brady; ILB - Brandon Spikes/Jerod Mayo
NYG - QB - Eli Manning; ILB - Chase Blackburn

2011 Superbowl
PIT - QB - Ben Roethlisberger; ILB - James Farrior/Lawrence Timmons
GB - QB - Aaron Rodgers; ILB - Desmond Bishop/AJ Hawk

2010 Superbowl
NO - QB - Drew Brees; ILB - Jonathan Vilma
IND - QB - Peyton Manning; ILB - Gary Brackett

2009 Superbowl
PIT - QB - Ben Roethlisberger; ILB - Larry Foote, James Farrior
ARI - QB - Kurt Warner; ILB - Gerald Hayes

2008
NE - QB - Tom Brady; ILB - Tedy Bruschi/Junior Seau
NYG - QB - Eli Manning; ILB - Antonio Pierce




I wonder which correlates more to success?

The fact that you "aren't opposed" to drafting T'eo #1 is why you are a dumbass.

Great post. Stats to support what I was saying. You can basically do that with every position. The QB is the constant.

For us? I agree. QB is the largest, most glaring need for us. That doesn't automatically make our first pick a QB. If you have a guy that you KNOW will fit your system, a guy you KNOW is YOUR GUY, and you can get him in the 2nd, why not fill another hole with another guy? I'd be all over it if that happens to be the case.

Despite your theory behind payscales being true, you are under the impression that because you don't have to pay them, somehow automatically makes them the #1 pick.

With that analogy, the top 10 QB's of this draft should be taken unanimously as the top 10 picks.

That is not how the draft works. You draft for what you need, what you could use, and you certainly draft guys out there that have a few question marks, but are known to be solid football players (BPA in later rounds).

Just because we need a QB doesn't dictate us using it as our #1 pick, just yet. Like I said, if Albert is gone, LT is a lock for our #1 pick.

Having read this response, I can tell that your emotion is in this. You want a QB or no draft at all. You don't care if our roster is full of undrafted free agents out of northern canada, as long as we spend our first pick on a QB.

The point I brought up with Stanzi and the then current FO/Staff, was that we got a guy our HC liked and wanted to start the year before, a guy who came from Pioli's #1 scouted college, and after 2 years, he hasn't started a game. He's the best QB on the roster if you compare College to College, but we won't even give him a snap. In the last game of the season, in a season where all hope is lost because we lack a QB, you don't think, hey, maybe we should give our #3 guy a chance to play and take a shot at him actually being like the next Tom Brady, someone he was compared to in the draft. You can't fool yourself thinking Crennel and Pioli were the only ones to have input on that decision.

As for the rest, I never said I was wanting to wait for the next "luck". I've already stated I want to get a QB in this draft, and early. I've been a big fan of drafting a QB in the last 5 drafts here because there are guys I legitimately want this team to draft because I think they'll fit well, and we don't always end up with them, but hey, I'm not the GM or Coach, I have no input here.

What I did say, and I stick by it, is that I'll gladly spend that #1 draft pick on ANYONE, be it Te'o, Smith, or even an LT if we lose Albert, as long as we aren't making a huge "WTF?" mistake. As in, if Geno blows the combine up and ends up being the real deal in terms of metrics and elevates himself from the field of players, I'm all for it. I'll be pissed if he doesn't get picked. But if all of the QB class decides to shit the bed in the combine and pro days, and a guy like Te'o blows up, I'm going to be pissed that we would pick Geno, and not Te'O, because the selection will feel forced, dirty, as if our only reasoning to draft him, was because we haven't taken a chance on a QB in however long.

That, right there, is the mentality I hate. The Mentality you are working from. Jacksonville did the same thing, do you think they liked their Gabbert selection? Gabbert was a much worse QB in college than Stanzi, and we've yet to play the kid. But, as the kids would put it, Jacksonville was "thirsty" for a QB, and they took a shot. Now look at their team, #2 draft pick this year.

Done deal.

I have, and I'm impressed, but having watched Pat White play a similar game in college, ending up a late round pick, and then going to play baseball, I'm a little skeptic on West Virginia/Virginia Tech QB's transitioning to the pros. I want to see Senior Bowl tape, Combine data, Pro Day workouts, before I jump on that bandwagon.

Yea, let's compare Geno Smith to a 6'0" 190 run-first QB in pat white who didn't even run the same system. ****ing idiots.

You can't say wasting a #1 on an ILB is stupid, after saying you'd rather take a punter, you just cannot do that.

Taking a QB just because it is your weakest position on your team, with your first pick, does not guarantee that you drafted right. I'm all for drafting right. Again, if we lose Albert, its going to be LT, then QB, then CB in this draft. If we don't, then it'll likely be QB, then CB, then ILB. However, again, if Te'o separates himself so much that he is just the golden ****ing child of the sport, and no QB separates themselves, I'm taking Te'o with my first, and whoever fits our style in the 2nd. No questions asked. That right there, is smart drafting.

Seriously? Have you seen the roster? Is this a joke? You're joking right?

If he does all that and Geno and Barkley, and Bray and whoever else post 20's on the lic and look like Croyle in drills, I'm taking Te'O all day.

I'm completely okay with trading and staying in or near the top 10 and acquiring an additional 2nd. In fact, that is probably the safest thing we can do, and I love safe, especially when there isn't a QB that separates himself. If Geno does, however, I'm taking Geno in a new york minute.

A point about Cousins though, we haven't seen Stanzi play yet, but in College Stanzi ****ing clowned on Cousins all day every day, I wouldn't trade for Cousins at all because of the cost you'd incur from that ransom lol.

Really? Is that why Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer have superbowl rings in the last 15 years? lol

I think you meant "You're" an idiot. I'm actually quite intelligent, thanks sweetheart. I realize that you are really mad and cannot understand the concept of rationalizing logic here, at least to the extent of my standpoint and trying to analyze every possible outcome here to make the RIGHT pick, not the Safe pick, but it is getting annoying listening to you call me an idiot when you cannot even grammatically form a sentence without major errors.


That being said, you and I seem to be at an impasse, even before we get down to who or what we should draft.

You seem to be under this idea that Luck is already better than everyone else in the league.

Let me paint you a better picture, one easily digested.

Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees. Those are the three best QBs to ever play the position. They are all under contract coming off of good or great seasons, and will play next year.

You're going to tell me that in the last 30 years there hasn't been a lock like Luck, who at the current state, is barely a top 20 QB in his rookie year, when a guy like Peyton Manning just came off of a Neck injury and is a top 5 QB at his age?

You are going to say he wasn't a lock? Peyton Manning is the most cerebral QB to ever play this game, and only Tom Brady jumps ahead of him as the "best" in the argument.

I'm the idiot, and you're saying there hasn't been a "luck lock" since Elway.......with Peyton Manning...........Peyton Manning in the picture. Peyton Manning we could have signed last year had we not had Pioli.

And you call me the idiot when you forgot about Peyton Manning.

Let that sink in.

JFC

Yea, whatever noob. I can't fix stupid - and learn the lexicon.

I was giving means to my skepticism, sorry for not swallowing Geno's balls as I try to evaluate a guy without bias. Jesus Christ you people are mad if anyone even SUGGESTS not taking Geno with the first pick of the draft.

I bet you want us to select him with your 2nd pick as well, just so people know how badly we need a QB.

****ing ignorant bandwagoneers.

ROFL

Care to explain the difference between you are and you're? ****ing moron.

The way he said it, implied that I was in possession of an idiot. The way he meant to say it, was that I AM an idiot. There's a difference and "your" is possessive, which was improperly used.

"****ing Moron"

So you quoted me and were talking to someone else... intelligence.

Don't huff the nitrous oxide, it can be bad for you long term. Or at least let it wear off before you post.

With so many arguments from so many angles, do you blame me for making a mistake?

Oh noes, I'm human. Sorry to let you down.

I agree with that. Its easy to find a very good ILB in the 3rd or 4th round because nobody drafts them.

Crazier things have happened. As it sits right now, trading out of the #1 spot is getting quite a bit of speculation from the talking heads and I don't really blame them. Unless a QB separates himself in this draft class, we can get the same "product" in the late first or even early 2nd round, as we would with the #1 pick, which is why I'm playing devils advocate and voicing the fact that I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Te'O if he happens to be the golden goose of this draft class. Hell, it makes no sense to waste the #1 selection on a QB that will produce the same play as a guy selected in the 30's.

All it does is allow the whiners their chance to revel in the fact that we finally made a QB selection in the first round after all of the years, and in 2-3 years we can come back here and start with the "What were we thinking? QB X was there in the 3rd round, why did we draft Geno/Matt/Tyler?".

And oh boy, with this draft class, I cannot wait for that day to come.:rolleyes:

So far, that exact sentence can be used for the QB's in this draft class.

Its like the ultimate insult to injury here, we finally get the #1 pick in the draft, only to have the draft yield zero future HoF QB prospects.

Go Chiefs, lets use our first 3 picks on QBs because it is the only position on this team we need, and until we draft a solid QB, we'll never win a super bowl.:rolleyes:

Someday, if you last here, you may understand why your and idiot.

Well, part of your post was right. Too bad it was the sarcastic part.

I get the inside joke of the sentence here, but I'll last as long as this site is entertaining and somewhat informative to read. I'm not going to be ran off because I'm heavily opinionated and egotistical, that is 74% of this site lol.

Oh no, I swallowed the koolaid now, so we're drafting nothing but SB QB's in this draft, like 5 of them.

Wow. Just wow dude. Again I ask if you watch the NFL. The NFL is not the same now that it was in 2002. There is a reason the Dilfer's and Johnson's of the world don't win the SB anymore. The only non-elite QB that has even BEEN in the SB the past 8 plus years if Grossman.

Learn CP lexicon you dumbass. "Your and Idiot" is a ****ing joke.

lol, not sure why you people are all bent out of shape with this mock draft. It means you all can still get Geno with the first pick of the second round.

lol.

You get the inside joke yet make a comment about how its you're, not your? Makes sense.

lol, shame we don't have the first pick in the second round.

lol.

lol

Are you ****ing kidding me?


No HOF QB prospect so don't draft a QB? This is maddening.

So Teo is a future HOF'er at ILB?


If this were a draft for a COLLEGE football team, yeah, I'd gladly take Teo. But this is the NFL and a ILB isn't winning shit.

I take you wouldn't want this scenario if it presented itself? That would be stupid. Like I said, I doubt it would tho

Everyone needs to chill. The combine is going to shake things up big-time.

I hear we are gonna forfit the pick, cause there isn't a sure fire Hof'er there.

All your other posts are too ****ing long to quote from my phone so this isn't about this post.


I know DJ has won a couple games for us. I actually agree

BUT a couple games in over five years is ****ING NOTHING. NOTHING.

Teo would probably win a couple in his career too.


any qb will do that in a year. Cassel did.

**** a ilb at one
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I think that when the scouts get a hol of Manti Teos tape and combine numbers, he will fall down the charts. He just does not look like a great athlete to me

DJ won a couple games for us, yes. An ILB can win a game per year on his own. A franchise QB can win 6 or 7 per year on his own.


But I know I'm way off here.

I bet his measurables are disappointing, too.

He will end up being a 7-15 pick, which is exactly where he should be.

I thought that would be common knowledge.

even a bust at qb should win you a game a year...
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Yep.



I'm just amazed that, as absolutely shitty ****ing ass turd the chiefs QB spot has been the last .....well while, they are this god damn picky.


Not even so much picky, just scared to death.

They all deserved to get ****ed in the ass by a five hundred pound bearded transvestite lounge singer with an eighteen inch twelve pound cock
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Be scared of that you bitches
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We've drafted dlineman over and over and they've mostly, flopped.


Yet a mocker says Star to the Chiefs, and people lop that shit up.

I have no problems with this. i dont think any of the QBs in this years draft is worthy of the #1 pick no matter how badly we need one. most if not all of the top QBs this year will be available in the second round. i say use the #1 pick to draft a non QB bad ass and get a QB in the later rounds. they will still be there...guaranteed.

no

We have the first overall pick. I want to start this shit off with the new HC and GM having the absolute best QB prospect available.

Mike Maluga, Vernon Gholston, Jon Baldwin and Dontari Poe love you and your thought process.

Tested my neg power on him. Two red bars. Not sure if thats good after 16 months. Seems like a fake account.

I'm not really sure why we are even debating this.


With new GM's and HC's come new QB's. Add in the first overall pick and it's pretty much a no brainer at this point.

And now you are supporting the "QB or bust" crowd. If Albert leaves "it's going to be a LT?" Why? Because we don't have one?

Gee, that sounds a lot like the QB situation...and yet, you are criticizing people who want a QB because they feel that neither Quinn nor Cassel nor Stanzi is capable of playing it at an acceptable NFL level.

Why would it be a LT when there are totally solid LT's to be found in this draft in the second round?

See how it works?

Don't be a disengenuos hypocrite.

Neither are we, ****stick. When did we say, "I hope we don't draft a defensive player at all this year"?

We can get those guys in Rounds 2-7. There are TONS of good ILBs, CBs, and safeties throughout. Lots of guys who could start for us.

The problem is it's so goddamn rare to find QBs from those rounds who can not only start but be elite players. So that's why we should take the best one in the 1st round.

Shane Skov just raped my Wisconsin Badgers. He's a guy who will probably be available to us with our top pick in the 3rd round. HOLY SHIT WE JUST FIXED OUR ILB AND IT DIDN'T COST US THE #1 OVERALL PICK

Isn't the NFL draft wonderful? You can like... draft MORE THAN ONE PLAYER. *gasp* How incredible!

Yeah he did. That guy is a stud. And if he declares, he might be there at the top of the third. (Like I have in my mock in the Draft Planet.)

Much more versatile than Te'o as he can play inside and outside. Three down player that you aren't going to lose anything with in terms of run or pass defense.

Really like Skov a lot.

Extorter...

I'll make a bet with you.

Next 5 years...5 #1 picks...5 QBs

Want to play?

I know what the joke is/was, I honest to god didn't take it the same. As for the Dilfers of the world, yes the NFL has changed, but not nearly that much. There's a reason that guys like Dilfer and Johnson got super bowl rings, and it certainly wasn't their consistency at the QB position. They were nothing but game managers on a team running on all cylinders. You can make the case that throughout the history of the NFL, there's never really been a team that "dominated" and won championships that didn't have an above average QB at the helm. Every once in a while you'll get a guy to the big show and maybe even play the best game of his life and win won, but you don't get to be a perennial playoff team without a top 10 QB, it just doesn't happen.

These are not facts that I've ignored, and you'd be an ignorant tool to even remotely think that is why I am implying here. I'm simply stating that there isn't a good enough QB in this upcoming draft, pre-combine, pre-pro day to justify the #1 pick in the draft. Not that I've seen at least. And on top of that, there is so much "servicable starter" talent in this group of QB's, that we'll have ZERO issues picking a guy up in the 2nd round if that is our path, should we take it.

So then the question becomes, How much better is Geno Smith than Wilson or Bray at the NFL level? Because if we're talking marginal difference, why the **** would you waste the #1 pick in the draft on a talent you CAN AND WILL GET in the second round? I'd rather "waste" that #1 pick on a surefire starter at whatever position I need the most, versus the value I'll get in the 2nd for QB. Allllllllllll ****ing day.

As stated above, honest to god didn't take it as a joke lol

Are you kidding me? Can you read? It doesn't say don't take a QB, it just says I'm not opposed to taking a guy like Te'o in the first and getting a QB in the 2nd. SHOCK, I still take a QB.

EXACTLY what I'm getting at here.

Funny thing is, I wasn't arguing that ILB's could win games, someone was just dumb enough to say they haven't, and I argued against that. I'm not making an argument that says ILB wins games anything comparable to a QB, simply pointing out that DJ has won quite a few games for us over the years.

Take nothing more from it than that. Read less into what I write, and take what I write as a literal sense, I'm not concealing motives or hiding an inner purpose. All I'm saying here is that if there isn't a clear cut talent for that #1 pick, we draft whoever is the star of the show at a position we need IF AND ONLY IF THEY BLOW IT AWAY in scouting, and then go get a guy in the 2nd where we'll have 5-6 options at serviceable starters in this draft.

That's possible, from what I've watched, he's a pretty damned good tackler and damned near top of the crop in pass defense. He seems like he'd be absolutely solid in our 3-4 and could play from a number of different packages. Of course, all of that depends on what our new coach brings in and what he decides we will run. We have the personnel for the 3-4 all day long, but if for some reason we bring in a guy who wants to run the 4-3, drafting Te'O is a complete waste for us. Feel free to quote that and use it against me later.

See the previous comment about this, I didn't bring that point up, just argued it so the person who brought it up, realized they were wrong.

**** this all over the place, we do not need to draft anymore god damned linemen, especially if they end up being SEC linemen. You'd think we'd have learned our lesson by now.

THIS IS WHAT I AM SAYING, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!

Not even remotely, clearly you're having issues figuring that thought process out lol.

If it were a no brainer at this point, why is it that half the mocks out there don't have us taking a QB? It also isn't always the case that you get a new QB, it just happens to be heavily prominent in the rebuilding process when you pickup a team in the dumps. I will never argue against the fact that we need a QB here in KC, I just don't think we have to look at this as #1 pick or bust. We can just as easily get a starter in the 2nd round. This isn't nearly as pressure filled and stressful as you guys want to make it out to be. We've got such a GREAT position in this draft to add so much talent to this team in positions we are lacking, we just need to be smart with how we draft that talent. As of right now, taking a QB first, might not be the right way to go, but we will get a QB regardless.

I NEVER said we shouldn't get a QB dude, not ****ing once, and never did I say our QB situation was good or that we didn't need to pickup a QB. All I'm saying is we don't necessarily have to spend our first pick on a QB since there is no clear cut "guy" in the QB prospects, and as it sits right now, we can just about get the same talent from a QB in the second round, as we 'd get in the first. You need an exercise in comprehension because you are failing dangerously at this one. Also, we have no clue how Stanzi will play at the NFL level, our brain trust has decided we shouldn't evaluate him in an NFL game because we know better. If you are taken in the 5th round or later, you can't be a good QB, right? lols

As for the LT, if there is a clear cut LT that separates himself from the rest, **** yeah you draft that guy, especially with the #1 pick. More important than a good QB, is his Left Tackle, do you want to waste the investment of your #1 QB without a tackle to protect him? Its all about the available talent. CAN you get a comparable talent in the 2nd round with an LT as the first round? As of right now, **** no, not even CLOSE. QB? Yes.

I'm going to guess that the Disingenuous Hypocrite typo was a joke in the lexicon too? Haven't been through it to figure that out.


Whoa bitch, don't get mad. The fatal flaw in your gameplan there, you know, with drafting players and stuff, is the fact that there isn't a certified Elite QB in this draft. So under the same mindset, you can get that same play from rounds 2 and 3, and not have to waste a first round pick on 2nd round talent.

Are we that desperate? I mean, I know we have Cassel and Quinn on the roster for now, but do we really have to waste a #1 pick on a QB if the talent is equal to that of a guy we can get in the 2nd round?

Justify that to me and I'll jump on the Geno or bust bandwagon, as of right now I see no justification, at least not until after the combine. If someone blows me out of the water, **** yeah I'm all over spending that #1 pick on them.

If you're including this coming draft in those next 5 years, that's a little risky. What are we betting?

I'm too much of a gambler to not hear you out on this :D

Te'o might turn out to be another Tony Mandarich. Too risky.

This Exoter guy seems pretty cool huh

Lets go draft a punter, because apparently I'm on board for drafting a punter with the #1 pick, call me Taco of Tacocorp and load me up with Kickers.

**** yeah!

I've never seen so many people quoted in one post.

Which mod is sitting back posting and laughing at everyone?

If its a mod they are wasting a lot of effort on this.

Hate me all you want guys but I'm really scared we're going to reach for a QB who wouldn't be a first round pick in any of the past 5 years. I really want a franchise QB I'm just getting scared of how large a risk it will be with our pick.

I will offer a sig-bet. I bet there are at least four QBs taken in the first round. Who wants to take me on?

So who is your QB next year for KC?

My house is in need of improvements. The house is too cold because the HVAC system is broken and it is poorly insulated. I have two options and both will cost the same:

1. I can get top of the line insulation and new energy efficient windows and a make do HVAC system. The insulation and window contractor has impeccable references in all the best neighborhoods. I'll have really really good insulation. But I'll have to settle for a used 5-year-old heat pump from a manufacturer that went out of business. The contractor is a guy that does it part time out of his garage. He supposedly knows his stuff, but can't give me any references.

2. I can get a new mid-range brand-name heat pump from a licensed contractor. Good references. But he's only been in business 2 years and the labor warranty would be invalid if he went out of business. I'll have enough left over to get better insulation in the attic too.

OPTION 1!!!!! /Exoter175

Glad I could set the record for you :D
Not a mod, not a fake account, multi account, or anything like that.

Pretty much, just because we need a QB, doesn't mean we have to take him in the first round. If the top 8 QB's are all basically the same talent, why not wait until the second and get an immediate starter in the first as well? Bang for your buck baby.

**** yeah, lets do it. I need a fancy sig.
Worst analogy EVER.

As of this moment, whoever the talent is for the first QB taken in the draft, can have similar talent taken in the second round of the draft. That's why I'm not opposed to taking a guy like Te'o who won't be available in the second round, nor will his talent.

Believe me though, I want Geno to blow the **** up at the combine so we can justify spending that #1 pick on a QB, and shit all over the ****ing drafted QB curse we have in KC. Then I'll dance all over Pioli's grave as Clark sails this ship to the promised land.

I saw it and my head didn't explode.

for one month after the first day of the draft then?

See the problem is a lot of people here already think Geno and Wilson are better than the guys that will be around in the 2nd round. I'm not settling for the 4th or 5th QB in the draft that is not as good(even if its not enormous), because of Teo or a LT.

For the trillionth time, the new CBA means there's virtually no risk. If Geno somehow does suck, get rid of him and draft a new one.

Kenny Vaccaro going 5th overall....

W. T. FUUUUUU

Sounds good to me :clap:

Right? Basically how I feel right now having watched Geno's final two games thinking.....this guy is supposed to be a cut above the rest? Only with our luck would we get this draft class with the #1 pick.

The problem with that is the rest of the world doesn't agree. There are Mocks that have 1 QB in the first, 4, 2, 3, none. 4 different QB's listed as the first QB pick. Hell, 6 months ago, Geno was THE guy. He was hands down the unanimous pick for the #1 QB taken, now that isn't the case and I've seen Mocks with him in the second round.

What that says to me is that there is no consensus. This time last year and all year before that, there was no doubt that Luck/RG3 were #1/#2 QB's taken. Not so much this year.

This draft reminds me more of the Browns, when they went and grabbed who was it? Joe Thomas, Left Tackle, then traded up to draft Brady Quinn 1 spot ahead of Kansas City before we drafted him, which I believe was still a Carl Peterson team and he went on record to say he would have drafted him at that spot too.

I'm just saying as of right now, I think Te'O is hands down the best at his position, and I think we can easily get one of the best players in this draft, as well as a young talented QB who is "on par" with everyone else in this draft class, at the number 2 spot.

Admittedly, I do have a lot of video to watch on Smith and Bray, so that could change. But what I have seen so far, I'm not sure there is enough separation to say without a doubt, that Geno is the #1 guy hands down. Although, that being said, from the 4 games I've watched this year with Geno, I'm not opposed to him being a Chief at all, I do like him as a QB, but I don't love him yet. And that could change with time and with more metrics.

Actually, it means you no longer have to worry about drafting a position in the top 5 that you wouldn't normally draft that high because you'd have to pay him out the ass.

Not that you can magically waste a ****ing draft pick because you aren't going to have to pay them.

Jesus Christ people.