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BossChief 10-16-2012 01:52 PM

The Eagles are currently running a 56/44 split favoring the pass.

Anybody trying to use a Mick Vick disclaimer needs to realize that Reid would be an idiot NOT TO DO THAT...Vick is a 4.3 guy.

Atlanta didn't use that kind of split to their playcalling.

vailpass 10-16-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9020178)
Perry Fewell deserves a look.

Indeed...

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KC_Connection 10-16-2012 01:57 PM

Reid has managed to underachieve with some of the most talented teams in the NFL over the last decade. I'll pass.

mcaj22 10-16-2012 01:57 PM

wasnt that Fewell guy dogshit in Buffalo

havent we learned anything from Romeo?

Quesadilla Joe 10-16-2012 01:58 PM

I don't get the love for McCoy here. I mean I wouldn't want to lose him because he has been here a while, but he's no Mike Shanahan.

He is good at making adjustments at half but man do his offenses start the game off slow. It's like he spends the entire first half just feeling the defense out and then comes out after halftime with a solid plan.

TEX 10-16-2012 02:06 PM

I just laugh at those who would have no interest in Reid, just like I do for Obama voters. ROFL

BoneKrusher 10-16-2012 05:35 PM

it's like this, he's better than the tub o' lard we have currently.

petegz28 10-16-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9020140)
He refuses to run the ball.

But, but, but.....this is a passing league now! :hmmm:

petegz28 10-16-2012 06:01 PM

Maybe not my first choice but definitely needs to be considered. Not sure who my #1 choice is as I am not aware of who will be available.

Sure-Oz 10-16-2012 06:11 PM

What about a college coach?

Oregons coach?

In58men 10-16-2012 06:12 PM

Nope

kushed god 10-16-2012 06:20 PM

Why don't we get my father-in-law Bill? - Scott

petegz28 10-16-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 9021615)
What about a college coach?

Oregons coach?

Not liking that idea.

Brock 10-16-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9020842)
I just laugh at those who would have no interest in Reid, just like I do for Obama voters. ROFL

That must get tiring.

kushed god 10-16-2012 06:29 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DlkT3bUsDc&feature=plcp

he's laughing at the beginning, he does not take this job seriously. fat mother****er

FloridaMan88 10-16-2012 10:23 PM

Andy Reid has a track record of drafting and successfully developing QB's.

That should be the #1 criteria for hiring a new head coach... do you have a track record for drafting and developing a franchise QB.

doomy3 10-16-2012 10:25 PM

Definitely wouldn't mind Reid. He certainly seems to understand the concept of getting a top QB, and he does a good job of developing them. It would be fun to see what he could do with Geno Smith if we can get him.

Rausch 10-16-2012 10:25 PM

He wouldn't be my first choice but he'd be light years better than the last 3...

BossChief 10-16-2012 11:02 PM

I'm thinking Reid may well be my top choice after taking a little time thinking about the alternatives.

Seriously, it NEEDS to be a guy that almost overvalues the QB position and has a history of developing them.

Who else would be a better fit for that?

NJChiefsFan 10-16-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9020077)
Think about what this guy has done.

The inaccurate McNabb, went to a SB. Resurrected Michael Vicks career before he turned back into a pumpkin (injury prone & turns the ball over). Had us thinking we missed on Nick Foles for a bit there.

He does not run it enough. He has a long enough track record to see he doesn't usually have a good balance. Not just balance, but knowing when to protect one aspect with the other. Also, if he gets credit for controlling Vick, shouldn't he receive some of the blame for his struggles? The team isn't exactly playing to potential and hasn't for the past two seasons.

I don't hate the guy, but he wouldn't be my choice.

BossChief 10-16-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9023006)
He wouldn't be my first choice but he'd be light years better than the last 3...

Who'd be your top choice and why would he be better than Reid?

What bugs you about Reid?

ClevelandBronco 10-16-2012 11:06 PM

I can't imagine why a coach with any other options would take a job with the Chiefs right now. The paycheck would have to be astronomical.

BossChief 10-16-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9023109)
He does not run it enough. Also, if he gets credit for controlling Vick, shouldn't he receive some of the blame for his struggles? The team isn't exactly playing to potential and hasn't for the past two seasons.

They are currently at a 56/44 split favoring the pass.

That's about as even as it gets in today's NFL.

Rausch 10-16-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9023110)
Who'd be your top choice and why would he be better than Reid?

What bugs you about Reid?

He needs the balance of a strong GM who can say no when necessary but at the same time collaborate with him to build his team.

We don't have one and I'm not sold Clark is ready to get one...

DaneMcCloud 10-16-2012 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9023110)
What bugs you about Reid?

Passing 56% of the time versus 44% in the run game.

Poor defenses.

Poor coaching hires.

Awful personnel decisions.

Czar-like attitude (personnel, coaching , etc.).

No thanks.

NJChiefsFan 10-16-2012 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9023113)
They are currently at a 56/44 split favoring the pass.

That's about as even as it gets in today's NFL.

How much of that is Vick? I know you pointed out that he should run Vick, but the guy hasn't been coaching for 2 years. He has shown he doesn't always have the correct balance. It's not just about how much, but when. I don't hate him, but I have on numerous times shaken my head at some of his decisions. Some of that may be due to the amount of time he has been in the league. The Eagles haven't exactly lived up to potential the past 2 years and thats not all because of Vick.

BossChief 10-16-2012 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 9023112)
I can't imagine why a coach with any other options would take a job with the Chiefs right now. The paycheck would have to be astronomical.

Pioli will be gone and this team will be like fresh clay to work with.

ClevelandBronco 10-16-2012 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9023120)
Pioli will be gone and this team will be like fresh clay to work with.

And?

What? Blow? Chicks?

NJChiefsFan 10-16-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 9023112)
I can't imagine why a coach with any other options would take a job with the Chiefs right now. The paycheck would have to be astronomical.

Crappy teams always manage to get coaches. There are 32 spots, that's it. Not to mention if they get a top pick that can be more attractive knowing you will have a chance at a QBOTF.

Rausch 10-16-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 9023122)
And?

What? Blow? Chicks?

Those usually only come with winning teams.

I'm willing to make that concession...

Reerun_KC 10-16-2012 11:11 PM

Nah, would rather get someone younger and more passionate.

Dude has more baggage than a hooker...

AussieChiefsFan 10-16-2012 11:16 PM

On my shortlist.

BossChief 10-16-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9023115)
Passing 56% of the time versus 44% in the run game.

Poor defenses.

Poor coaching hires.

Awful personnel decisions.

Czar-like attitude (personnel, coaching , etc.).

No thanks.

That's one of the best ratios in the league.

I do think he would need to hire a strong DC that could handle the defense (one that runs a 3-4) and the team would need a GM that he could work with...if those get filled, we could be in for a quick turnaround.

DaneMcCloud 10-16-2012 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9023144)
That's one of the best ratios in the league.

I do think he would need to hire a strong DC that could handle the defense (one that runs a 3-4) and the team would need a GM that he could work with...if those get filled, we could be in for a quick turnaround.

Reid won't work with a GM. He'll also bring his Philly cronies along so the Chiefs would go from the Patriot Way to being the Eagles west.

Again, no thanks.

BossChief 10-16-2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9023155)
Reid won't work with a GM. He'll also bring his Philly cronies along so the Chiefs would go from the Patriot Way to being the Eagles west.

Again, no thanks.

Who is on your list?

DaneMcCloud 10-16-2012 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9023160)
Who is on your list?

I don't have a list. I just know who I don't want.

:D

Plus, what I want is irrelevant. I'd rather discuss reality, not speculation.

Titty Meat 10-16-2012 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9023169)
I don't have a list. I just know who I don't want.

:D

Plus, what I want is irrelevant. I'd rather discuss reality, not speculation.

Chud.

chiefzilla1501 10-16-2012 11:41 PM

No retreads please

BossChief 10-16-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9023169)
I don't have a list. I just know who I don't want.

:D

Plus, what I want is irrelevant. I'd rather discuss reality, not speculation.

Do you agree that getting a qb and developing him is this teams top requirement going forward?

Rausch 10-16-2012 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9023187)
Do you agree that getting a qb and developing him is this teams top requirement going forward?

Has it not been the last 40 years?...

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2012 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9023187)
Do you agree that getting a qb and developing him is this teams top requirement going forward?

No.

If you're taking a guy number one or two overall, he had better be 95% developed. At that point, it's the offensive coaching staff's responsibility to put the QB in a favorable position.

College QB's recently have proven that they don't need development, they need NFL experience.

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9023177)
Chud.

Cam Newton and Carolina have taken a huge step backward this season.

I don't see him as a head coaching candidate.

Rausch 10-17-2012 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9023212)
Cam Newton and Carolina have taken a huge step backward this season.

I don't see him as a head coaching candidate.

Stupidity is incurable.

I don't care how good a lion trainer you are you're still just a dumb-**** that thinks he can make lions do what he wants...

Fritz88 10-17-2012 01:29 AM

As OC.
Posted via Mobile Device

Rausch 10-17-2012 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9023294)
As OC.
Posted via Mobile Device

This...

AussieChiefsFan 10-17-2012 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 9023294)
As OC.
Posted via Mobile Device

:hmmm:

ClevelandBronco 10-17-2012 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9023204)
Has it not been the last 40 years?...

And that's why they didn't do it. I mean, that guy would be like 62 years old now (even older if he was a Mormon, I suppose), and how many guys in their sixties have been successful quarterbacks in the NFL? The Chiefs actually dodged a bullet in that one. Smart personnel move.

BossChief 10-17-2012 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9023208)
No.

If you're taking a guy number one or two overall, he had better be 95% developed. At that point, it's the offensive coaching staff's responsibility to put the QB in a favorable position.

College QB's recently have proven that they don't need development, they need NFL experience.

Well, Im sorry that you dont see that its possible the coaches they all got matched up with played a big role into how they were able to transition so quickly.

RG3 has Shannahan
Luck has Arians.
Tannehill has his college coach

Rausch 10-17-2012 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 9023307)
And that's why they didn't do it. I mean, that guy would be like 62 years old now (even older if he was a Mormon, I suppose), and how many guys in their sixties have been successful quarterbacks in the NFL? The Chiefs actually dodged a bullet in that one. Smart personnel move.

Not funny.

Plus random disrespectful comments about your family and things carnivores should do to your more protected parts...

spanky 52 10-17-2012 04:48 AM

No thanks. If we were to have a new regime, I'd hope they'd get a younger guy, somebody not in the good old boy network.

jspchief 10-17-2012 06:35 AM

I have no idea why people are trying to defend Reid's commitment to the run. He has a decade plus of undervaluing running the ball, regardless of what this year's current ratio is.

FRCDFED 10-17-2012 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 9020388)
When Norv Turner is fired, who would like him as OC?

This...count me in!

Chief Gump 10-17-2012 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9020089)

I can't quit laughing... ROFL


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