This.


Anybody have a link to this that isn't a local media hearsay tweet?

Split the difference. Pioli is resigned, Crennel "retires" at the end of the season. Cassel is cut.

"Crennel "retires" at the end of the season. Cassel is cut."

Thats what the offseason will look like if Pioli is extended. If he's not, we are lame duck for the rest of the season. Have no GM until January or even February. Makes it impossible to do in season extensions.

You want your GM working on replacing Romeo.

I know you guys hate Pioli, but trust me, the minute we hire a coach and draft a QB in the first round you guys will start talking playoffs again.

I can see this.

This post makes Eric Winston sick.

Why would anyone feel good about Pioli hiring yet another coach?

Dude, are you really trolling with this Pioli is OK bullshit?

CC Get a clue, Josh Mcdaniels would make the whole fanbase feel good.

-IF- Pioli were to get another shot at a coach and brought in someone that half of the board approved of (we will never agree on a single coach) and drafts....say Geno Smith. I could see this board talking about playoffs.

*Disclaimer* I WANT PIOLI GONE.

But IF Pioli got another shot to bring in a HC...I am curious who it would be. Haley and RAC are complete opposites....maybe he brings in the first female coach? LMAO

What shitbag coach is Pioli going to hire this time?

Brian Daboll?

"Brian did a great job with the offense and we led the league in rushing."

I have zero confidence that pioli is capable of hiring a good coach. He didn't do his homework on the first one, then made a completely lazy hire on the second. I don't want to waste another 4 years on this shit.

Even Matt Cassel, who I've always felt was a career backup, set records under Brian's guidance.

You don't even have to go that far; it's not about trust in Pioli. There isn't a qualified HC candidate who would work for him.

Then there is that: the completely sullied reputation he's given this franchise. No, this calls for nuking from orbit.

The fact that people have pooled money for a banner rather than a predator drone is baffling.

Fesco replied to me on FB and said he has not heard yes or no ether way....

I'm all on board for going out there and tailgating throughout the game. Hell, that's been the best part of going out there the last number of years.

If enough people would do that, I bet Pioli would have his CIA goons and rent-a-cops kicking everyone out that weren't going to the game. Arresting people for "loitering", or some such bullshit. That would be hilarity in and of itself.

If Polly is extended, that would be as far as I would go to giving money to the team until he and his minions would be gone.

This off-season, for both KC franchises, might push me to the east side of the state. Extra Innings + Sunday Ticket might = profit.

He said qualified.

I think McDaniels is a great OC. He's not a HC.

Pioli's rep around the league is dogshit. No coach wants to come here and be micromanaged and told who to play.

He'd probably ****ing promote Daboll.

I think keeping Pioli is the Chiefs best option. Do I have concerns? You bet I do, but installing a new GM means major change to the organization. That is why teams don't change GM's all the time. I'd rather have Pioli, whose grace period is over, than a new GM who will need time to get his people and philosophy in place.

The Chiefs suck on the field because of a lack of leadership by the head coach and QB. I know some of you think it comes from the GM and owner, I disagree. Ownership and the front office set long term strategy and philosophy.

I think Pioli knows that he has to hire a legitimate head coach. He needs to understand that while the Chiefs are shaped by his philosophy, its still the head coaches team.

I think that means Pioli needs to select a proven HC. A known entity. The new coach at Pioli need to have mutual respect for each other, otherwise its never going to work.

The QB thing is a given.

Has Soren Petro ever broke a story?

says who?

Wasn't Haley dog shit too until the Steelers hired him?

I forgot, Haley is now a cult hero because some reporter wrote that he didn't get along with Pioli.

Who the hell empowered these guys? I'm baffled here. The best thing about hiring a new GM is that there would be major change to the organization.

Josh Mcdaniels sounds about right, then they will keep Cassel, right after that we all meet in the Chiefs pavillion to drink cyanide.

Patriots Tree ftw!

GM sits behind a desk and is in a suite during the game. The head coach must command respect and provide leadership

Pioli is the worst option he's created a divide between the fans and the team.

It's very likely a new GM drafts a QB thus making this team a playoff competitor. If that happens Clark will have won the fans back over. There's nothing Pioli can do short of a playoff victory to win over the fans and given his track record the playoffs are unlikely.

EXACTLY.

Anyone have a link to this bullshit?

if clark cares he'll fire pioli so new blood can get in here and draft us a fcukin qb already

no need for the Chiefs to start from scratch IMO. We have lots of pieces, just need a QB and Coach. Not small things, but I don't think the organizations philosophy is flawed.

New GM may mean new offensive and defensive schemes that require different types of players. Remember Gun wanting huge ass WR's and then DV wanting smaller quicker guys? If you want to actually build a team in the modern era your team needs a consistent identity and philosophy.

2011: "It was all Haley's fault."

2012: "It was all Cassel's fault."

Clark must have blown his profs at SMU to get that degree if he's dumb enough to accept those excuses.

There's no reason for any competent GM to look at this roster and think he needs to start from scratch.

For ****'s sake, Carl and Marty turned a ****ing loser into a winner IN ONE OFFSEASON.

What the hell kind of name is Soren anyway?

I'm sorry but this isn't true. We're more than just a QB away from being a super bowl contender. We need a QB, Coach, D-line, and depth.

You're going to keep a guy who hasn't been able to bring in a QB, Coach, D-line, or depth? That doesn't make any sense.

I like Pioli in many many many ways... but I don't like the current culture at 1 Arrowhead and I just don't see us winning under him unless HE is ready to do a 180 and give up on a lot of his old ideas and habits.

Pioli was a success under Belichick because he was UNDER Belichick.

If Pioli stays, Clark needs to demand that a coach with that level of control is hired to replace Crennel. Unfortunately that means a retread instead of an up-and-comer. That isn't the direction I'd prefer, so in the end, I'd rather Pioli go.

You're not going to like hearing this but NFL teams cannot let the emotions of their fans dictate the direction of the franchise. In fact, I would argue that's the worse thing a team could do. I'm all about benching/cutting/booing Cassel and Romeo, but wanting to run Pioli out of town isn't very well thought out. Game plan how it would work. It would look a lot like our offseason after the 2008 season. It was a mess.

Pioli's had the opportunity to hire two HC's and he's failed twice. He had the opportunity to change quarterbacks and instead extended the contract of a complete failure.

Now you want to give him a 3rd chance?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, I must be hoover.

It was a mess because we ****ed it up.

Because Clark ****ed it up. Because Scott came in and continued the ****ery.

Wake up, god dammit.

No point in Pioli but more losses, more bullshit, and rage building to incomprehensibly embarrassing levels.

Its a process

Right, because the Falcons had a terrible 2008 offseason when they hired Dimitroff. They drafted their future franchise QB in the 1st round along with an OT. They also grabbed a starting LB and a 3rd WR in the same draft. They hired their HC who has compiled a 47-21 record. They signed Michael Turner.

They ended up going 11-5 in that first season. They haven't had a losing season during his tenure.

What a disaster!

This organization NEEDS major change. No credible good HC wants to coach here because of Pioli. Peyton Manning wouldn't talk to KC because of Pioli! That's down right sad and embarrassing. Were are not the fricking Browns!

If 4 years is long enough to decide whether or not you're going to keep someone in the position of running the country, then 4 years is long enough to figure out if a guy is any good at running a football team.

Pioli has proven that he can't run the Chiefs successfully.

Follow up to my last post...

if you keep Pioli... you pretty much have 4 choices (off the top of my head) for head coach

Billick
Cowher
Dungy
Gruden

I can't think of anyone else who has the clout to keep Pioli in check.

The Falcons struck gold with Matt Ryan dude. Shit, anyone could be the GM of that team.

This is a perfect year for the Chiefs to finally get their QB.

I think that's the list.

Again, says who?

They didn't strike gold. They drafted a QB that they evaluated to be worth a top pick. Pioli chose to trade for a pile of shit who wasn't even good enough to start in college. You want to reward his failure with an extension. JFC true fans are stupid.

The Chiefs can get their QB with a new GM.

God, if the Chiefs hired any of those retreads..

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at least 2 of those guys would want full control meaning they would never ever work with Pioli as the GM.

@kentbabb

@JoshVernier Just wait till Pioli actually feels pressure. Everyone will be thrown under the bus to save his skin. That happened last year.

You forgot Marty.

Our GM learned everything he knows from Browns culture.

He's already done that with the fans, Crennel and Cassel will likely be next.

We have never been in position to draft a top QB where we were at in the draft.

So you mean if we fire Pioli we will finish in last place and fail to make the playoffs much less win a playoff game? Maybe by firing him we will become the laughingstock of the NFL. Perhaps the fans will fly a banner if he is fired.

Hell ask Browns fans what they even think of Bill Belichick....

They think he's an overrated piece of garbage that happen to trip over a gold nugget in Tom Brady...which is essentially what happened in New England.

Too old. I can't see them going with a 70 year old... which is why Parcells was left off as well.

To be clear... I DO NOT WANT a retread coach... but I don't see any other way things could work if Pioli stays.

We've had the assets to trade up, like the Redskins did. Stop making excuses.

No coach seems to be able to work with Pioli for long, except sad sack Romeo.

I can't believe you're actually advocating letting this dipshit continue to rail this team. :doh!:

The Redskins weren't either last year. So they decided to give up what it took to trade up for one.

The sad thing is, from what I've seen of fan reaction, that if Pioli stayed and made Bill Cowher or Marty Schottenheimer the HC or even gave them a role, a large majority of Chiefs fans would flock back and forget about it all.

Even on the Save Our Chiefs status update today, probably 8 out of 10 responses indicated that they want Marty as the GM! If they made him HC, people would come back. It's disheartening, really.

Ryan Tannehill could have been had for a 3rd.

Instead Pioli drafted a 3-4 defensive end.

Except he built Cleveland into a winner that was predicted to go to the SB the year Modell broke the news that the taem was moving to Baltimore which effectively ruined that season. He won a playoff game in Cleveland more recently than we did in KC.

Pioli is Grima Wormtongue, and Clark is Theoden if this goes down.

"Chiefs fans...they are not welcome."

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...87/ttt0517.jpg

This is bullcrap. Nonsense and excuses that this team thrives on.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAH

no he didnt

Cleveland was ****ing terrible when all these Pats tree idiots were sitting on their treadmills in the room watching film. Everyone from Pioli to Belicheck to Saban to Ferentz they built a shit ****ing team that was getting dominated

did you not watch the Browns 95 A Football Life that was on television recently?

Exactly. Why couldn't we trade up in the past? There is always a way to move up in the draft.

I can understand Mr. Hoover's point of view. Firing Pioli would cause additional chaos and, at this point in the game, the Chiefs could sure use some stability.

However, if I were Clark's counselor, I would argue that we're already in the throes of chaos ... in addition to fielding arguably the worst team in the NFL on Sundays (and certainly not reflective of the talent on the roster), struggling to get value from our recent drafts, and finding ourselves in the midst of a fan revolt. It may seem like a tough decision, but it really isn't. It just means that Clark will have to go to work again to hire a new GM.

Sometimes it's best to walk away from a stinking pile of garbage rather than hope for a breeze.

To date, Pioli has shown nothing ... nothing ... that can reasonably demonstrate he is capable of hiring a proper head coach, glean maximum value from the draft, or keep the fans in the seats. The franchise is floundering in every conceivable, important category and there is only one person to blame ... the person who is ultimately responsible ... and the person who must be let go.

FAX

So they didn't beat NE 20-13 on Jan 1, 1995? Were they not predicted to go to the SB in 1995? Also Cleveland was a joke prior to his arrival. Yes I did watch the Browns 95 special, apparently we did not see the same thing.

That Browns team was a bunch of shit the whole time they were there.

They had one good season against an incredibly weak schedule.

Sound familiar?

Like who? Tannehill? LMFAO

If you want to stick your fingers in your ears fine, but his reputation is dogshit as I said.

People in the NFL recognized that Haley was in a no-win situation. Haley though did something that Pioli will never in a million years do when he leaves the Chiefs. Go work for a coach he had no prior ties with.

Pioli is on the first bus back to Foxboro the minute he's fired here.