Because if you're smart you can tell when you're drunk.

Having that said different people react differently to alcohol. There's a difference than being drunk and being able to defeat a breathalyzer test.

But there are those that do get drunk off of a few drinks. .10 seems about where it should be IMO. That's where it used to be and there aren't any statistics (from what I can find) that lowering the limit has "saved lives".

It's reeruns like you why 10,000 people die each year from drunken driving.

LOL

Has nothing to do with smarts.

Best part about where I live is u can ride bikes anywhere in town and as long as ur on a bike the police do not care.

Did you move to Durango or is that just wishful thinking?

Nucky is probably in his early 20s. Cut him some slack.

WTF kind of reeruned ass logic is this?

I never have.

I was always the DD.

If I wanted to drink, I stayed home and did it or somewhere I could crash.

I presume that he was being facetious.

Heh, no but it sure didn't hurt the decision.

Because most, if not all, of us in our younger days have done the same damn thing over and over and over again. He just had a breathalyzer on hand and knew what he was at. Bout the only difference.

And there it is.

It's CoMoChief

I think this is likely a misconception that you tards use to justify your stupidity.

That 20 somethings are stupid, so it's ok for them to drive drunk :shrug:

Nucky, you will not get a reasonable debate here. We are a bunch of self-righteous a-holes here. None of us here have ever had one to many and had to drive home. As a matter of fact everyone here is the next coming of Jesus Christ, and are completely without fault.

Yes I'm here

misread

oh, you just smacked him in the face with irony... :banghead:

sometimes when I'm drunk, I think I'm ok to do, yah know, whatever.

Damn. Nice. Great place.

You forgot to add in the part about us having 12 inch peckers.

And 1,000x more people die due to non-drunk driving accidents.

What's you're point? I know when to call a cab, I've done it countless numbers of times.

All I'm saying that having a few drinks and being over the "legal limit" doesn't mean you're drunk.

No doubt. Took a long time to make happen but the stars finally aligned. Get a hold of me if ever in town I'm learning more and more where and how to swing the fly rod daily.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/LHemwxHp1B4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Obligatory so what do you do?

Pfft 12"? Flaccid maybe!

Well yeah, goes without saying. :D

This is incorrect. Which proves my point.

It isn't to justify anything. His post had nothing to do with asking if you found it acceptable for him to be driving while intoxicated, it was about the legal limit. But yall tasted blood in the water and tore him to shreds.

You don't think its implicit when he basically says, "it should be okay to do this thing that I did." You are a tard. Don't use your anecdotal perception of the world to justify your poor judgement as somehow acceptable when it clearly places other people in danger.

No.

What is the upside to this suggestion to the person/persons that are meeting you head on, on a 2 lane highway after you and all the millions that already drive drunk are now at the new proposed higher legal limit?

I'm in favor of a 0.0 limit. No drinking at all if you're going to drive. None.

actually you're wrong.

thanks for playing.

Wanna bet reerun?

say yes to Mary Jane.

This is how I have always viewed drinking. If I am going to be driving at all- I don't drink. I enjoy playing DD getting people home safely anyway

It's about 60/40 the number of fatal accidents not caused by alcohol to the ones that are. And lowering the BAC level from .10 to .08 hasn't really decreased any number of accidents. And originally it was MADD who lobbied at the federal level to change this BAC level. And the states that didn't change the law were withheld their highway funding.

good for you.

Curious....what does the limit typically translate to in number of beers?

Sure it was implicit but on top of voicing your opinion on his decision you could have answered his question. Many of you did not.

Thanks? :usa:

It depends, how big a boy are ya?

So what you are saying is that your factoid about 1000x more non-alcohol related traffic fatalities is incorrect. Nice deflection asswipe.

I think I have made my answer to his question quite clear.

Whooooo! It's been like two months since we had a good old fashioned pot thread.
Posted via Mobile Device

If the # of people who drive drunk were = to the # of people who don't, those figures would mean something. However, there are far more people who don't drive drunk, wich is why there are more accidents that don't involve alcohol. In short, the % of fatality accidents among drunk drivers is higher than those accidents where drugs or alcohol were not a factor.

I think nucky, barry, and undertaker should all go drinking together. And then drive home. On a back road, preferably with no one else around.

Just curious...How many beers it would take to get someone to hit .08. I had 2 beers once and blew a .01.

I bet no one on this forum has ever drove home from the stadium after drinking.

I'm okay with this, but the legal status of drugs doesn't actually have much impact on drug use. Total drug usage including alcohol & pharms is at an all time high and the black market has never been wealthier.

In a comprehensive study of drivers involved in fatal crashes in all 50 states and DC from 1982-1997, it was estimated that .08 BAC laws reduced driver alcohol-related fatal crashes by 8 percent.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...N9b46Q&cad=rja

Wouldn't you say that an 8% decrease in fatalities is an overall "good" thing?

A lot of factors involved like size, how much you ate, metabolism....the general rule is about 3 in one hour to blow over.

16! do it! better stop at 15 to be safe

Probably a faulty breathalyzer or good timing. 3 beers gets you to .10 from what I understand.

It's been a while since I've looked, but IIRC, it's the equivalent of an average man drinking four beers in one hour on an empty stomach.

Luckily for us, I have obtained this videotape of Nucky leaving the parking lot to drive home last night.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uwI0bsSsPMQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Indeed.


You're off topic! :mad:

Well, if you blew a .10, you WERE affected, and you friends breathalyzer wasn't working correctly. Next time use a cops, they're more accurate!

LOL!

That's probably partially true, but the black market for marijuana has certainly declined after the dispensary scene took off in Colorado.
Posted via Mobile Device

is nucky short for knuckle head?.......stupidest post I have seen in a long time

I know how this ends. Nucky goes out to his car tonight and finds a senior citizen and walker imbedded in his grille.

I wish I had a quality, well calibrated breathalyzer for my own use. I almost never drive after even one drink, let alone enough to approach the limit. Still, when I was younger I drove a couple times I probably shouldn't have. Even still, I think I was more paranoid about being pulled over than buzzed. I'd be surprised if I was 0.1.

I've seen little cheap ones for sale, but I'm pretty sure they're worthless.

Too many factors involved to be really accurate. No one number will be the same for everybody. Weight, metabolism, length of time between drinks, alcohol content of drink, et all play a factor. Several years back me and a bunch of guys stopped at the local watering hole after work. I stayed for about two and a half hours. Drank probably a 6 pack of light beer (around 4.5 % alc) in a couple hours. Stopped drinking around a half hour before I left because I figured I had enough. Sure enough got pulled over by the cities finest on the way home. Blew a .06 which was under. But thats a fairly sizable guy with about 3 hours from the time I started drinking until the time I actually blew. And no the limit should not be raised. At .06 I was nowhere near plastered but could tell I had been drinking. At .08 I would have definately been impaired. .10 is just too high for the average person to be driving. Knowing what I know now I try to limit myself to around 3 to 4 drinks if I have to drive just to be safe.

From what I have heard get one in the $50 to $100 range that is DOT approved. These are not as accurate as the full size units but are supposedly accurate to within .01 percent.

And btw even if you are under the legal limit for dwi but the officer feels that you are impaired they can still cart your ass to jail and either make you get a ride home or spend some quality time in detox. Don't ask how I know.

He speaks truth. The .08 limit essentially means the law has automatic proof you should have been arrested and convicted. But if you are under, the burden is on them to provide evidence, usually testimony from the officer, that you were impaired. Either way you will be paying some money.

I do appreciate all the feedback. Yeah I figured I'd get a beatdown for my post but I was just curious as to what others thought about the issue on here.

From now on, I am NOT drinking & driving

Ya, we would expect this. But, the overall rate of usage has not changed but a fraction, hence another example legality has lil to no effect on usage.

FYP

I think it should be. 25. Drivings funner when youre buzzed. Plus you get less angry at the countless amount of morons driving on the road. I swear, do they even make people take driving tests anymore or do they just give them licenses and say "try not to kill anyone."

No the legal limit shouldn't be higher and you're a dumbass.:thumb:

I don't think raising the legal limit is a good idea, because I don't believe the legal limit needs to be the percentage where it puts yourself and others at a significantly greater risk.... and from everything I've ever read and heard, .08 doesn't put yourself or others at a significantly greater risk.

The actual math I've seen when it comes to reaction times (since it's used as a scare tactic for texting while driving) shows that .08 reduces your reaction time by less than a car length at 65mph, so if you find yourself in that kind of situation, you may very well be ****ed regardless. It doesn't mean your're going to run lights and stop signs, weave in and out of your lane, etc.

I guess a lot of people here have never driven home after a few beers at a game or a pint with dinner, because that's really what we're talking about. I don't think Nucky or anyone else is condoning drinking and driving or testing the legal limits, but I know it's a sensitive subject and understand the over-reaction.

Given my "advanced age" and more lenient alcohol laws when I was younger, I can tell you Bearcat (as much as I love ya) you are full of shit. "But for the Grace of God" is the only reason I'm still here, Some can say it's superb driving skills but it's really only the luck of the draw. I grew up in a fairly rural area and to this day I can say that of all my friends that were killed in auto accidents, alcohol was a contributing factor in 90% of them.
I can also attest (with witnesses) to driving or riding with someone so drunk that we shoulda died, yet we survived. Drinking and driving is stupid, and I have been that stupid more than once.

For ANYONE to think alcohol had no effect on these incidences even taking place is way loonier than an old hippie like me.

If you're an old hippie then I, in good conscience, can't believe any word out of your mouth or typed from your thoughts. Sorry.

I didn't say alcohol has no effect and I'm not condoning driving with .00001% or .08 or .20... I said based on everything I've ever read/heard, .08 doesn't have a significant effect.

If you're saying you know of many people who have been involved in drunk driving accidents who had a BAC of ~.08, then I could very well be full of shit.

Thats because you are truly an idiot.

[QUOTE=Bearcat;8791898]I didn't say alcohol has no effect and I'm not condoning driving with .00001% or .08 or .20... I said based on everything I've ever read/heard, .08 doesn't have a significant effect.

If you're saying you know of many people who have been involved in drunk driving accidents who had a BAC of ~.08, then I could very well be full of shit.[/QUOTE]

Yes you are. :harumph:

Was I typing to you? I do believe I was addressing that foxy Bearcat, so back off!