Does AutumnWind talk shit about people? I thought he was mainly just an annoying idiot.

I don't think I voted for him.

Phobia and Frazod rely on R8ers for financial information. That's why he's still here.

No. He's pure football poster. He just picks when to show up and when not too. That's the only thing that makes him a troll.

For some reason, this seems appropriate.

http://memegenerator.net/cache/insta...53/9168294.jpg

LMAO

Put a goatee on that.

LMAO

Phobia posted 10 posts that went against his agreement with the mods.

LMAO

I don't. I care about the right thing. In the past, I've had to live with majority decisions that I disagreed with. The majority, in this case, is both notably overwhelming and happens to be favoring the right thing. Surely you don't expect me to live by majority decisions that go against me but refrain from pointing out when the majority is on my side, do you?

You could have just stopped there.

Maybe it would work out alright if Mr. Hootie were to email a poster who, in turn, posted up his thoughts and stuff.

Would that be okay?

FAX

The mods made the decision that they did. I don't know the story, so... rape.

I want him back. But whatever, though.

God I love this place lmao

Those posts were bullshit, and everyone knows it.

I like Phil. Know him personally and all that. But, this is a bullshit ban and I'm sure even he knows it. At this point, it appears to be more of a pride thing where he won't reverse it, since many of the mods have even said Phil was on his own on this one.

He'll be back. That's what's so hilarious about all this. LMAO

That's already happened. It ended up being just a lot of shots at Phobia.

Yeah those posts were very weak. Hootie must have had a shit lawyer if those were the best terms he could get.

WE MISS YOU HOOTIE

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Hootie had to think about the safety of Cloud City.

Link?

I gotta look through the thread real quick, I'll post it shortly.

Try and make it quick ok?

Here you go, do some leg-work.


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/searc...earchid=623032

Here ya go King

My thoughts exactly, pointless handwringing.

Wow, that's it?

LMAOLMAOLMAO REALLY? That's it? I knew they were going to be pretty tame posts since this ban is BS, but I didn't expect them to be THAT tame. ROFL

That's just ****ing stupid.

So, a vote that is at 57-5 doesn't matter? I get that this isn't a democracy, but when 92% of people voting think that he shouldn't have been banned, then maybe things should be reevaluated.

I want him even though I hated his virtual guts.

No. We must accept that the mods know what is best for CP and do our best not to quesion their impeccable judgement. After all, it is a thankless job and the rules are equally enforced for every poster.

I am a firm believer in banning porn spammers. Hootie isnt a porn spammer, but Hootie is who we thought he is. all he wants is attention, and you're all giving it to him. hes like a mini gochiefs.


I dont think anybody should be banned. I like a self policing state.

How the heck is Gonzo a mod? I question leadership. And banning should be banned.

Do people on here really resort to reporting posts now? :spock: WOW, i say get rid of that ****ing button.

Considering only a few people know the whole story regarding his first of three permabans, the results aren't surprising. Out of those 57 votes, I wonder how many know the whole story and didn't vote based on false information like "Hootie was banned because he spoke out against the DoTY contest" or by simply looking at some of his posts and not knowing why he was on a short leash, etc.

He was permabanned, he knows it was a bannable offense, and obviously shouldn't have been invited back once, much less twice. He couldn't go a month without calling people out, carrying arguments from thread to thread, and attacking people, after already being permabanned twice & specifically being told to let things go. Phobia explains it here, too. How many of the 57 posts considered all of that? Since most of it is buried in a 1200 post thread, I'm guessing not many.

And that's why we took the damn field.

Most all of us know his history. We may not know all the details or whatever, but anyone can feel to share them. I would say he shouldn't have been banned int he first place, and he has always gotten under certain mod's skin where other people get into the same kinds of personal attacks and the like but never get banned.

Anyway, the bottom line is that he was let back and didn't do anything at all to get banned again.

Even Hootie knew the 1St ban was warranted. There's more there than meets the eye.

Wow didn't know all of us were spineless whiners who get hurt when someone talks bad about us with some curse words mixed in. He attacked me and I fought back, but I'm not huddled in a corner, popping pills contemplating suicide. This is crazy. Isn't there an ignore feature? If he's attacking someone, they need to ignore him, how hard is that? Must be lazy cry babies.

Well, the vote is now at 68-5. Maybe someone should share the real story behind this then, because right now it looks like a personal vendetta.

What's your opinion of people who wrongfully accuse people of reporting posts, over and over and over?

I disagree. I haven't done an amazing job of defending my decision the past 24 hours.

Here is my best effort:

Pulling the plug on Hootie's short leash experiment didn't have anything to do with his criticism of the DOTY bans. Clearly, we can handle that kind of criticism productively and find a solution that works in the end.

Hootie was brought back and his specific instructions were to avoid Frazod, Dartgod, and CrazyCoffee since he had a negative history with each of those guys. His additional instructions were to stop being a douchebag. He agreed and said he would just start posting like tk13. I thought that was a great idea.

After being brought back on the short leash program, Hootie was banned for 2 days over the holidays and was warned earlier in the week for an unprovoked attack on a n00b. He continued his caustic behavior with the VERY PEOPLE HE WAS TOLD TO AVOID and the plug was pulled on the "short leash" experiment on Friday afternoon due to multiple violations of his "probation". He even acknowledged that he was in violation of his agreement at one point, so I'm not sure why he's so shocked that he got the boot. One thing I've learned in years with dealing with Hootie is that it's never, ever Hootie's fault. It's always Dartgod, Frazod, CC, Phobia, or a girl for getting drunk and passing out.

Obviously, our idea of a "short leash" probation isn't stellar. We'll abandon that tactic.

Hootie has always been disrespectful of me and despite that, I've always been on board with bringing him back... until now. For those of you criticizing "2 years" - the original setting was "permanent" and I changed it at the last minute because I assumed Hootie would mature over a period of 2 years. I would like a cookie for that display of generosity, please.

He did, based on the short leash we gave him... we were mostly on the fence about letting him back to begin with, and it was a failed experiment. In hindsight, if you don't think someone can come back with the same set of rules as everyone else, they shouldn't be allowed back.... our bad.

it's not warranted. It was incredibly personal and vile. Not everything on this site is public, and decisions are not always up for public debate. I understand the sentiment but if people here think they can do a better job they have 2 options. Apply for mod status, or start their own site.

I really mean no disrespect with that statement, it's just fact.

So, let me get this straight:

Frazod engages Hootie for a generic post, Hootie responds, and that is somehow his fault because he agreed to some bullshit rules that don't pertain to anyone else?

Yes. It isn't hard to avoid arguments online. The posters that get into them here go looking for them.

Ooook we all know the story. Now why didn't the same rules apply to frazod, dartgod, and company? They should have also been encouraged to avoid contact with him. I'm actually getting pissed because this could have been completely avoided if hootie and the parties involved all ignored each other. You gave him an impossible restriction when the opposition had none pertaining to him. They had rights to jump on him when he was supposed to bend over and say, "Please sir, I want some more?" **** that.

It was a pathetic, idiotic post, you weepy little girl. I still retain the right to call people on shit like that.

This isn't about you, you raging douche.

Careful.

Them's banning words.

Then leave my name out of it, and I won't respond, you ****ing ****.

Really, it's that easy.

Whose fault is it?

It's not my fault. I didn't even set those rules. DaFace set those rules for Hootie. Hootie agreed. Hootie told me, "Fine I won't be a dick, or banter, or do anything fun. I'll just turn into tk13."

He didn't abide by the probationary terms. Despite being given two strikes DURING probation.

I know I'm not a Hootie fan. I'm well aware of the mutual disdain. But I didn't force Hootie to engage Frazod or anybody else. I hoped he could avoid confrontations like that. I SUPPORTED HIS RETURN. I knew this uproar was imminent. I knew it wouldn't be a popular decision. I knew I was going to waste half my weekend explaining why. I've moderated sites like this for over a decade. I am aware of the dynamics of an internet community, particularly ChiefsPlanet.

Do you want me to ban Frazod, who is not on probation, who has not been told he has to avoid Hootie? Is it Frazod's fault? Honestly, if it's not Hootie's fault that he can't follow his agreement then whose fault is it?

BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER PERMABANNED AND ON PROBATIONARY RETURN.

It's probably hard for you to understand, but Phobia posted a link to a post you made and Hootie responded to. Then he said Hootie had strict instructions to "stay away from you" as if there is a certain number of feet he is required to abide by.

I give zero shits that you "called him out" for his post, whatever the **** that means in your weird mind.

I do give a shit that he was supposed to just not say anything back to you.

As much as you would love for this to be about you, it isn't.

Yes, I know you didn't set the rules. I would just think that a reasonable person would see that he was simply responding to a shot from another poster and wouldn't do anything about it. It's as if you were following him around waiting for him to slip up. That's the problem here.

And no, I don't give a shit if you ban Frazod. He's a ****, but he shouldn't be banned anymore than the rest of the people on here who do nothing besides get into arguments. It isn't as if Hootie or Frazod or 10 other people only make up that list.

It isn't anyone's fault.

It is your fault for taking an "agreement" to an extreme level that I'm sure wasn't the idea when he was allowed back.

It sure is funny to hear you carry on about poor abused Hootie when you dangled off ROR's nuts forever. I lost count of the number of times you stalked him throughout the board. Hell, he hasn't posted here since September, and still you nominated him in the DOTY poll.

But poor little Hootie, when he's an idiot, we should all just leave him alone, right?

Go **** yourself.

Yet, that didn't really happen, beyond one person following him around. And Hootie not only didn't ignore that person, he started following him around and telling other posters "oh, ignore that guy, he's just a blah blah blah".

We aren't here to babysit... we specifically told Hootie that people would probably try to bait him, and he would have to ignore it. He agreed and followed it for all of 3 weeks.

Your reading comprehension is ****ing horrible.

Where did I say the above? Again, I couldn't possibly care less if you decide to "call Hootie out" constantly. Doubt Hootie did either.

However, he should absolutely be allowed to respond to you, regardless of some "short leash agreement."

But he wasn't, dumbass. Which is the whole point.

It's my fault that Hootie couldn't follow the terms of his probation as defined by DaFace?

I like going to Buffalo Wild Wings a lot. One time I got really drunk and there was an embarrassing altercation with a bartender and a waitress. I got kicked out and told to never return.

A few months later, I called up the manager and told him that I really really liked their wings and beer and that I would do ANYTHING if he'd let me come back.

He talked it over with the General Manager and the bartender and they said that I could come back if I avoided the bartender and that waitress.

Turns out I couldn't help myself. I got into it with the bartender again. I got kicked out again. DAMN THAT GENERAL MANAGER!!!!

Cool story. I would imagine that the general manager would have probably kept his employees in check in that scenario and not allowed them to walk up to your table and take a shit on it.

ZIINNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

My question is. have you guys ever considered banning somebody quietly? I dont get the attention hes getting after the fact.

Why do you have to explain anything? its just begging for threads like these.

Let's say there's a special feature at this BW3 that allows you to... oh, I don't know... IGNORE everything the bartender could ever say to you so that you'd never hear it or see it? Do you think maybe I should have checked into using that special feature at this BW3 since my instructions were to specifically avoid that bartender?

Sure. Hootie deserves to be banned for all the shit he stirs up on the board, but it's super secret shit that most of us don't even know about. That's hilarious.

Every drug addict in the world wants you as their probation officer.

"No worries, it's not your fault. I mean, that bad drug dealer walked right up to you and offered you a rock. What were you supposed to do?"

What specific rules has Hootie broken?

ROFL

Thats my point. they ban an attention whore and he gets an atomic bomb of attention

Happens at least once or twice a month - the quiet banning of somebody.

I make it a personal policy to explain because I don't want to be perceived as a tyrant. That doesn't appear to be working for me.

Nothing about Hootie is quiet. After he was banned, Gochiefs posted his full page Hootiefesto in the Hootie Thread, and then all Hootie's fan boys leaped to his Hootie Defense!

Better than my opinion of people who wrongfully accuse people of rape over and over and over

When did we do that to Hootie? My biggest issue with him is how he started following someone around and talking crap on them. He tried pretty hard to hijack threads and make it about his little feud... only a few weeks after agreeing to let things go and play by the new rules.

If anything, I'd say he took a shit on our bar.

Hootie HAS to be banned quietly..lol..I am disappointed in you, Phillip. ;)

I think he was the one that posted someone's personal info awhile back. He should have done some time and then been brought back and left alone.

Or maybe that was someone else.

Who's been wrongfully accused of rape on this forum, much less over and over and over?

there's an ignore button....it solves everything, if you're an adult

Wrong.

Do you mean billay?

Or DJ'sleftnut?

I'm guessing you don't mean me, since someone of your proven character would never lie about such a thing.

Banned him quietly Friday afternoon. Let the other mods know I did it.