Fun as in jabbing sharp objects up ones arse, yes.

Dude, they better win. im telling you. im betting on this thing.

Hey All. Bills fan here. Thought I would drop by and talk football.

I read through the thread looking for info on what you think about the Bills/Chiefs. Thought you might some accurate info on the Bills. Do not go looking for it at ESPN, as they can't even get our players names right :D While we hate it, we understand it. You can't lose for a decade and...etc.

I am going to speak in terms of the general feeling of our fans, not personal opinion. You can see it for yourself at 2 Bills drive. I am just a poster there, not a mod, etc. However, 2 Bills Drive is pretty much the definitive message board for the Bills.

Offense
QB
Our starting QB is Ryan Fitzpatrick, not Trent Edwards. I believe Edwards is about to get cut by the Raiders. Anyway, we like Fitz, but we don't have very high hopes for him. The problem is: you simply don't know what he is going to do from game to game, because...

O line
Is awful. Then, it's not. Then it is. The general consensus is that we need upgrades here. I don't know how good your pass rush is, but, if you have any studs, they will probably get a few sacks. If the O line is off, your guys will pad their stats. The saving grace here is the offense Chan Gailey(Head Coach/Offensive Coord) is running. We throw a lot of screens/quit slants, so we only really pass protect every 8th play or so. And, we can run the ball with Fred Jackson.

RB
Speaking of Fred, CJ spiller is not the starter on this team, yet. Jackson is who you have to worry about. He is a player. If he played for the Jets/Pats, you'd know exactly who he was. Spiller has looked much better so far, but he still hasn't exactly learned how to allow a play to set up and follow his blocks, one cut and go, etc. But, last game he ran for 35 yards on one play, against the Lions starters, by doing all of those things right, so who knows? The one thing to look for in this game is you ending up with a LB trying to cover our RBs. Good luck with that. If we get any big plays, this is how.

TE/WR
The TE position on this team has been a joke for a long time. We'll see how our new guy does. Steve Johnson is a #1 WR. If you don't have any tall and/or physical DBs, he can hurt you. We really don't know who #2 is, yet. We have a bunch of big, tall guys that are all TO wannabes. The general feeling is that Roscoe Parrish in the slot is so/so. (Personally, I think Roscoe having a big game is the only way we do anything on O, and the RBs catching balls.)

Defense
D Line
Marcell Dareus will be Defensive Rookie of the Year unless Von Miller stands on his head. Dareus has blown up multiple double teams, and frankly embarrassed people. They have pulled him out of games to avoid injury, even with the starters still in there. Our run Defense is massively improved. Kyle Williams is playing well. This is the one position where we now have quality starters and depth. We have been screwing around playing both 4-3 and 3-4, but we finally have the players to make that work. You will probably have to beat us with the pass.

LB
Merriman. It's all about Merriman. We may not get Andrew Luck next year because of him. :banghead: When he has been in, it's literally been lights out. They haven't played him much since the first game, because he showed everything he needed to in that game. Again, avoiding injury, etc. Our other OLB, Kelsay, has been a fan whipping boy for years. Nobody knows why he is on the team, never mind starting. We got lucky by getting ILB Barnett and Davis in FA. We also drafted a few young LBs that look good. But, this entire unit depends on Merriman staying healthy. If he is in there, (and believe me I am shocking myself by writing this, so I can only imagine your reaction), the Bills look like an elite Defense...even with Kelsay.

DB
We have had some good CBs here for a while, but, this year they have looked only OK. We haven't run anything but vanilla defense so far, so it's hard to tell. I am thinking that this unit will probably get over a lot because of the improved front 7. That's good, because they are probably average.

ST
We have taken a step back on ST in preseason this year. Our kicker can hit from 50 consistently, our punter is top 3 in the league, but our cover guys look awful. Same with return. We'll see if that changes if Roscoe returns punts and Jackson returns kicks, because neither has all preseason.

Well, that's it then. I would be shocked if we win. So would most of our fans. Most likely it will be a punt fest, until our D gets tired and you start putting a few plays together. We don't expect our O to do anything because our line sucks. Of course, we are talking the Bills, so anything can happen. :D Even in the SB years, this was the case.

From what I can tell, the only thing that saves us is if you turn the ball over.

My pick: Cheifs 23 Bills 10....and the TD comes from our D.

Nice write up.

on who?

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That's pretty funny.

Dareus, K.Williams and Merriman will be a handful for the Chiefs Oline.

You know what I think, I think the Buffalo Bills are a lot better than their record. This could be a 7-9, 8-8 team....Very much like the chiefs you know? they could be 7-9, 8-8?

We might see the battle of the 8-8's go at it. Ain't that going be fun? Enjoy the game this Sunday guys!

Chiefs may go 8-8. Of course thats about 6 wins too many to get anywhere near Luck. Good that you are not only hoping the Chiefs lose for their future, but will be rooting against them so you can look smart as well. Thus, you aren't rooting against them just for the 'big picture'.

Dude, Merriman has had 4 sacks since 2007. The guy is ****ing DONE.

He has looked good this preseason according to Bills fans

There are Knowmo's for every team.

Merriman NEVER came back from that first knee injury, and I wouldn't expect more than 5 sacks from him.

Most of them seem to think he looked good.

Yeah, right, in a division with NY and NE, they're going to go 8-8, along with going on the road vs. Philadelphia, NYG, SD and Dallas.

Quit smoking crack.

Looked good for a Bills LB or in general? Maybe I am just biased against him being a Charger, but I never agreed with all the media love he got. You take away that dance and attention he brought to himself after plays, not sure he would be so highly regarded. Not saying they guy didn't make some great plays. He did, and I would certainly take him on my team playing at the level he did a few years ago. But its not like came out you play after play, he disappeared for quarters, halfs, at a time.

I highly expect this game to be ugly. Much like it was last season. I still expect us to win.

WR Steve Breaston will wear #15 (formerly #19)

DL Allen Bailey will wear #97 (formerly #71)

DL Amon Gordon will wear #99 (formerly #64)

S Sabby Piscitelli will wear #42 (formerly #49)

TE Anthony Becht will wear #88 (formerly #87)

Go over to Billszone for a good laugh....they are all convinced Dareus, Williams, Merriman and Nick Barnett are going to dominate our offense.

Yep. Sounds like he's back on the 'roids again.

Back to his old self...

Whatever it takes.

Between him, Barnett, and the addition of Dareus, we're much better.

I don't think so! LMAO

Your rook has a learning curve. Your broke dick has an age curve. And the other guy is a druggie. I think you're not that much better. But hey, let's allow Jamaal Charles to figure that out for us!

I like your style, but just cant see us putting up 27 in the first game, other than Charles we'll prolly look like deadly serious ass on O, i'm thinking more like 13 - 7.

Unless that collection of no names comes out like the new 85 bears, we'll win... they have two good safeties & a runner with homerun potential, though he rarely did squat last year. As long as the D doesnt phone it in, its a win.

Becht got jinxed the moment he got #88. Wow.

LMAOLMAO

With or without Cassel, Bowe and Charles will be so fired up it's gonna be sick.

Very few O's look all that good day one, considering our preseason & possible qb changeup... i dont like our chances of bucking that trend.

Thigpen is not into blood, he is more of a bones guy.

Short attention span eh folks? This game is over at the half. Bills 42 chiefs 7

Bills fans are cute.

I think it's some kind of dementia brought on by years and years of being the worst team in the NFL.

Imagine if Herm and Carl had teamed up for like 10 years.

We'd all be mental.

LMAO
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Just trying to rile you guys up a little. Over on the Bills boards it's all doom and gloom. Should be a real interesting game and could go either way.

Only if you start Thigpen.

You do realize they went to the Super Bowl 4 straight years. You have gone full reerun. Buffalo used to be one of the toughest places to win on the road. We will have our hands full.

Don't go by last year's game. Front 7 are a totally different animal (with or without Lightsout)

Are you stuck in the past? They've been a doormat for 15 years. If the Chiefs can't beat them with or without Cassel, this team isn't very good.

LMAO

The Bills have ONE winning season in the last 11.

They're really shitty.

How about these awesome quarterbacks:

Kelly Holcomb
JP Losman
Trent Edwards
Ryan Fitpatrick

Drew Bledsoe was like a tiny god to them.

LMAO wow and I thought faider fans had set the bar pretty high for reeruned trolls. Hey maybe your team can change their uniform design again so you idiot fans will have something to look forward to instead of another losing season. Your team used to almost win the super bowl now people almost take you seriously.

But what about their completely abhorrent offense?

I always love the random fans of the week. Football season rules.

If the Chiefs run for HALF of the amount they did last year they still go for a buck 40. The Chiefs should crack 200 yards on the ground this Sunday.

Yeah you're probably right. The Bills aren't even close to sniffing the playoffs this year. They'll have their share of implosions too. Having said that, however, they'll also have a few butt whoopins to dish out. That's how it is with a talented but young team. We'll see on Sunday which team shows up.

Yup, they can be piss poor, but they also can light it up. I know we're not good, hell we're not even ok. The Bills are another draft away from doing any real damage in the regular season. Totally inconsistent. You'd just better hope they don't grow up this weekend.

good ol' chan gailey. have you guys run the pistol yet? the option? nothing like bringing college offenses that no longer work to the nfl.......

Lee Evans is going to just KILL....................oh wait. Never mind.

OK, you win. I can't find a way to match your swift repartee and ironclad logic. I'll just go on back to the Bills boards where I belong and stop bothering the elite fans of the NFL. Just one last thing. Did you guys ever wish you played in the real NFL like the AFCE for instance or are you happy just chuggin along in the junior varsity west?

So the AFCE is your excuse for sucking?

Look at how well you're doing in the AFCE. Talk about JV. You guys are chalked up as a guaranteed win by those guys.

Where were all these bills fans last year when we played them? lol

That guy is right though, we do have a Cardinals thread on our front page, wtf is that shit?

Dude its CP we talk all things relevant. There is a Helen Keller thread too.LMAO

When you masturbate do you bring yourself to the brink of orgasm watching Thurman Thomas and Jim Kelly and then hit your dick with a bamboo cane hard enough to stop your orgasm and make blood come out of the tip of your dick suddenly as images of Scott Norwood appear on your TV...much like in the Kubrick classic, "A Clockwork Orange"?

Yup, we've been a doormat for over a decade. But things have a funny way of turning around. I was there when it happened in '88 and this team has the same look about it that one did.

You don't have a HOF QB now, not even close.

A) The Chiefs will win, obviously.
B) The Chiefs can take advantage of pretty much every matchup, cause the Bills suck.
C) The Bills have some of the best uniforms in the league.

oh like with this brilliant commentary:

http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topi...-chiefs-homer/

etc...

Good luck, homer.

Not sure you need one to be successful. The SB Bills were built around a strong running game, a dominant defense and clutch execution. Kelly was a part of it, not the whole thing. And you're right. This is Fitz' make or break season, and they'll probably draft a QB in the first round next draft, but stranger things have happened than a late blooming QB.

fyp

For both teams sake, I hope you are right about the late bloomer QB thing.

I bet you stole that off their board. LMAO

He's from miami...

lolz naa just type "Bills are winners!" into Google and its the first image that comes up/

thievery is not big down here, now narcotrafficking that's another story.

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Sorry, I was referencing Bills hatred.

Ahh thats no joke down here.

Dang yall neg repped that Bills fan. Was he that bad? And it's in Buffalo? Isn't it snowing there already, like it does 11 months out of the year?

It shall consume you.

We may have problems on offense, but I think our defense will dominate.

http://www.joystickdivision.com/otrailpic2.jpg

Anyone name the game?

buffalo trail

Sure is a lot of shit talkin going on from fans of a team that we beat last year.

Oregon trail