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Mr. Laz 01-07-2010 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by luv (Post 6420749)
Wanna be my friend?

only if i can be the love slave :fire:

mlyonsd 01-07-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6421191)
Thanks. This is helping me reach closure and self-awareness.

Realize I meant that in a good way. Not all freaks are Frankenstien's.

ziggysocki 01-07-2010 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jidar (Post 6421198)
and yet they sound less close to me than people I would consider "good friends" now. I mean shit at least I'm seeing my "good friends" outside of work.

Even he knew he was being loose with the definition of best friend which is why he went on to explain his own definition. I was just making a backhanded comment about it.

But I guess now he wants to take his caveats back though.. judging by these responses.

Of course it was loose... Cool avatar btw. Where is it from?

Rain Man 01-07-2010 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jidar (Post 6421198)
and yet they sound less close to me than people I would consider "good friends" now. I mean shit at least I'm seeing my "good friends" outside of work.

Even he knew he was being loose with the definition of best friend which is why he went on to explain his own definition. I was just making a backhanded comment about it.

But I guess now he wants to take his caveats back though.. judging by these responses.


That's it. You're no longer my best friend. Ziggy, mlyons, it's between the two of you for who's next.

ziggysocki 01-07-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6421224)
That's it. You're no longer my best friend. Ziggy, mlyons, it's between the two of you for who's next.

How much does this gig pay? Oh, and no gay stuff.

jidar 01-07-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6421224)
That's it. You're no longer my best friend. Ziggy, mlyons, it's between the two of you for who's next.

son of a bitch

Look, I take it back all right? I don't want to ruin what we have

mlyonsd 01-07-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6421224)
That's it. You're no longer my best friend. Ziggy, mlyons, it's between the two of you for who's next.

Pick ziggy. I'd need roller skates to keep up with you.

ziggysocki 01-07-2010 08:33 PM

But seriously in response to the op, I think biology really sets this premise up for fail. Opposite sex are supposed to procreate for the sake of survival of the species. Platonic relationships among the sexes is in conflict with this. The tension is always there, no matter how deep it is buried.

mlyonsd 01-07-2010 08:33 PM

Ok, so we're at the tail end of a blizzard and my best friend (wife) and I are getting ready to go push more snow.

She tries on my bomber hat and says I have a small head. She says she looks at it every day and its a small head.

WTF does that mean? Does she think she's smarter than me?

Time to go bury her in a snow bank.

Rain Man 01-07-2010 08:33 PM

Okay, ziggy, you're in. jidar is out. mlyons is out. And yeah, no gay stuff. In fact, no sleeping in the same bed under any circumstances, even if you turn out to be a girl.

ziggysocki 01-07-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 6421269)
Ok, so we're at the tail end of a blizzard and my best friend (wife) and I are getting ready to go push more snow.

She tries on my bomber hat and says I have a small head. She says she looks at it every day and its a small head.

WTF does that mean? Does she think she's smarter than me?

Time to go bury her in a snow bank.

Make sure you give her a nice warm glass of Antifreeze first.

Rain Man 01-07-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 6421269)
Ok, so we're at the tail end of a blizzard and my best friend (wife) and I are getting ready to go push more snow.

She tries on my bomber hat and says I have a small head. She says she looks at it every day and its a small head.

WTF does that mean? Does she think she's smarter than me?

Time to go bury her in a snow bank.


Who's going out to shovel snow? That'll answer the brains question.

I got a bomber hat for Christmas, and holy cow that sucker is warm. I wore it in today, about two miles in ten degree weather and my ears never even got cold, much less numb.

jidar 01-07-2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6421271)
Okay, ziggy, you're in. jidar is out. mlyons is out. And yeah, no gay stuff. In fact, no sleeping in the same bed under any circumstances, even if you turn out to be a girl.

Man, this is bullshit

Like naming a horse gluestick

Look, if me and your bud light were hanging off of a cliff which would you save?

mlyonsd 01-07-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ziggysocki (Post 6421279)
Make sure you give her a nice warm glass of Antifreeze first.

Temp -9, wind 20. And yes we have antifreeze. Guess that's why we're dumb enough to go do it.

ziggysocki 01-07-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jidar (Post 6421288)
Man, this is bullshit

Like naming a horse gluestick

Look, if me and your bud light were hanging off of a cliff which would you save?

Is the bud light cold? ROFL

Kyle DeLexus 01-07-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 6421130)
Well, we all know that 99% of Chiefsplanet males were the star QB in high school, prom king, voted most likely to be accepted into beautifulpeople.com, and f***ed every beautiful woman at their college and the 3 closest schools... twice. They're so used to looking down to find a vagina or a mouth wrapped around their penis, they couldn't imagine how it's not an inevitable occurrence for every other person on the planet.


yeah, I need to get laid, stfu


Seriously though, my female friends are some of the smartest people I know, and without mutual interest one way or the other, we're not going to ruin the friendship because we aren't mature enough. I don't get why so many people say it's impossible.

Hey don't be hating on us members of beautifulpeople.com! We are just looking for relationships with people who meet our standards and we don't want to waste our time going through profile after profile of 1-8's. You must be at least a 9.5 to ride this ride.....unless i'm drunk....then it's more like a 7.35

mlyonsd 01-07-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 6421282)
Who's going out to shovel snow? That'll answer the brains question.

I got a bomber hat for Christmas, and holy cow that sucker is warm. I wore it in today, about two miles in ten degree weather and my ears never even got cold, much less numb.

Picturing you running in shorts wearing a bomber hat has me rethinking if I don't want to be your best friend. Maybe I should dump the wife that thinks I have a small head.

Lumpy 01-07-2010 08:40 PM

When I was younger, all of my friends were guys. Some became more than friends, some didn't. But now that I'm married, I wouldn't feel comfortable having a guy friend. It's the same w/ my husband. When we first started dating, he had a few chick friends. But now that we're married, he no longer befriends women and I no longer befriend men.

There is just too much confusion when it comes to the whole opposite sex friend stuff when you're married. But if you're single, I'm sure it could work out... but there's always a chance of the friendship turning into more.

Dottefan 01-07-2010 08:40 PM

I had a female best friend once, when I was 17...by 18 she was an ex girl friend. Since then I`ve had quit a few female friends that I would hang out with...but no best friends.

ziggysocki 01-07-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumpy (Post 6421317)
When I was younger, all of my friends were guys. Some became more than friends, some didn't. But now that I'm married, I wouldn't feel comfortable having a guy friend. It's the same w/ my husband. When we first started dating, he had a few chick friends. But now that we're married, he no longer befriends women and I no longer befriend men.

There is just too much confusion when it comes to the whole opposite sex friend stuff when you're married. But if you're single, I'm sure it could work out... but there's always a chance of the friendship turning into more.

I guarantee you all those young guy friends would have jumped your bones in 2 seconds flat given the opportunity. And it doesn't change as times go on, but situation will take the time it takes to try from 2 seconds to 2 days or 2 weeks. They may hold it back, but it is there.

jidar 01-07-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dottefan (Post 6421320)
I had a female best friend once, when I was 17...by 18 she was an ex girl friend. Since then I`ve had quit a few female friends that I would hang out with...but no best friends.

I really think all of these responses from people saying things like "I had a best friend of the opposite sex... but then we had sex" are really 'no' answers. It just hammers home the point that it doesn't work.

ziggysocki 01-07-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jidar (Post 6421354)
I really think all of these responses from people saying things like "I had a best friend of the opposite sex... but then we had sex" are really 'no' answers. It just hammers home the point that it doesn't work.

I second this motion.

Gonzo 01-07-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ziggysocki (Post 6421336)
I guarantee you all those young guy friends would have jumped your bones in 2 seconds flat given the opportunity. And it doesn't change as times go on, but situation will take the time it takes to try from 2 seconds to 2 days or 2 weeks. They may hold it back, but it is there.

Maybe back in the day before we met, that would've been the case but not now. Anyone who's even tried to become friends with my wife are very aware of my "anti-adultery" arsenal.
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ziggysocki 01-07-2010 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 6421391)
Maybe back in the day before we met, that would've been the case but not now. Anyone who's even tried to become friends with my wife are very aware of my "anti-adultery" arsenal.
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I am not saying they would act on it... but that is because of the situation. Not the fact that they want to be 'best friends' that is just better than nothing when they would rather be slipping her the salami.

bobbymitch 01-07-2010 09:05 PM

kcchiefsfan - in this case, to answer your question, no.

My advice to you is to take the bus as you drive through to many signals.

badgirl 01-07-2010 09:32 PM

I think so, I have a male nurse at work and he and I are good friends. This man isn't gay, he is very handsome and works out daily. Yes I can be friends with him and not sleep with him. I know there is an attraction there both ways, but I would never act on it cause I am with Kevin, but we will always be friends.

StcChief 01-07-2010 09:41 PM

It can happen as long as they have S.O.

Lumpy 01-07-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by badgirl (Post 6421654)
I think so, I have a male nurse at work and he and I are good friends. This man isn't gay, he is very handsome and works out daily. Yes I can be friends with him and not sleep with him. I know there is an attraction there both ways, but I would never act on it cause I am with Kevin, but we will always be friends.

He's a hot nurse that lifts weights and stuff? I d/k Badgirl, that is red-lining my recently calibrated gaydar.

Regardless, TTIWWP (for visual verification that my gaydar is correct, of course) :D

tonyetony 01-07-2010 09:58 PM

Only a gay dude would really want a woman as a best friend.

Iowanian 01-07-2010 10:27 PM

I think you could look at the HOC for about 5 minutes and answer this question for yourself.

If you're gay, the answer is possibly. If you're married, the answer should be yes.

JohnnyV13 01-07-2010 11:01 PM

Actually, my current best friend is a young woman.

But, our situation is really weird, and I never expected her to become my best friend.

First of all, my closet friend is someone I met online. I never expected her to become a good friend.

Second,for years, I never actually met her in person.

Third, there's a big age gap between us, which probably explains how we stayed "just friends" + the never actually meeting one another.

But, basically we just chatted online, then she starts calling me. Soon afterward, I helped her solve two large problems 1) how to deal with a stalker guy who wouldn't leave her alone (I walked her through getting a court order) and 2) she had a serious health scare which happened to fall within my father's medical specialty (a medical problem my father says is actually a very difficult one to handle in terms of "bedside manner" with a young female patient).

After that, I basically became her no. 1 person for ANY kind of advice. In a way, asking me about a problem became a security blanket for her. She'd ask me about how to deal with b/f, work problems, her family problems EVERYTHiNG.

Recently, for the first time, neither one of us does has a SO and I actually met her.

A couple of things became readily apparent: 1) I had seen pictures and they were definately attractive, but I always took them with the "internet caveat". Well....actually meeting her...I was quite surprised to see that those pictures SHORTCHANGED her, if anything and 2) if we actually spent much time around each other, in person, it sure as hell wouldn't stay platonic.

Consequently, I'm not sure you can really call us "best friends" or more like "f*** buddies in abeyance".

TigerPig 01-07-2010 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoJC (Post 6420394)
Is it possible to have a best friend who is the opposite sex?

It sounds like you know this, but it is a TRAIN WRECK. The only way it works is if both people don't find the other hot. But most of the time both men and women are shallow enough that we really don't like to hang out with guys and girls we don't find hot as much as the ones we do. In a situation where there are two people who are fun to be around, one being hot and one not, we ALWAYS pick the hot one. But this ends up fucking over the friendship in the end.

Genetically, we were not meant to socialize with each other. That's not to say its impossible, its just not our primary motive of sex, which always ends up getting in the way.

BTW, having a friend with benefits is still a sexual relationship that extends beyond friendship. So IMO this is not applicable to this situation.

KChiefs1 01-07-2010 11:52 PM

It's possible but people gossip & usually think something is going on.

KChiefs1 01-07-2010 11:55 PM

I'm really close with a gorgeous 33 year old woman I work with...I've been to her house & nothing happened. We talk a lot during the day & eat lunch together...nothing has happened. She is gorgeous & has the best looking ass you've ever seen in a jeans. I always love watching her walk away.

luv 01-07-2010 11:57 PM

Friends, yes. Best friends, no.

52decleetzu 01-08-2010 12:01 AM

Very, very hard.

Especially if they are hot.

Started dating a girl who I was best friends with for 15 years over the summer, we currently are not speaking. Lots of drame with her baby's father after he found out, the punk never liked me in the first place and when he found out I was banging her he flipped out.

The only reason we really had not messed around before was because both of us were with other people at the time over those years, but when noone else was in the picture things jumped off.

One other one (girl #1 best friend) I dated for a while back in the day, we stopped talking for a while but lately she wants to be "friends", and while I love her to death I only think about smashing that again so it throws me off a little bit when I am around her.

But that said, I would not change a thing because both of them are smoking hot and filthy whores in bed and I will probably end up knocking down one or both in the future again.

Kyle DeLexus 01-08-2010 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 52decleetzu (Post 6422394)
Very, very hard.

Especially if they are hot.

Started dating a girl who I was best friends with for 15 years over the summer, we currently are not speaking. Lots of drame with her baby's father after he found out, the punk never liked me in the first place and when he found out I was banging her he flipped out.

The only reason we really had not messed around before was because both of us were with other people at the time over those years, but when noone else was in the picture things jumped off.

One other one (girl #1 best friend) I dated for a while back in the day, we stopped talking for a while but lately she wants to be "friends", and while I love her to death I only think about smashing that again so it throws me off a little bit when I am around her.

But that said, I would not change a thing because both of them are smoking hot and filthy whores in bed and I will probably end up knocking down one or both in the future again.



Soooooooooo no.

52decleetzu 01-08-2010 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus (Post 6422402)
Soooooooooo no.

Lots of complications and stress, would not recommend.

crazycoffey 01-08-2010 12:25 AM

It's not impossible, it's incredibly difficult IMO. Sexual attraction is going to get in the way somehow, either; with her, you, her man, your girl...

TigerPig 01-08-2010 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 6422377)
I'm really close with a gorgeous 33 year old woman I work with...I've been to her house & nothing happened. We talk a lot during the day & eat lunch together...nothing has happened. She is gorgeous & has the best looking ass you've ever seen in a jeans. I always love watching her walk away.

See this wouldn't work for me at all. Cause I don't just sit by and let a hot girl I get along with walk by without me trying to get more out of it.

I'm really really not trying to make it sound like you aren't a real man or anything like that (quite the opposite), but how can you sit by and watch a girl who makes you go nuts, and not HAVE to ask her out? I truly admire your restraint, but at the same time am totally perplexed by it.

Tactical Funky 01-08-2010 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6420403)
I've had a very similar experience, Mr. kcchiefsfanGoJC, and have concluded that it is, in fact, impossible for a female "best friend" or "good friend" relationship to remain Platonic. I think it has to do with spending time together. Eventually, something happens. It always does.

FAX

Yep. It's happened to me every single time. Sex is typically great, but when things get awkward...

ziggysocki 01-08-2010 06:38 AM

Don't worry mama, things wont get weird.

http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_...as_Dr_Evil.jpg

JD10367 01-08-2010 07:47 AM

It also depends on what your definition of "best friends" is. Is a best friend someone you can talk the easiest to, someone you enjoy spending spare time with the most, someone you prefer to be around more than other people? Is that not, by definition, thus defining someone you "love"?

Get a grip on yourselves, homophobes, and follow the thinking here. Yes, as much as you wouldn't admit it, and as much as it's (probably, LOL) in a non-sexual way, you, as a guy, "love" your best-friend guy, in a way. Sure, it might be more in the "I'd take a bullet for you" line of thinking than an "I'd suck the poison out if a rattlesnake bit your dick" way, but still... If you're best friends with someone, by definition, it's probably NOT someone you hate, right?

Now, when it comes to guy-guy BFF and girl-girl BFF, if the person is of the same sex then there's no problem. (And by "same sex" I mean "the sex you don't prefer". If you're gay, then obviously it flips the issue as if you were male-female.) But if the person is of the opposite (i.e. attractive) sex, then that WILL have a factor. Because, if it's your "best friend", it already fullfills most of the qualifications you seek for a life partner.

Now, let's say the person looks like Quasimodo. Have you ever noticed it's human nature that, as you get to know a person's personality, how you "see" them changes? If you judge some stranger immediately by physical looks, you can "yea" or "nay" the idea of sex with them right away; but, if you get to know them, whether or not their personality is attractive as well will make them "cuter" or "uglier" to you. It's human nature. It's how ugly guys get hot chicks, and it's why hot chicks get dumped. Because, after all, no matter how physically shallow you might be, ultimately--when you mature mentally--you'll realize that being mentally attracted to someone is equally important to being attracted to them physically.

So, you're a guy, and you've got a girl who's a true best friend, and you feel every nuance of affection for her that's required for a soulmate, and even if you find her a dog you might become more attracted to her as you get to know her better... Do we see the troubling area into which this is heading?

It's biological. Living things are designed to attract and procreate. So it's not impossible to have a best friend of the opposite sex... but it's difficult, if neither of you are already taken. And, frankly, if you're already taken, they can't and shouldn't be your best friend, your spouse should be. Because if your spouse isn't, but this other person is, then I'll bet you $10 you'll be divorced/separated very soon.


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