1. Then we should give up now. Move the team.
2. True. So let's fill the most important one.
3. **** them. I don't care.
4. And few wanted Ryan. This point defies logic.
5. 1983. Get over it. We can't take Peyton Manning111 We drafted J. George111
6. Let's magically create one worthy of the #3 pick.
7. Yes. Two, even.
8. There are busts at all positions. Get over it. Fixate on women's busts.
9. Huge money with all top-3 picks. Moot.
10. See 5.
11. See 1.

This.

You stand by your statement. I'll stand by mine.

This conversation is rehashed daily, so we'll wait for the next, "Unless he's a sure thing" moment. It's coming. Don't worry. And it's not few.

Let's just chip in and buy them their own franchise, so they'll stay the **** away from the Chiefs.

The "Ottowa Window Lickers"; has a nice ring, yes?

Did not read that

How about the Calgary Chickenshits?

Maybe they can get Casey Printers and Tyler Thigpen to battle it out for the starting job.

How can I not be impressed?

1. How many "spread QB's" make it in the NFL?

2. I'm not a Big 12 homer.

ROFL

I was going for Ottowa Kansas, but that'll work too!

Yikes.

Thanks for sharing.

I think.

The only "Sure Thing" I've ever known was 16.

And they was right!

Mascot

http://www.funk-that.com/assets/chickenshit.jpg

I think she had sisters who followed me around college.

Great family.

ROFL

Dane...we get it already...but it's still NOT going to happen

Wanna bet?

All your casino cash for mine?

If either Sanchez or Stafford is sitting there at #3 and the Chiefs pass, you get all my dough.

If they choose either, your dough is mine.

Deal?

Chiefs history of trading down involves us getting Siavii and LJ (missing out on polamolululu)

Robert Gallery was a sure thing

Printers in a heartbeat. He got jobbed by Herm. I mean, really. Let's drop Printers because he was the only fuggin' QB on the Chiefs roster who did anything in pre-season, and let's pick up a DII guy that Minnesota just cut! MINNESOTA!!!11!@11!!eleven!!1 The one team in the league with a worse QB situation, and we pick up the guy they CUT and he's our starting quarterback?!

Herm and Carl and whoever else was in on that should have been fired on the spot.

Okay, okay...*breathes deep*...retributions did come about. All is good and well in the universe.

Post script: Steve Fuller was a Chiefs qb. He was my neighbor when I was a kid actually. Ruined my childhood, so yeah, they better not be drafting no stinkin' qb.

I love this post. Thank you, now I don't have to reply to another freaking argument against taking a QB.

:banghead:

The QB class is an execptionally weak one this season.

Hell the whole top 10 is really weak this season. there's not that one superstar that really stands out over the others.


I say we trade down. We got more holes to fill, this isn't the year we take a QB, at least it shouldnt be.

Grab a vet in FA, play it out with Thigpen, give him a training camp and all the reps to see what he really has, i think hes at least earned that considering what he had to work with last season.

THen if he doesn't pan out, put in the FA vet, look for QB next season. (Bradford)

Como is here to hit us with his wisdom..

Why am I not surprised to see the pimping of 2 big 12 spread monkeys?

I think the fan base is 50/50 on the QB position, just to many people desire to be the 90s team again.

Some will never want one they are the ones who last year ripped on Ryan and this year are taking the exact same argument and doing nothing more than replacing his name with the new prospects.

Then others just frankly don't understand because a guy plays in the Big 12 and you see all his games and he has a high completion percentage does not make him an awesome prospect when he's a spread monkey.

Alot guys into breaking this down, some people just don't realize it or really want to take that into account.

Please - send him up here where he will be appreciated!!!

Why are so many FOR it?

Honestly, I don't care. Matter of fact, for the fan base, they probably should do it. Just to show how difficult it is to draft a franchise QB. I've always been against drafting one high just because it's such a crap shoot. That, and the fact that Chiefs fans are just way too impatient to let one develop. Look at Thigpen. He truly shows promise and yet you guys want to discard him just because there's a new puppy to pick from.

I'm of the mindset that the QB is the LAST piece of the puzzle, not the 1st. Build a good foundation and once you're there, then get you the best FA QB you can find.

Yes Mecca, let us wait until next year so that we can have MULTIPLE scrubs to choose from!

There's just...just....there's NO image, video, poem, saying, or movie clip that can in any way accurately reflect the dumbassery of these people.

It's a whole new level. It's the Aurora spy plane of dumbassery. It's the warping of the space-time continuum of dumbassery. It's the larger than teleportation or time-travel........of dumbassery.

Fire.

Jump.

Die.

Repeat.

Fire.

Jump.

Die.

Repeat.

Fire.

Jump.

Die.

Repeat.

:cuss:

Your probably right. We shouldn't draft a QB because he might not pan out. Instead we should stay with drafting DT's early and often.

http://www.mccsc.edu/%7Ejcmslib/mlk/jackson/jackson.jpg
KEEP SUCK ALIVE!

:banghead:

He passes it to the man, and boom goes the dynamite.

Why I'm AGAINST it:

Brody Croyle will be an excellent QB if he's behind a quality O-line that will protect him (which means, of course, that his probability of getting injured will severely decrease). In the NE game last season, he was getting bumped around and knocked down quite a bit before suffering his shoulder injury. And his most recent injury was from being "sandwiched" by 2 very large defenders. Most QBs around the league would also have received similar injuries from the hits Brody's taken. Building up the O-line will provide him time to throw passes within all ranges, from short to long. And he does have the accuracy and arm to get the ball into the hands of his receivers way down the field.

Tyler Thigpen has shown that he's got the talent and skills to read defenses, make decisions, lead the team, make quality throws, and move the ball.

In short, both of the young QBs we currently have are serviceable at least and haven't themselves done anything so terrible to warrant being replaced or removed from the team.

Improving the O-line will also greatly enhance our running game. Priest and LJ had great running years when they ran behind Will Shields, Brian Waters, and Willie Roaf.

What has LJ accomplished since Shields and Roaf retired? Not much at all, unless you include his off-the-field ability to spit drinks.

I'd also have to say that improvement of our D-line will equally greatly enhance the overall quality of our defense.

So I would encourage Scott Pioli to trade down if possible to get an extra pick or two. But I believe the Chiefs need to pick up linemen and linebackers, with a secondary (well, OK then: pun intended) emphasis on cornerbacks and safeties. Another RB wouldn't hurt either.

Some of these would have to be up for debate. Especially the quality throws. He badly overthrew some wide open receivers at times, and was way off target on some short to mid-range balls in several of the games in December. Probably the best thing about Thigpen was his ability to scramble and pick up yardage, but I'm not completely sold on that talent as being the one to biuld your offense around.

FYP

Im not pimping the Big12 for shit. I just think Bradford is the best out of the QB's that came out this season. And Bradford can line up under center

This is going to get used A LOT in the next couple months.....

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f...to=MS_48731868

Look at this conversation. It amazes me that people are that stupid.

I honestly didn't expect to see a serious Brodie Croyle argument on this forum ever again.

We can't put him in a bubble. The Secret Service cannot be hired to protect him.

It's over. The guy cannot stay healthy. Eventually, even behind 5 HOF linemen, QB's get hit. And Croyle will get hurt, again. And again. And again.

I'm sorry, but not all QB's get knocked out by the hit he took in NE. Croyle is listed at 206, which means he *might, MIGHT* be 200. I'd like see him take the same exact hit with 25 lbs. of additional muscle mass.

My guess, no serious injury.

Let's move on, folks. We're all entitled to our opinions, but...come on...

Let's stick to more meaningful discussions about Croyle. Like Mrs. Croyle and her hotness, for example.

Is it the more of the same? I can't see what it is....I got banned some time ago.

I'll get some classic posts....hold on.

STRONG, the dipshit is at WPI.

God.....****ing reeruned.

The dipshit is strong with this one.

Yep, the Corky Contingent just keeps plugging away!

ROFL

Some of those guys should get into comedy.

.

He lists all Big 12 QB's and one former Big 12 QB. lol.

Case Keenum111

I can't believe I'm saying this, but........I kinda wish I could post there , just to have fun with them, you know?

Dude...this guy is ****ing reeruned. He's beyond fixing.

To him....Thigpen is God!

Quote:
Originally Posted by kcbubb View Post
what if we simply like the defensive players more than Sanchez? I like Rey Maualuga and I like Everette Brown. I also like Michael Johnson. I guess my ideal scenario would be to trade down in the first and take Rey and then trade up from the pick in the 2nd to late first round and take Michael Johnson. I know. I'm one of those crazy people that thinks it is possible to trade down. What am I thinking? Don't I know that it has never been done before...... oh... that's right.... it has been done before. would it be difficult??? probably. but it is possible. would our the players get less money? yes. would they have a better chance of getting to camp on time? definitely.

Pioli's history is a little better. He traded down last year from pick 7 to 10. (I know that trading down from #3 is harder.) They traded with the Saints who took Sedrick Ellis and picked the defensive rookie of the year MLB Jerrod Mayo.

Pioli has a good history of trading down with the Pats. I just hope he can pull it off. I think trading down to pick Rey Maualuga could be great. I think he could play in either the 4-3 or 3-4. I also think Michael Johnson could play in either the 3-4 or 4-3. I'm afraid Michael Johnson will blow up the combine and move up the board too high where we could not get him by trading up into the late first with 2nd round pick.

ALL HAIL SPIT BUBBLE,
SUPERHERO OF THE TRUE FAN!

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What's with the KISS avy?

Haley/Frehley/Stram etc.

Wow....it's impossible to talk with those people. I'm done arguing. They would all just rather grab Curry with the #3 spot because he'll instantly make us competitive next year.

Playing for 8-8 is the way to go!

Oh, OK. Because I was jump in and get a Peter Criss avy to see if a trend could get started. I need a new one anyway, I'm sick of looking at Herm.

I'd love to see Dane, OTW58 and Mecca head over there. I think it'd be pretty funny.

Thanks anyway.


Uhh.....you better go take a shower....you smell like WPI.

Someone has picked up where I have left off.

Not happening.

I posted on the Coalition for a brief time, before wanting to stab myself in the face.

The posters over at WPI make the guys at the Coalition look like goddamn Rhodes Scholars.

I knew you guys wouldn't....I just think it'd be funny to listen to Dane telling them how reeruned they are. And then maybe Hamas could jump in with a "Kill Yourself".

If I went over there and said we should bring back Casey Printers to backup Tyler Thigpen, those ****ers would treat me like a goddamn hero.

This fanbase loves them some shitty QB's.

Here's a take from one of WPI's dim-witted members:

The best part of this clown got wiped up by the sex towel...

LMAO

Even more WPI humor.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f...&vp=36729&vr=0

That must have come from the Ass Hat sector of the board.

Yeah...I figured it stopped at Sanchez but apparently Stafford is a bust as well.

My gosh, I already thought there were too many posters on this board that don't want a QB...

Where does this logic come from?

"We have no o-line so we can't take a QB"

That is the most bass-akward ways of thinking...

Does nobody know the golden rule of the draft?

"You do not pass on a potential franchise QB if you don't already have one."

Period. The End. There should be no discussion.

This is almost exactly what Solomon Wilcots said on NFLN last night. Hopefully Detroit feels the same and the Chiefs will have their pick of Stafford and Sanchez.

Yes! This! Exactly! REP!

Everyone on this board clamors for experience yet you are ready to take a qb with one year of college experience and draft him 3rd. Why? For as long as Pete Carrol is the coach at USC, there will be good qbs. The guy coming after Mark will be a good qb there. No question. So its not like Mark is doing something unexpected. He was put on a good team with a good offensive style. That shouldn't warrant him the 3rd pick.

Look at the last USC offensive players drafted. Reggie Bush isnt an every down back. Matt Leinart cant start despite the 2nd best WR tandem in the NFL. Dwayne Jarrett was on the practice squad most of the year. Steve Smith is like the 4th or 5th WR up in New York. Hell, like I said before, the best players out of USC are back ups. This is a school that has been producing rather average players. If Mark played more than one season maybe I'd feel different. But he had ONE good year in a legend college. He's not a top 5 qb.

:shake:

It's gone from "skipping record" to "nails on chalkboard" now, yes? :rolleyes::doh!:

So Sanchez only looked good because he was on a good team in a good system, yet none of those players are really any good?

:doh!:

What other players? Obviously Sanchez is good, but is he top 3 good? NO! He had one good year. No one knows if he's a fluke or if he's consistent. Do you really want to risk it with the #3 pick? ONE year of experience.

Do you really have any doubt that Sanchez would tear it up next year at USC? Come on, he's proven all he needs to at that level. The only thing that could have happened to him by staying is losing draft position just like Leinart did.

Yes. It is worth the roll of the dice once every 25 years to take a QB in the first round. It can't set us back any further than we already are now. Hopefull the new defensive coaching staff can turn some of these recent high draft picks into players. And even f they can not, we can address the defense much further in the draft next year than we could this year at least early on.

From scout.com.

My. God.

Yes.

Of course he would tear it up next year. Every qb does. But with that extra year. He gains experience. I am not ready to risk giving someone the reigns of this team if he only has one year of college experience.

And dont use the Leinart argument. It's not like Leinart is going in and lighting it up in the NFL is he? All I can see is a bench warmer whos getting 50.8 million dollars in the process.

If we're going to use the first for the qb, I'd rather get Stafford if he's still there, or trade it to the Patriots for Cassel.

Cassel's one year of NFL experience >>> Sanchez's one year of college experience.

We did address the o-line last draft. We are pretty set at LT. It could wse some more work this draft, but there are more rounds past the 1st round to do this with. Might not even have to reach for players to do it either.