If you were truly looking at the overall picture, you'd see that this team has needed a complete enema for 10 years.

The Chiefs are doing their best to stock the roster with youthful talent. There are numerous holes on this roster, even after three drafts. They need at least one more good draft and probably a few free-agents beginning their second contract to be competitive next year.

Anyone who thought they'd win more than three games this year, regardless of offensive coaches and schemes, defensive coaching and schemes, was ill-informed, hopeful or just plain dumb.

Sorry if any of those apply to you personally.

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Did you just call me dumb?

Not directly

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I dont like you anymore...

:D

FYI, I am still just yanking your chain...

The fact is, lack of discipline and poor fundamentals are a staple of ****her coached defenses.

I've said over and over that ****her is the most overrarted Defensive coach I've ever seen.

People point to Keith Bullock and say that ****her is responsible for his development.

I look at Bullock and see that he's the only player that has ever developed that ****her was "coaching" and can only conclude, given ****her's otherwise piss poor track record in player development that Bollock became the player he is in spite of, rather than because of, ****her.

As for Turk, yeah, he ****ed up, but he's a second year player, coached by the worst staff in the league, and yet he is still an ascending player that did make some plays today.

The same can be said for Tank.
Dorsey also played pretty well for a rookie.

Get these kids an actual NFL coaching staff, and an actual RDE, and they could be a formidable group.

The fact is, overall, the D-Line didn't really play all that badly, but they can't maintain their gaps and the LBs gaps too.

I can't in good faith say the line played well when Ryan stood there with no fear of ever even being touched. He stood tall and confident delivering his throws, he looked at more than 1 guy.

I think he's far above most rookie QB's in development from what I saw but also he had 0 fear of getting hit today.

Albert looked a little unprepared in run blocking today, and he didn't dominate Abraham, but neither did he get abused by him.

Not bad for a rookie transitioning from LG to LT in his third game.

Again, we are talking about a rookie, two second year players and a guy that is on his way to the scrub heap.

You, as much as anyone should know that we aren't going to get any pressure from this group.

They have a lot of growing to do, but add a couple of pieces and a real defensive staff, and they can grow.

No

I turned it off after Atlanta scored the 1st TD ..........

Herm has made me lose interest in my team, I knew he would. Herm is a Great talent evaluator, a good Asst. Coach, he's just a poor HC .

The bright spot is Herm continues to lose. That should spell termination at the end.

Great? Uh NO!

More like Mediocre at best...

I personally thought the team did well in the second half. Especially Thigpen and LJ. They played two totally different games from the the first half to the second. I give some credit to the O line playing better in the second half as well. A big difference from last week IMHO. Our offense outscored Atlanta's offense 14-7 in the second half until that pick 6. Thigpen and LJ moved the ball down the field, and, with the exception of Atlanta's first drive of the second half, the defense stopped Atlanta. We still lost, but I am not nearly as despaired as I was last week. I will be watching next weeks game optimistically hoping for a win.

Just for the record we are aware the Chiefs also got outscored in the 2nd half correct?

The 2nd half was a little better but we lost our ass in both halves. We only appear to try when we are already out of the game. Herm ball. We play scared when it is close.

I bet you got so excited by us getting beat that you were jerking your meat you piece of F***. You get more joy out of us losing than a F***ing opposing fan!!!!

Yeah, you're the person to judge talent.

Give me a ****ing break. :rolleyes:

If it means Herm and Carl get fired I'll openly root for the Chiefs to go 0-16.

I don't think you understand that really sucking right now is better to get the fools out of here.

We need a miracle. Get Brady Quinn, and get us a good coach/gm.

Without reading through the whole thread...

How did Albert and Dorsey look today?

It appears Dorsey has had ZERO effect on the run D so far this year....

LJ put up 100 yards in the second half of a meaningless game against pass rushing defensive lines and nickle coverage.

Diaper Boy in first half 7 carries for 20 yards. Kind of similar to J. Kitna putting up numbers in a blowout game. You can convince yourself whatever you want though I don't care but lets call a spade a spade.

I don't understand it. We play a one-gap, correct? If Dorsey is pulling a double team, the LBs should be able to see exactly where the play is going, get there relatively untouched, and nail the enemy bastard somewhere near the LOS. How is it possible that these teams are still ripping 40 and 50 yard runs on us?

FAX

did you watch the game, and skip your chokers?

Just for the record, we do know that the other team knew that we brought in a QB who wasn't anywhere near ready to start, much less play, an NFL game.

You call down by 3 scores in 2nd half in the game?

I was thinking tonight that for 7 straight minutes on both sides of the half, our O looked like things were starting to click and they could roll. Sadly, after the first drive of the 2nd half it looked like the old O came back.

I just don't know how anyone can be positive about getting blown out by Atlanta, they aren't a good team they're another shitty team. You should be able to atleast play a competitive game with them.

I don't think anyone is. But that being said, I can see that some players may pan out, I think Albert continued to looked good. I think that when we stopped giving LJ plays that were to be run quickly into nonexistent holes he did okay, something that he hasn't been given a chance to do. I think Turk is a lot better than anyone expected from him after last year, doesn't mean he isn't making mistakes, but this is his first year getting any playing time. I still generally like the play of our rookie CB's, they are not studs out there, they make mistakes, but eh, they are a lot better than anyone we have brought here in a long time.

Were you seriously expecting a better showing, especially when a team hasn't been able to get first downs all year?

Even I before this year who said the Chiefs were a 1-15 or 2-14 team didn't expect to get blown out by Atlanta.....Atlanta and Oakland were 2 games I thought they had a chance to win when picking those records.....so they are even worse than I thought.

After last week, with Thigpen running the game, what did you expect this week?

Before the season we were hoping that Brodie would work out and stay healthy and that our OC know his ass from a hole in the wall and wouldn't run on first down 98% of the time while the game was "close", and run the exact same play each time.

Dorsey and Tank looked good. From where I was sitting our LB's and S's couldn't tackle, and the LB's were always out of position. The DE's didn't help either.

The runs in the middle seemed to go nowhere, running outside was all day.

the corners haven't looked bad.

maybe that's because not a lot of teams are going to have to throw the ball a lot on us this year