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Say this is Herm's last year. Who coaches the Kansas City Chiefs?
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We didn't exactly play a defensive patsy in Week 1... (Ranked 9th in total defense) |
It amazes me that to this day, people trip over themselves to defend Saunders, even after looking like total dogshit in Washington and now STL.
All excuses, no results. |
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I know in Washington Gibbs really didn't let Al run his offense completely much like Herm won't let any OC come here and do that. |
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IMO the Coryell offense appears to be one of the more complicated offenses to run and takes certain players to execute it just right especially at the QB position. |
The only thing I don't like about these arguments, is people really pick their spots. DV had success at every other coaching stop, except KC, so he sucks. And Saunders had success here but not as much success anywhere else, so he sucks. Instead of people just calling it like it is. Saunders was very successful here. Hard to argue that, very few coordinators ever do as well as his stint here. I didn't really want him to be the head coach but I have no hard feelings for the guy, don't understand why anyone would feel that way.
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Why do you think no one would touch him but Dallas? All I can say is that if that ****er (or any ****er) tried to jizz on me, I would immediately become completely unhinged. |
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That's the real reason the 49er's dumped him. And from what I've been told, they wanted to dump him 5 years earlier because he was such a PITA. |
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Singletary, Spagnola and Ron Rivera are all interesting.
Give me someone that believes the offense should score on every possession and that the defense shouldn't yield a yard. |
I want no one who has ever been employed by the Kansas City Chiefs, nor anyone who is an old Philadelphia buddy of Carl.
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[KCJohnny]Gunther Cunningham[/KCJohnny]
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I love what Saunders did for the Chiefs while he was here in the same way I love Gunther for what he did for the Chiefs in his first stint as defensive coordinator. The common denomonator for both of the those guys is that they had the perfect storm of the right players at the right time.
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Whoever said DV as GM should be hung to death by their pinky toe. After those drafts? Are you ****ing mental?
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Mangino. :D
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Johnson, Rivera, Caldwell, Grimm would all be worthy of interviews.
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I'm retiring in August of 2011. If the Organization can wait until then, I'd be happy to take the reins
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bobby cox
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Wayne Fontes
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I'm fully ready for the Cowher regime to take place.
I liek teh way he builds talent, but discards older players at the right time. I like the 3-4 defense (A LOT). And I like that he isn't afraid of different offenses to fit the players. |
GM .. Marty
HC .. Cowher |
Dorsey would have to put on some pounds to play NT at nose guard, but I haven't really seen anything special out of him yet anyways.
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Dorsey would be worthless in a 3-4. That is the main reason I would stay away from any coach who coaches it.
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And most of those teams would have had a defense that made the offense relevant... |
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Cut him! |
A Pipe dream!!
Think we could pull Jimmy Johnson from Miami?? He is a great evaluator of talent and a good coach for rebuild. Yes, I know he failed in Miami but there were severe cap problems and Marino politics that didn't allow him enough money or time to do want he wanted to thus frustrating him into resignation. Clark would have to fire Carl because Jimmy has an enormous sack that would tell Carl to piss off and Carl wouldn't have that. But think of this lovely scenario:
Jimmy gets his revenge against Jones in the SB. I know it's a pipe dream:shake: |
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If Gibbs let Al truly run his O Clinton Portis would have been the second coming of Priest Holmes. You didn't see that though. I think if Gibbs would have let Al run his O from the very start the Redskins would be looking like the Chiefs of 2002-2005 with a better D right now.thumb:
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This staff is a dispoitment, and the reason we get little from guys that should be Pro Bowl calibre players like DJ. In this defense, Dorsey should be the under tackle and Tyler should be the nose tackle, but Herman ****ing Edwards and ****her Gunningham, in their infinite brilliance decided to play them reversed. Geniouses, I tell ya! |
The coach? who knows. I know one thing for sure though. In 1988 Lamar realized that the franchise had stagnated. The fan base was pathetic. There was not much interest around the midwest for the chiefs. So, what do you do? You make a big splash in the GM and coaching department. You bring in a proven winner and team builder. Most importantly, you bring in someone that the fans identify as credible. If the chiefs are not showing quite a bit of improvement at the tail end of the season, I have no doubt Clarke Hunt will follow dads plan from 20 years ago. So, who fits the bill? Well, Holmgren fits that bill. Cower fits that bill. I am not sure there are many others that do, right or wrong. So, my prediction would be one of those guys.
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What's so bad about Cowher ?
He started a rebuild with the Steelers when they didn't have a qbotf ? He got all the puzzle pieces together and then when Big Ben came available in the draft they picked him up and had an instant winner. The situation is similar here in KC, we need to get some more pieces of the puzzle and insert a real QB. Cowher has shown success in that exact scenario. I can't endorse Marty for coach or GM, Kansas City has a history of screwing up even when they had talented players because of conservative ball playing, good chance Marty would continue that trend. |
People keep mentioning Holmgren but that isn't happening. He is retiring from the Seahawks, not being let go or running out his contract. He is done for now.
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it's truely sad
when you haven't been to a Super Bowl in so long that a coach who took 15 years to get there is seen as a steal |
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True, but ive read a few stories on him and his situation. They mainly mentioned hes done with the Seahawks and probably coaching, but he could be lured in a GM role if the price and situation was right. Its something hes always craved and i think he used to have a GM role for awhile in Seattle before he gave it up. Probably just a pipe dream having him in KC though.... |
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It's music to my ears. :D |
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Mike Ditka comes in.......fires Gunther.........brings in Buddy Ryan
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Look no further than people that Carl Peterson already knows personally. He would never consider looking further than the shallow end of the talent pool.
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I don't know if this guy has been mentioned yet (haven't read the entire thread), but a younger guy might be the ticket ... Jim Schwartz?
FAX |
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I think he's a guy that understands the way the game has evolved in the past 10-15 years. |
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He's obviously a defensive guy, though. I'm not sure if that's good or bad at this point. But, he's young and I think that, whoever we hire, it should be someone who can create an identity with the Chiefs and stay with the team for awhile. I read an analysis a long time ago that correlated head coach tenure with winning tradition. It was striking how many teams with consistent success had also retained the same HC for a long period of time. These days, most owners will can a peep in two or three years, but I'm not completely sold on that idea. FAX |
I'd take Ned Yost. I'm sick of our continual lateral-hirings.
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Herm won't do that (see him running the same plays at NE that he FIRED Solari for). IMO, an agressive philosophy of the game is what's important. Herm does not have that. He plays not to lose. |
I think someone else mentioned him but Steve Spanoulo gets my vote.
He spent time in Philly with Andy Reid and coordinated an aggressive Giants defense to the Super Bowl. He appears to be a sharp guy with a good acumen. And coming from the always competitive NFC East wouldn't hurt. |
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one thing i thought of : is clark going to fire carl with one year left??? if not why get rid of herm when a new gm would probably want his own guy? also then why get a new qb who might or might not fit in another coach's system(see matt leinart)? so that tells me that it may well be several years until this ship gets righted. UNLESS CLARK IS SERIOUS ABOUT WINNING AND NOT THE BOTTOM LINE
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I think the front office has Dick Curl on the short list.
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The front office of this team could get a miracle from God as far as finally getting the personell we need and still go no where. And Cowher's demeanor is completely different than Herm's. This team needs a serious kick in the ass, not Herm's ready made excuses. |
Maybe Ron Prince will be available...
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I say we still ought to try to lure Jimmy!!! He is a great evaluator of talent and a good coach for rebuild. Yes, I know he failed in Miami but there were severe cap problems and Marino politics that didn't allow him enough money or time to do want he wanted to thus frustrating him into resignation. Clark would have to fire Carl because Jimmy has an enormous sack that would tell Carl to piss off and Carl wouldn't have that. But think of this lovely scenario:
Jimmy gets his revenge against Jones in the SB. I know it's a pipe dream __________________ You can think anything, but it is what you know that counts. |
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what you need is a team that can sustain long drives, not one that scores in three plays. |
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Gary Pinkel
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Bob Stoops.
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The three guys I'd talk to are Spagnuolo, Ron Rivera, and Mark Richt.
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I know! Mecca for GM. He knows everything. And I bet he will know exactly who to name as coach. Superbowl here we come. LMAO
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