Never seen Denver lose in that fashion...in over 25 years...ever.

I've barely been alive that long, but I've never seen a blown call on a "walk off" situation like that - ever. I've seen blown calls that definitely give one team a major advantage, but not one where the results of the call could directly declare a winner.

There's been bad calls on key plays...for so long and it got so bad, that's why instant replay was brought into the game. Ive been waiting for Denver to get their 'come uppance' for years...the Elway years were astonishing...still waiting.

I saw this on nfl.com...Shanahan's comments on the reffing. Yeah, you've gotten so many calls, it's hard to be thankful anymore:

No, it wasnt like 'somebody' gave you the game, no...they just gave you possession after your QB fumbled which would have meant the END of the game.

Oh really? Well, WHEN?

We'll all be waiting.

:whackit:

I just got to see the First Quarter play with Chambers/Bailey.

Chambers was down by contact, so yeah, whoever thinks he wasn't, um...you're dumb.

Dante Hall kick return for a TD...a grossly obvious block in the back with the ref looking right at it...non-call. But that doesn't count because the Chiefs were the ones getting over.

Officials make mistakes that "cost" teams the game in all sports...for all teams. Not only that...the Dolts could have sacked up...and stopped the Donks on either of two successive plays...but they weren't good enough.

Carolina carried them up and down the field in week one...and they've got a nice excuse coming out of week two. But the fact remains that the only player on their team playing at championship level is Rivers. (We'll see what Sproles does from here on out.)

I dont like that reasoning because we SHOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO STOP YOU ON 4TH DOWN AND THE 2 PT CONVERSION BECAUSE THE GAME SHOULD HAVE BEEN OVER, AND YOU CANNOT DENY THAT.

LOUD NOISES!!!

Oh yeah, I was at that game. What a great play. :thumb:

Anything we get over on you is JUSTICE. If one of our receivers went Billy Cole on you scumbags, you'd have it coming. Remember the cooking spray? Anything bad that happens to Denver, ever, they've more than earned.

Eh....very close, however, in that play there was no review of the play and the ref acknowledge the fact that there WAS a block in the back and as such because of some dumbass arcane rule award KC the ball on the 10 yard line of Denver. No, there was just a no call...

Denver homers dont want to start comparing non-calls, especially if we count the Elway era. Illegal forward pass non-calls, anyone?

I love what Boomer said during ESPN halftime show while recapping the game. He said they went for the two points cuz Shanahan was playing with house money anyway....

You know what...I remember that game. Elway was at least a full yard over the line of scrimmage. When the Donks get over I giggle and enjoy it...because they do get screwed to.

The rule isn't arcane. It makes sense. When the whistle blows the play is dead. It's not the Donks fault that Hochuli wasn't in position to make the proper call. Replay showed Hochuli wave the pass incomplete...and he was man enough to admit his mistake.

And I'm sure these would be your exact words had the shoe been on the other foot.

It was 100% called correctly after the fact, but the fact that it wasn't called right in the first place is a travesty.

It never takes more than a few seconds for Chiefs fans to invoke the cooking spray excuse. Forget the fact that the Donks out hit the Chiefs in that game, and playoffs Marty choked. Hah! Anytime I hear KC fans whine about cooking spray I giggle.

I admit I don't get the Billy Cole reference...I just hope know one goes Dale Carter on Lionel Washington.

Game? Try GameSSSSUHHH....

Yeah, it's an arcane rule...inadvertant whistle is BS. It's cover for the Ref's when the crap the bed.

He shouldnt have made the call, because precisely, he wasnt in position.
When did league make it ok for referee's to make the call when they werent in position?

The Donkey's were +1.5 Dogs yesterday, I know that Mr. Ed had a fix on it.

I don't know. Generally I only stay pissed/irritated for 30 to 45 minutes after the game.

What's awesome is how you people act like Denver has never been screwed, or your team(s) has never been the beneficiary of a bs call. Whatever. The Donks still had to put the rock in the endzone twice (running the same play), and stop the Dolts from kicking a field goal. Cripes. Jay Cutler is a sadist for throwing that pick.

Altough...I'm pretty sure on the first play after the 2pt conversion...Chambers was running free and Hochuli tripped him.

You guys got screwed for sure! Them Broncos just flat out piched us a beating! I am not sure which hurts worse. Atleast your teams know they should have won.

Yeah, I'll bet you giggle a lot, don't you?

I always love the way you cocksucking trolls gloss gross cheating over with horseshit excuses. But that's fine - the most despicable organization in professional sports certainly deserves fans like you.

Hah!

ROFL

How am I trolling? This is in reality a Donks thread. I completely understand Chiefs fan's hatred of Denver...heck...all you have to do is look at both team's histories over the past 30 years to understand it.

I know the Donks got a favorable call yesterday...all I've said is that all teams get them. The Donks just took full advantage of theirs.

Have the Chiefs ever benefited from a ref's **** up? Clearly you're saying they haven't.

They dont F! up in KC's favor...not to the degree that they do for Denver.

Not to the degree they do for Denver? Will you list all of these calls that the Donks get? As many as you'd like...not including yesterday's Hochuli mistake though...that's too easy.

When the opposing team's blatant, obvious, inexcusable cheating is a key factor in Denver being knocked out of the playoffs, and that team goes on to win the Super Bowl, check back with me.

Ok. Will do! :thumb: You do the same when it happens to KC.

I photoshopped that.... down to the red lines in the eyes... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...6&postcount=15

Rivers is known for this taunting shit. He did it in the playoff game against the Colts last season... classless.

All this sucking up to our AFC west rivals by you guys is making me sick. Grow a pair. I don't care if our team sucks shit. The Chargers, Raiders, and Broncos all suck period.

Certainly not against the Chiefs and Dante Hall...

I'd be offended at your ridiculous assertion if I didn't know that it's all made out of jealousy from you.

What a load of a BS. It's easy to look the other way when it's your team that gets the benefit, but it wasn't too long ago when Dante Hall returned a punt against the Broncos for a TD and there were two blatant block in the backs that went uncalled and the Chiefs then barely won. It happens to all teams where bad calls hurt you and help you. Luckily for Denver they helped this week.

A block in the back is not as bad as what happened yesterday.

A crucial call at the end of the game, when the Ref was not 10 yards away, I cant get over this.

He was down by contact - the problem is, he hadn't actually caught the ball at that point. He didn't have control. The only time a player got control was when Baily finally secured the ball. There was not enough evidence on the tape to reverse that call.

Uh, ok....

How can you say that if they didn't even review it?

Guess what? You guys had a chance to shut us out of the endzone and walk away winners. But for the second week in a row, your defense choked and let a team into the endzone at game point. Cry all you want about how you shouldn't have been in that position. That's not going to change the fact that you guys gave up 18 catches to Brandon Marshall and then choked on the 2 point attempt allowing a rookie to navigate the endzone and put you away.

Just read the post you quoted again, thats my stance on the issue.

Anyone can say that. All they have to do is know the rules. He had one arm on the ground, and one arm trying to secure the football against his waist, with Champ Bailey vying for possession. Chambers had not secured the football and then made a football move. The ball was not caught until Bailey came up with it, which was essentially the ruling on the field. There was not enough evidence to overturn that call.

Read the scoreboard. That's my stance on the issue.

Give it up, BK. You're arguing guilt or innocence with O.J. Simpson.

Ok, Im done I guess.

Hah! That's outstanding.

Yeah right that's easy as hell for you to say, the fact was there was a few minutes left in that game and not 1 but two blatant block in the backs happened that actually DIRECTLY gave the Chiefs a TD because he scored on that exact same play, at least the Chargers had a few chances to still stop the Broncos and win after the bad call. It's easy to say its the worst for you when it goes against YOUR team.

Great work! I believe Cutler was voted the athlete who looks most stoned or something to that effect by High Times magazine.

Because the bronco's can do no wrong and don't get breaks, it is just the way it is meant to be. While most the other Denver fans are saying that you got screwed, Taco is hearing calling the ruling right, just as he called all the rulings in their last playoff game right, just as he ignores the shot right in the back of Williams knees while he was standing around by Shannon Sharpe right before DT tried to rip his head off.

You're right about one thing. I sure don't feel the least bit guilty about this win. Perhaps if Brandon Marshall hadn't turned Cromartie into his personal wheelbarrow to the endzone all game long, I'd feel bad. Perhaps if Shanahan didn't give them the opportunity to keep us out of the endzone, only to see a rookie get the best of their so-called Superbowl-ready defense, I'd feel bad.

We'd have made the playoffs two years ago if the refs didn't blow two key calls in the Sanfrancisco game. We had damn near the same call we saw yesterday go against us vs. Chicago last year.

San Diego is 0-2, not because of the refs, but because their defense doesn't have what it takes to keep the enzone clear in the closing seconds of the game.

Forget the fact that if there was a replay the Chiefs that TD by Gonzo would have counted near the end?

Dear God,

Please forgive me for agreeing with Taco John.

I did call the ruling right, because it was right. The call itself was wrong, but I can see why he missed it. It looked like a classic tuck rule situation when happening in real time. But once he made the judgement that it was an incomeplete pass, he blew the whistle. That's it. Play over. It's unreviewable after that point. Everybody knows this. It's taught that way from pop-warner all the way to the pros. Once the whistle blows, the play is dead and no one else gets hit. It's never going to be changed. There is no way to 'fix' it because it's about safety.

He got the call wrong, but he got the ruling right. We benefitted from it. It's about damn time. We've been on the raw end of those kinds of calls for the better part of a decade, if you ask a Broncos fan. I sure don't feel guilty about it, especially considering they had the opportunity to stop us from putting up the go ahead 2 pointer for the win.

Well I remember that play very clearly, and excuse me if I am wrong, but if I can just borrow your reasoning for a second. You had 9 other guys who could have tackled him, and If I remember correctly, there were 2 missed tackles on the play, and also the Denver Coverage team was completely out of their lanes. When a Kick Returner dances around for 10 seconds, he should not be able to return that, block in the back or not.

Actually, in this instance, the Donx thieving despicable shit actually worked in my favor, since I put high points on them in the pool. Game in Denver+thin air+bought refs = Donx win.

And as always, your sorry-ass justifications are good for a laugh. :thumb:

Bet the over in Denver games this year. It's free money with this particular offense coupled with this particular defense. It's the closest thing to a free money machine that you'll ever find.

...not to mention, apparently there is a league-wide conspiracy to give Denver wins. I'm not sure why people like you and Titus aren't butt-****king rich given your knowledge of this plot.

This.

You are 100% correct with this statement. I am not arguing anymore, so just hear me out.

The whistle actually didnt blow until right about when the Chargers LB had it, but it may have been a couple seconds before.

Both Jay Cutler and Tim Dobbins continued at 100% effort even after the whistle had blown. That is why the NFL is likely to come up with some kind of rule change this offseason.

You won the game, thats in the books, but you cannot deny that in a game where the Chargers did not get one bounce their way, until that play, it is shitty for the Chargers fans to get that taken away from them.

Yeah and the Chargers had 2 chances after the bad call, they had two drives earlier that ended up as FG's right down near the endzone. The Chargers had plenty of other plays and drives that they themselves screwed up, not to mention the 2 minute march down the field to give denver another TD right before half.

Well, it's only one game a week, and besides, the bought refs-shit only works in close games.

No they won't. They're not going to come up with a rule change. There absolutely no way to do it. You can't ask refs to guage whether a player is giving 100% effort or not after a whistle has blown. It's impossible.
You can't tell who's letting up, and who is not when EVERYONE is supposed to let up after the whistle. This rule will never change.

I wish we'd have had a lot more close games the last few years then. :lame:

Thats why I was discrediting your comparison because it shouldn't have mattered, right?

But it did. Perhaps that's why your players couldn't stop Eddie Royal... They were too busy mentally defeated thinking that this play shouldn't be happening...

I'm sure it will, just like the down by contact rule.

Before they changed the rule prior to last season, if they ruled a player down by contact and the whistle had blown, the play was over, the offense keeps the ball.

The change made it so that even if the player was ruled down by contact, and the whistle had blown, if it was reviewed and determined that the fumble came before the whistle, the defense would get possesion, but any return of the fumble after the whistle had blown would be nullified.

If they used the same theory in this situation, the Chargers would have been rewarded possession at the spot in which Dobbins recovered the ball, but the extra 5 yards he picked up would not have been granted.

I know but the whole reason I brought that play up in the first place is because trust me I know how it feels to go into a division rivals place and have it feel like it was stolen away. It sucks but it happens and yes I admit I'm glad the Broncos were on the good end of that yesterday.

Yeah, it is lame. With all the cheating you guys really should have had much more success over the past decade.

Super Bowl, Denver vs. Washington. Redskins QB Doug Williams takes the snap, drops back, trips over his own feet, drops the ball, Denver recovers...

...BUT WAIT! The refs rule "Williams gave himself up." Play dead, Redskins ball.


Super Bowl, Denver vs. NY Giants. Throwing from deep in their own territory, Elway completes a pass to his Tight End for a first down...

... BUT WAIT! The refs call it incomplete. It goes to the replay booth for review... but the clock doesn't stop and the Broncos are forced to run a play. The play results in a safety - and the replay booth announces the original pass WAS COMPLETE... but it's too late. The Safety stands.


AFC Playoffs, Denver vs. Kansas City (yes, that same game). Chiefs punt, ball CLEARLY bounces in the endzone, but it's called dead at the one-yard line. Of course, in THAT GAME the Broncos overcame that travesty and WON instead of crying about it for the next decade+.


Good enough for you?

No, dickhead, it isn't.

Deliberate illegal application of a foreign substance to the uniforms of your players IN THE LOCKER ROOM BEFORE THE GAME does not equate with a blown call.

Final Score, Super Bowl XXII - Washington 42 - Denver 10

Final Score, Super Bowl XXI - NYG 39 - Denver 20

Final Score, Chiefs vs. Denver Playoff Game - Denver 14 - KC 10

Final Score, Chargers vs. Denver week 2 - Denver 39 - SD 38

The first 2 instances happened in blowouts, the latter 2 were in way closer games.

Neither of those Super Bowls were blowouts till after the horrible calls. Especially that Giant game was winnable.

And when the calls were made, the Refs DIDN"T KNOW they were going to be blowouts - OR DID THEY?!

As for the "illegal substance" - THERE WASN'T ANY!

Marty's complaint was that there was TOO MUCH - that's why the refs just had the Broncos towel off. There were - as I recall - NO PENALTIES CALLED AND NO FINES.

Or do I misremember?

There wasn't any? That's rich.

Yes, I'm aware there were no penalties and no fines. The ref$ were in the Rat's pocket from the time the game started until it was over.

Keep on trying to rewrite history though. Maybe you can grow a soul as well.

ROFL

**** you with your the refs were/are in the Rat's pockets nonsense. The Chiefs haven't won anything because they're a piss poor franchise.

There is absolutely no basis to your allegations aside from the fact that THE BRONCOS RULE ALL!!!

The material was legal - the Broncos just had too much of it on their uniforms - kind of like THIS:

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That's funny, Stink has admitted to it and laughed about on the air at ESPN. It's documented. It's common knowledge - has been since it happened. No matter how many degenerate inbred trolls crawl out of the mountains and deny it, that won't change what happened.

Chargers fans are hilarious.


If the same thing happened going the other way and they benefited, it would be a non-issue and im sure they wouldn't be talking about petitions and the such in that case.

I also don't remember Chargers fans mourning for the Raiders when the the tuck rule game happened, yet they want the whole football world to feel sorry for them.

The non-stop implosion and fallout at SignonSanDiego.com is wonderful.

Im glad the game ended w/ the controversy it did. It just twists the knife that extra little hard.

The way a lot of you Chief fans are jumping on their pity wagon is wonderfully disgusting.

Go Jets! 0-3

Wow, this thread is like ringing the dinner bell for every dickhead Donx troll on the internet. Where are BelowAverage and LB52?

Do you cringe with anger when you pass the cooking spray display at the grocery store?

Does it haunt you?

has it changed your shopping experience?

The cellar dwellars swinging on our nuts. Hang on tight!

No. I'd rather take the loss than win by being a cheating pussy.

True, but had our roles been reversed, youd be complaining too.

And here I just thought you were Ari's handpuppet, but you end up being a Donx troll. How cute.

Grow some nuts first, sweetie.

Freshen up my coffee.