pwnd?

I think the only one in that situation is the sad sack who carried this grudge in the back of his head all year.

Aside from that. This thread is reserved for people named as All Americans. Thanks for your help in keeping it that way in the future.

Poor guy, I absolutely LIVE under his skin.

Andre Smith (pictured top left, #71) with the All-American team.

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we get it, you want to have Andre Smith's baby gravy in your mouth. suck away...don't forget to gargle

Cool picture, link to the All American team?

Ah, Playboy.

Thats fun. :)

You see, in the first post that started this thread. A YEAR AGO. The link is to ESPN.com

Just a note.

Keep posting your smart ass remarks because Andre Smith is going to be a slam dunk consensus All-American and he's going to take home the Outland Trophy. Keep dogging a College Football Hall of Famer.

This is the eqivalent of somebody belittling Michigan's Dan Dierdorf in 1969, USC's Anthony Munoz in 1978, UCLA's Jonathan Ogden in 1994, Ohio State's Orlando Pace in 1995 or Alabama's Chris Samuels in 1998.

Keep trashing Andre Smith. In the long run, you are going to be the fool with the pie in your face.

:clap:kcchiefsfanGoLJ is the smartest poster in this thread. Yes, I nailed it:)

Dude, you are defending things I am not saying.

Maybe he will be an All American...that is fine. I never said he wouldn't be.

But when this thread was started he wasn't...and even now he isn't.

This was a thread about All Americans and he didn't match that. ROFLROFL I am sure the guy is a great player, nobody is trashing him...we were all just saying the facts. He wasn't an All American.

This really shouldn't be that difficult.

And when if\he makes the All American team. This thread will include him as well...

Nobody will have pie on their faces for stating the facts. ROFL

He wasn't an All-American? What is this then?

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And this?

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/NCAA_2007/All-Americans.htm

I don't care what the AP voters said last December, they were wrong. Andre Smith was snubbed.

If you don't think Smith deserved to be an All-American, let me hear your argument. I have to get an explanation about his play from kstater or you. You guys keep running in circles, blabbering about the same mindless bullshit.

I'll bet DAKCman hates this.

Playboy Magazine and NFLDraftdog.com

Running in circles? It doesn't have to do with anybody deserving anything. That is for YOU to obsess about.

I am talking about being an All American Football player. Which he wasn't. Nothing more nothing less. Flail around all you want. It doesn't change that fact.

In the future? I don't know. When he actually becomes an All American then he should be apart of this thread.

Like I said, this is a very simple thing.

Going by your statement, we are only allowed to discuss the players named to the All-American team.

That means if you disagree with the voting, you are not allowed to vouch for a deserving player that might have been snubbed. You're not allowed to make an argument on why he deserved the honor over another player.

Lets don't question anything the media does. They are always right. They never make mistakes.

Lets just have a circle jerk and talk about how all wonderful the All-American team is. That's what you want, Zach.

You are more than welcome to say anything within reason. This is a relatively free board.

However, it won't go along with what the thread was about.

NCAA All American Football players. Nothing more...nothing less.

Everything else is just you being a drama queen that has felt shunned for a year by this simple thread.

Playboy Magazine's All-American team is a tradition that is widely respected in the college football community. The fact that you are belittling it demonstrates how little you know about college football.


Andre Smith was named to the Playboy team. Very prestigious honor. He's already an All-American.

There is a reason why they call it Playboy All American....

They have to distinguish it from the REAL thing. You know that though, if you really thought he had gotten the real thing you wouldn't have been crying about it on this thread and then reserving more tears a year later.

The funny part is...

I haven't trashed the guy at all. He is a good player. I am just reminding some people in this thread the fact that he isn't an All American football player.

Playboy All-American team is a legitimate deal. How many times during the college football season do you see a collection of players of that magnitude come together for a photo op like that? In the land of college football where trips and perks are closely monitored, why do you think the ADs and SIDs encourage the players to make the trip for the team photo? Because it's a significant honor.

REAL thing? There's no such thing as an "OFFICIAL" All-American team. In fact, the AP team is not even universally recognized as the most reputable list.

WRONG! ROFL

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Why go in vagina mode in this thread at all then?

I mean...he made THE team right?

Or maybe you are rationalizing.

Poor obsessed Bronco fan.

Jumping through hoops for our validation of his man crush. Letting a thread bother him so much he posts a year later.

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Why do they call it the American College Football Coaches Association All-American team?

Why do they call it the Football Writers Association of America All-American team?

Why do they call it the Sporting News All-American team?

Why do they call it the Walter Camp Football Foundation All-American team?

Why do they call it the Associated Press All-American team?

What is the real thing, Zach?

Many many times people just say All American Team. Take a shot in the dark which one they mean.

It isn't Playboy.

Aside from that if he made the TEAM then why all the tears lil guy? Seems there would be a reason for the flailing. You know he didn't make the team most people see as THE team.

There's no such thing as THE team.

Your butthurt posts say otherwise.

No, I felt Smith deserved to make the AP All-American team. I made a strong argument that he was snubbed. He had a lot of strong things going in his favor, but historically sophomore offensive linemen have to wait their turn.

No big deal. My point the whole time that Smith would blow away the competition this year by such an overwhelming margin that voters that overlooked him last season would look back and regret it.

And when Smith leads Alabama over Florida, becomes a CONSENSUS All-American, takes home the Outland Trophy and helps the Crimson Tide win a National Championship, it will only strengthen my argument the voters made a colossal **** up last year.

Sure.

Zach

Bottom line, you are a novice when it comes to college football. You are better off sticking to Chiefs topics. It's not your fault though. You didn't attend a major Division 1-A school. You pretty much jumped on the Mizzou bandwagon when they started winning because it was the new fad in the Show-Me State. It's totally understandable. I forgive your ignorance.

PBJ PBJ

100 post thread.

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Can I have it?

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Did I say he wouldn't win the Outland Trophy or that he was a bad player somewhere along the line?

I have never trashed the guy.

You are really sensitive.

You did trash him in POST 38

Jake Long and Ryan Clady are going to have standout football careers, but Andre Smith's future is a lot brighter than Collins, Barton, Stanchek and Baker and I am going to rub it in every chance I get. This thread will be bumped until Smith puts on the gold jacket in Canton, Ohio.

I am just living up to my word in post 17.

If you look at post 7....

I just made a simple opinion be known, but you and kstater had to drag this shit out and mock me because we had a difference of opinion. This is your doing, not mine.

If you are going to talk shit about a special player, you deserve to be singled out over and over for being a dipshit.

Context is a wonderful thing. As of last year, Zach was correct.

Drag this shit out?

You were the one obsessing over it for a year.

When pressed last year, kstater or Zach could not come up with any tangible basis to support their opinions about Andre Smith.

I didn't have an opinion about Andre Smith. None...the guy could grow up to be the best lineman football had ever known and it wouldn't effect me in the least. Best of luck to him.

What I had was the FACT that he wasn't an All American.

You are emotionally tied to his success. Him being good or bad is of no difference to me.

When pressed last year, Hermcock/Orangecameltoe couldn't come up with tangible basis as to why Andre Smith should be named above the All-Americans selected.

Nope. I am just letting you know you were wrong. And the burn hurts or else you wouldn't be wasting your time posting. The fact that both of you keep coming back is evidence that you both feel ridiculed ROFL

I didn't even remember this thread until DaKCManAP posted a thread about the awards finalists and I saw that Andre Smith was selected as an Outland Trophy finalist.

Wrong about what?

You are literally making up opinions I don't have.

I did say Smith was a superior lineman to Ohio State's Kirk Barton. I said Barton was an average pass blocker who struggled against speed rushers. And the guy was so good he lasted until the seventh round of the 2008 draft.

In your opinion, Andre Smith was not worthy of an 2007 All-American honor.

Draft selection isn't based on college awards. Otherwise Jason White, Troy Smith et. al. would have been shoe-ins for #1 overall picks. This thread was a discussion of 2007's All-Americans, which didn't include Andre Smith.

You better watch what you say, because there's a decent chance Smith could wind up with the Chiefs.

And of the opinion of the voters of the actual award. In fact, as stated several times, he wasn't good enough to even make the 2nd or 3rd team.

So the GREAT Andre Smith will be a top 3 pick now?

Thats fine, I haven't said anything bad about the guy. ROFLROFL

I can live with a great lineman who wasn't an All American last year.

And that's the problem.

20-30 years ago, the college football writers use to give the Heisman to true gridiron legends. Guys like Earl Campbell, Tony Dorsett, Marcus Allen, Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson, Tim Brown, Barry Sanders. Players who fit the criteria of being the "best collegiate football player in the country".

Now the voters give it to the figurehead QB on the best team. And that's when you get phony Heisman recipients like Gino Toretta (over Marshall Faulk), Danny Wuerffel (over Orlando Pace), Jason White (over Larry Fitzgerald), Matt Leinart (over Adrian Peterson) and Troy Smith (over Darren McFadden).

Studs like Marshall Faulk or Adrian Peterson could shine on any Division 1-A team, even Sun Belt schools like Western Kentucky and Louisiana-Lafayette. If White played in the Sun Belt, nobody who even know who the **** he is. That's why the AP voting is horseshit. They can't separate true greatness from a guy who performs in a system.

So were the lineman selected to the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd team All-America list last year just figure heads that performed in a system?

And like I said many times, sophomore offensive linemen don't get honored as All-Americans. Look at the history. They are forced to wait their turn.

Yep. Kirk Barton was.

LMAO

The unsung figurhead.

Barton got the honor because he was a senior, a recognizable name on a highly publicized team. When he faced real competition, Barton got his butt kicked in the BCS Championship Game by LSU's Tyson Jackson.

Playboy All-America Team 2007

Jake Long, lineman, Michigan; Ryan Clady, lineman, Boise State; Barry Richardson, lineman, Clemson; Sam Baker, lineman, USC; Limas Sweed, receiver, Texas; Jere Myito, placekicker, Rutgers; Cody Wallace, center, Texas A&M; Mario Manningham, receiver, Michigan; Steve Slaton, running back, West Virginia; DeSean Jackson, kick returner, California; Ray Rice, running back, Rutgers; Brian Brohm, quarterback, Louisville; Darren McFadden, running back, Arkansas.