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louie aguiar 02-25-2025 08:51 AM

We already have a ton of money at LG, C and RT and we have a huge glaring need at LT. I’d be really surprised if they’re able to give Trey a big contract.

bigjosh 02-25-2025 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17978889)
The most concerning thing about this is IMO it backs us into a corner re: LT

Basically have to draft the player unless it's DJ Humphries and you can't have any assurances about a draft when you're slotted at 31.


Depends if we are giving a short term deal to a LT.

If we sign Trey for 4-5 years, that cap money is low now and will inflate in future years.

That would free up a LT contract for 2-3 years

Not to mention that patricks contract is oddly frontloaded so that the money can move around. He is due 60+ million each of the next three years against the cap, but that falls to 32m in 2028, 34m in 2029 then its in the 40m range after that. They have alot of stuff they could do to be rich in cap space this year if clark wants to write big old checks.


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Sassy Squatch 02-25-2025 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17978902)
CP worries way to much about money and the cap.

LMAO Aren't you the one constantly bloviating about the Mahomes contract and how it hamstrings the team?

Rainbarrel 02-25-2025 08:53 AM

The more Trey is offered, the less flack Veach gets if he goes

YontsRBake 02-25-2025 08:53 AM

I think they’re going to re-sign Trey and Hollywood and start Kingsley, to the protest of CP.

bigjosh 02-25-2025 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 17978907)
Depends if we are giving a short term deal to a LT.

If we sign Trey for 4-5 years, that cap money is low now and will inflate in future years.

That would free up a LT contract for 2-3 years

Not to mention that patricks contract is oddly frontloaded so that the money can move around. He is due 60+ million each of the next three years against the cap, but that falls to 32m in 2028, 34m in 2029 then its in the 40m range after that. They have alot of stuff they could do to be rich in cap space this year if clark wants to write big old checks.


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Im not advocating for signing trey with this post either, i think that money is best spent elsewhere. We have 4 young offensive linemen that need to step tf up and start earning their 2nd to 5th round salaries


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O.city 02-25-2025 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17978908)
LMAO Aren't you the one constantly bloviating about the Mahomes contract and how it hamstrings the team?

When he looks at the rush and plays shitty, yeah it does.

SAGA45 02-25-2025 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17978890)
This reads to me like the Chiefs are leaking for PR; so they can say they tried when he of course prices himself out.

That's the way I see it. There's no way Veach matches the market-resetting numbers that Trey Smith is sure to be offered.

IIRC, Smith spoke freely in an interview about free agency and interior OL being paid record-setting numbers. I wish I had a link but he seemed pretty cognizant of the business aspect of it all and what he could potentially earn.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-25-2025 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17978914)
When he looks at the rush and plays shitty, yeah it does.

Trey Smith 2024 was not a $20’M quality player especially at his position

So that fits squarely into your take here

alpha_omega 02-25-2025 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17978884)
FWIW I don’t like Dianna. ....

This x eleventybillion.

O.city 02-25-2025 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17978923)
Trey Smith 2024 was not a $20’M quality player especially at his position

So that fits squarely into your take here

I agree.

But all we've heard is the Chiefs can't keep getting Mahomes killed, so they're gonna spend on an OL. Seems like a good idea.

Iconic 02-25-2025 09:13 AM

completely fine with it assuming thuney is the odd man out. makes sense to pay the younger asset here and not the guy that will eventually decline into his mid 30s

RunKC 02-25-2025 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17978903)
Joe can't come back on a $27M hit, so something's gonna have to give there if we are signing two other starters on the OL

Again they are in a great place with the cap. They can absolutely afford a high priced FA if they want to. Most of us preferred paying a guy like Chase Young instead of Trey but this still applies.

If Trey is paid, it’s gonna be a 4 or 5 year deal that is backloaded and his cap hit will be small in the first year.

Thuney is in the final year of his deal. If they don’t touch it, he is completely off the books after 2025 with no dead money. That alone would shift $26 million we were paying to Trey in 2026-2028.

Jawaan is in his last year in 2025. We will cut him this time next year and save $20 million to only 1 year of dead cap of $7 million.

They can get rid of both Thuney and Jawaan’s huge deals by the time Trey really gets paid starting in 2026.

Sassy Squatch 02-25-2025 09:17 AM

The problem there is Trey Smith just isn't that good, at least relative to Thuney.

Sassy Squatch 02-25-2025 09:20 AM

If it's true, the reports that Kingsley is moving to G full time are absolute bullshit. Granted, they always seemed a bit stupid but this should put the nail in the coffin.


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