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Tribal Warfare 02-13-2025 05:54 PM

If only the OL didn't shit themselves it would've a drastically different story

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-13-2025 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17968080)
This is a ridiculous reactionary take.

You think that QB coach wasn’t feeling the same in the Bills game? The SB last year? The AFCCG against the Ravens last year? The SB 2yrs ago against the Eagles?

JFC. The desperation to find someone to blame is pure absurdity.

I dont really care when it happened, regardless of the results.

Why would a coach be afraid to coach a player? Because the player is a superstar? Because they're afraid the player might not like what you have to say and barks back? ****. That. You're the coach, they're the player. Your job is to be push players to be greater. You never do that by backing down or being intimidated by the player.

Also have you not seen me in other threads. I have given Mahomes PLENTY of blame pie. I'm not trying to deflect the blame away.

TwistedChief 02-13-2025 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17968099)
I dont really care when it happened, regardless of the results.

Why would a coach be afraid to coach a player? Because the player is a superstar? Because they're afraid the player might not like what you have to say and barks back? ****. That. You're the coach, they're the player. Your job is to be push players to be greater. You never do that by backing down or being intimidated by the player.

Also have you not seen me in other threads. I have given Mahomes PLENTY of blame pie. I'm not trying to deflect the blame away.

It's not understanding the bigger picture. If we had won this game, you wouldn't have given this a second thought. Instead you're hyperventilating about anything and everything that caused your difficult reaction to the loss. (I definitely saw that thread.)

He's just making the point that they understand how amazing this player is and how they don't want to waste his talent. If they had just won this SB, you would've read this and thought, "WOW, this team operates at the high level it does because they realize what a unicorn Mahomes is and need to maximize anything and everything!"

Instead, because they lost 1 game in the playoffs in 3 seasons, you decide to use this as a reason to fire a coach. It's absurdity. As if he and all the other coaches didn't feel this same way ahead of each and every game this team has won over the past few seasons.

Come on, guys. This is ridiculous.

comochiefsfan 02-13-2025 06:36 PM

Regardless if this is a real issue or not, it seems clear that the offensive staff needs an infusion of innovation and creativity.

Remember just a few years ago when our play design was the envy of the league? Everything is so vanilla and predictable now. Where in the world did amazing schemer Andy Reid go?

We have a room full of conservative pussies right now in guys like this dude and Nagy who don’t seem to be adding anything useful to the offense.

Andy needs to either rediscover his magic or jettison some of these coaches and try to find a Ben Johnson type to come in here and maximize Mahomes’ ability.

Because right now it is being wasted.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-13-2025 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17968110)
It's not understanding the bigger picture. If we had won this game, you wouldn't have given this a second thought. Instead you're hyperventilating about anything and everything that caused your difficult reaction to the loss. (I definitely saw that thread.)

He's just making the point that they understand how amazing this player is and how they don't want to waste his talent. If they had just won this SB, you would've read this and thought, "WOW, this team operates at the high level it does because they realize what a unicorn Mahomes is and need to maximize anything and everything!"

Instead, because they lost 1 game in the playoffs in 3 seasons, you decide to use this as a reason to fire a coach. It's absurdity. As if he and all the other coaches didn't feel this same way ahead of each and every game this team has won over the past few seasons.

Come on, guys. This is ridiculous.

I'm hyper ventilating?

Dude. I was hyper focused on the 3-peat and stopped caring for myself like I should have for a couple months. Like, not eating well, not sleeping well, not focused at work. Basic depression stuff, and it doesn't help that it's winter and we get ****ing zero sunlight.. I wasn't red in the face screaming at the TV. I was at a bar and watched in silence as we played a terrible game, then went home at halftime. If you think I'm being a prisoner of the moment, I'm sorry but you've got it all wrong.

Reading back on the thread, yeah he's probably not actually afraid of Mahomes, but is scared to lose it for him. Still kinda not what I want to hear, but far less of a red flag.

TwistedChief 02-13-2025 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17968137)

Reading back on the thread, yeah he's probably not actually afraid of Mahomes, but is scared to lose it for him. Still kinda not what I want to hear, but far less of a red flag.

All I think you and others need to do is come back to this. Thanks.

If you read that paragraph before any other game, you wouldn’t have thought anything of it. Let’s not spend time trying to find a reason why we were outplayed. It happens to most teams multiple teams a season. For us, it happens rarely.

That’s all the perspective I’m talking about.

Hugs.

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17968128)
Regardless if this is a real issue or not, it seems clear that the offensive staff needs an infusion of innovation and creativity.

Remember just a few years ago when our play design was the envy of the league? Everything is so vanilla and predictable now. Where in the world did amazing schemer Andy Reid go?

We have a room full of conservative pussies right now in guys like this dude and Nagy who don’t seem to be adding anything useful to the offense.

Andy needs to either rediscover his magic or jettison some of these coaches and try to find a Ben Johnson type to come in here and maximize Mahomes’ ability.

Because right now it is being wasted.

Andy is one of the greatest offensive play callers in NFL history and a tremendous head coach.

But I think age is catching up to him.

We no longer seem to have an edge on the offensive side. Most weeks the team we are playing knows our plays as well as we do.

There have been two great updates since Mahomes took over.

One was Mahomes first year where Andy got to merge the best of the West Coach Offense and the college spread with the verticals that had been missing with Alex at QB and terrified the NFL.

Then in 2021 teams basically said we won't let you do those, beat us 8-15 yards at a time.

In 2022 we came back and mastered that offense which was more modernized West Coast to attack shell.

Since that year we have been just kind of floundering on offense with no identity or things that we do that just work.

TwistedChief 02-13-2025 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17968146)
Andy is one of the greatest offensive play callers in NFL history and a tremendous head coach.

But I think age is catching up to him.

We no longer seem to have an edge on the offensive side. Most weeks the team we are playing knows our plays as well as we do.

There have been two great updates since Mahomes took over.

One was Mahomes first year where Andy got to merge the best of the West Coach Offense and the college spread with the verticals that had been missing with Alex at QB and terrified the NFL.

Then in 2021 teams basically said we won't let you do those, beat us 8-15 yards at a time.

In 2022 we came back and mastered that offense which was more modernized West Coast to attack shell.

Since that year we have been just kind of floundering on offense with no identity or things that we do that just work.

We just made our 3rd consecutive SB with a makeshift OL and last week against the Bills he put on a clinic?

What?

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17968153)
We just made our 3rd consecutive SB with a makeshift OL and last week against the Bills he put on a clinic?

What?



The Bills game was beautiful.


The problem is those games where we seem to have a scheme/playcalling advantage on offense are fewer and fewer every year.

FloridaMan88 02-13-2025 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17968159)
The Bills game was beautiful.


The problem is those games where we seem to have a scheme/playcalling advantage on offense are fewer and fewer every year.

And Buffalo was a mediocre defense… before they were missing key players to injury.

TwistedChief 02-13-2025 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17968159)
The Bills game was beautiful.


The problem is those games where we seem to have a scheme/playcalling advantage on offense are fewer and fewer every year.

And yet we’re the winningest team over the last several years and the envy of the league.

I’m sorry it takes you longer than most to see the big picture. I realize choosing Worthy over Mitchell still bothers you as you didn’t recognize a clear alpha WR when he was in our grasp until late in the season.

Maybe stop being a prisoner of the moment.

PAChiefsGuy 02-13-2025 07:02 PM

Dude thinks it's stressful going for a three-peat and having one of the GOAT QBs to try and do it?

What a joke. Get this guy off the ****ing team..

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17968164)
And Buffalo was a mediocre defense… before they were missing key players to injury.

Who knows, maybe Andy Reid had devised his masterpiece for the second half of the SB this year because he thought it would be a close game.


But with Mahomes going off the reservation, the OL getting bum rushed, the WR's and Kelce dropping everything, and the playcalling asking for longer developing routes when the OL could not hold for 2 seconds, game ended before we could see it.

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17968165)
And yet we’re the winningest team over the last several years and the envy of the league.

I’m sorry it takes you longer than most to see the big picture. I realize choosing Worthy over Mitchell still bothers you as you didn’t recognize a clear alpha WR when he was in our grasp until late in the season.

Maybe stop being a prisoner of the moment.

Not at all.


Nice attempt to change the subject again because, as usual, you have nothing interesting or insightful to say.


;)

FloridaMan88 02-13-2025 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17968165)
And yet we’re the winningest team over the last several years and the envy of the league.

The past was great (although you have to go to back to 2022 to when the offense was actually “great”)… so don’t evolve/adapt for the future.

Talk about being a “prisoner of the moment”.


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