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TEX 02-10-2025 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17962070)
The offensive line got out played.. That’s the reason we lost… Brett and Patrick will be fine.. Sometimes you lose SBs… JFC , we made 3 in a row..

Yep. Its pretty simple. They had a total fail at on every level at LT this year and had to play with duct tape and in the process mess up two positions. It finally got them.

HonestChieffan 02-10-2025 11:10 AM

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nicksdad 02-10-2025 11:18 AM

On the positive side Pat has two rings without a top ten defense. Brady has zero. On the negative side if you take off the Homer goggles there is a reasonable argument that they had the lesser roster top to bottom in most of these five super bowls. It is tough to win like that and veach better have a couple of Philly drafts and off seasons in the next few years or pat might be heading for a dry spell like Brady did for ten years, most Gms seem to have positions that they evaluate best and acquire studs. Belichick even when he was drafting well couldn’t pick a decent WR. Veach seems to struggle with tackles

Archie Bunker 02-10-2025 12:12 PM

The only good for me, garbage time or not, the old **** it someone’s down there Mahomes is still buried deep inside to be unleashed again. Worthy-Mahomes in year 2 is going to be special.

Dunerdr 02-10-2025 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 17962710)
The only good for me, garbage time or not, the old **** it someone’s down there Mahomes is still buried deep inside to be unleashed again. Worthy-Mahomes in year 2 is going to be special.

There's a lot more that the Oline factor but pat sure got more done with two great tackles than he has with an elite interior as a passer.

displacedinMN 02-10-2025 01:04 PM

As I am processing this, here are my thoughts


I get wanting to get the ball out fast, and not running a lot-especially with the D we saw-but the Chiefs o line did nothing.
Not sure if running the ball would have helped. I was very surprised that they started with 3 straight passes.

Our D had no support from the O. They were tired and as good as they are, you get tired. Can you say Iowa?

Too many drops. We make a few first downs in the first quarter, life may be a little different and a little more confident.

I just could not bring myself to watch the second half. I knew there would be some improvement. But at that point, knew it would not be a HOU playoff game improvement. I hoped.


**** the Eagles and especially their fans.

Mosbonian 02-10-2025 01:09 PM

Sorry....while a lot of what you assess is very true I think you are off base on saying it's time for Brett Veach to go.

Yes he has had misses on choices for our O Line but finding a good left tackle either in Free Agency or in the draft is very difficult to begin with, much less where we pick in the draft.

King_Chief_Fan 02-10-2025 01:23 PM

Good: Worthy, Wharton, Tranquil
Bad: Game plan and execution
Ugly: O line, Mahomes, Kelce

smithandrew051 02-10-2025 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17962745)
There's a lot more that the Oline factor but pat sure got more done with two great tackles than he has with an elite interior as a passer.

I wouldn’t even say great tackles.

Schwartz was the only great tackle that Mahomes has had.

Let’s not forget how bad Fisher got his ass whooped at times. Bosa wrecked him in the Super Bowl. Hendrickson destroyed him in that Saints game. Just to name a few.

Mahomes trusted him though and just played.

Would be great to have 2 great tackles, but we really need 1 good-great tackle and 1 serviceable tackle.

Dunerdr 02-10-2025 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17962830)
I wouldn’t even say great tackles.

Schwartz was the only great tackle that Mahomes has had.

Let’s not forget how bad Fisher got his ass whooped at times. Bosa wrecked him in the Super Bowl. Hendrickson destroyed him in that Saints game. Just to name a few.

Mahomes trusted him though and just played.

Would be great to have 2 great tackles, but we really need 1 good-great tackle and 1 serviceable tackle.

I'd put Fisher at a c- on a bad day and a b on a good. Mitch was like a steady B+. We've had peak C+ on good days since.


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