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Couch-Potato 12-30-2024 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbiggz (Post 17883952)
The reality is historically if you don't get a top three tackle in the draft then its probable that they aren't ready on day one of their rookie season

With that being said trade up to 15 - 20 and get one assuming veatch and company identify one that's worth moving up for. If we have to go up higher than that then its probably going to be two number one picks which I am against.

We could send that extra 3rd in a trade for #20 or #21, I’m actually surprised it would get us that high. Not the worst idea, is there an OT worth moving up that high for in this draft?

Dunerdr 12-31-2024 09:43 AM

I just don't see us taking a R1 tackle unless a serious fall happens for reasons outside football or something. They were ready to pencil Kingsley in day 1. There's something there that they like a lot. I think the move is probably bringing Humphries back on a reasonable one year and letting Kingsley develop in the off-season and fight for the job.

Couch-Potato 01-05-2025 08:32 AM

Which of these guys that might be available at the bottom of the 1st would be worth taking in your opinion, if any?

Wyatt Milum
Cameron Williams
Aireontae Ersery
Josh Simmons
Jonah Savaiinaea
Josh Conley Jr
Grey Zabel

Simmons and Conley Jr seem to be CPs preference currently, who else do you like? Jonah has position flexibility and Zabel scored a 100% pass block rating on DraftBuzz, that site is also high on Milum who I’ve seen mocked all over the place. Ersery is from KC! Williams doesn’t seem athletic enough for Andy’s preference.

kccrow 01-05-2025 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17891344)
Which of these guys that might be available at the bottom of the 1st would be worth taking in your opinion, if any?

Wyatt Milum
Cameron Williams
Aireontae Ersery
Josh Simmons
Jonah Savaiinaea
Josh Conley Jr
Grey Zabel

Simmons and Conley Jr seem to be CPs preference currently, who else do you like? Jonah has position flexibility and Zabel scored a 100% pass block rating on DraftBuzz, that site is also high on Milum who I’ve seen mocked all over the place. Ersery is from KC! Williams doesn’t seem athletic enough for Andy’s preference.

Wyatt Milum - Yes, but likely top 25
Cameron Williams - Yes if you want a RT
Aireontae Ersery - Not for KC, too slow. Might be a guy BAL pegs to replace Stanley
Josh Simmons - Maybe but he's probably going to struggle his rookie year trying to come back from injury.
Jonah Savaiinaea - He's either a RT or moves inside to OG
Josh Conley Jr - Yes, but likely top 25
Grey Zabel - Not in Round 1. He will need a year to bulk up and adjust to the competition. Might end up at OG if he struggles to adjust. Love the athleticism though

Couch-Potato 01-05-2025 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17891869)
Wyatt Milum - Yes, but likely top 25
Cameron Williams - Yes if you want a RT
Aireontae Ersery - Not for KC, too slow. Might be a guy BAL pegs to replace Stanley
Josh Simmons - Maybe but he's probably going to struggle his rookie year trying to come back from injury.
Jonah Savaiinaea - He's either a RT or moves inside to OG
Josh Conley Jr - Yes, but likely top 25
Grey Zabel - Not in Round 1. He will need a year to bulk up and adjust to the competition. Might end up at OG if he struggles to adjust. Love the athleticism though

Great feedback! Pretty much what I expected, curious what others think about the above and if there are any opinions on the 2nd-3rd tier of OTs in this draft?

Marcus Membou
Armand Mbow
Donavan Jackson
Jack Nelson
Logan Brown
Ajani Cornelius
Blake Miller
Trey Zuhn
Charles Grant

Through some initial research I’m high on Nelson as a jack of all trades type, Brown and Grant have great athleticism to develop, Jackson and Zuhn to move to OG, and Cornelius has great potential at RT.

Any others you guys think we should keep an eye on?

Palangi 01-05-2025 06:36 PM

I like Ozzie Trapilo in the third round. Has experience at LT and RT. 3 year starter

Couch-Potato 01-05-2025 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 17893858)
I like Ozzie Trapilo in the third round. Has experience at LT and RT. 3 year starter

Absolutely, forgot about him…

"A mountain of a man (6-8, 310) with prototype NFL tackle size, Trapilo boasts the frame and length that offensive line coaches covet. His ability to stone-wall pass rushers and keep the pocket clean will have teams salivating, particularly those employing vertical passing attacks. The former Eagle has shown he can be a true bookend tackle, capable of handling both edge and inside moves. Trapilo's pass protection skills were on full display in 2023, as he didn't allow a single sack in 363 dropback snaps. His contributions were vital to Boston College's ground attack, which averaged 198.8 rushing yards per game, ranking 13th nationally and second in the ACC.
  • Mammoth frame with plus length, creating a wide blocking radius and giving edge rushers fits
  • Stone wall in pass pro, showcasing advanced kick-slide technique and mirror ability
  • Heavy hands paired with vise-grip strength, locking onto defenders and controlling the point of attack
  • Positional versatility, having lined up at both tackle spots in college
  • Impressive anchor, able to absorb bull rushes and maintain pocket integrity
  • Processes stunts and blitzes quickly, rarely caught out of position
  • Nasty finisher who looks to bury defenders and play through the whistleIron man durability, consistently logging full game snap counts"

-DraftBuzz

Couch-Potato 01-06-2025 09:13 AM

Titans ending the season with the top pick does wonders for our Sneed comp!

If we win the SB we’ll have back to back picks at the bottom of the 2nd and top of the 3rd.

This makes a trade up in the 1st for a quality LT more plausible in my opinion.

By the trade chart, we could get up to approximately pick 20 by trading one of those picks.

We’ll see if there’s a player worth making that move.

Chris Meck 01-06-2025 11:58 AM

I'm feeling like our slotting means we're looking at a project OT no matter what. So unless we're drafting the best OG in the draft, we're probably looking defense in the first and possibly second rounds. There are some stud DT/NT types that may fall to us, and it would be good to be able to not need to play Nnadi.

If you're going to draft project OT's, you need to give them more than one season to show out.

Mecca 01-06-2025 01:13 PM

I like Josh Simmons but he isn't gonna last that long, he was a top 10 pick before injury, someone is gonna pull that trigger.

kccrow 01-06-2025 07:28 PM

Milum was named a consensus 1st Team All-American. He gets knocked for short arms, lower body stiffness/lack of knee bend, and "middling lateral quickness." I don't know, the dude just wins every pass set, was an All-American Honorable Mention as a Junior, 1st Team AA as a Senior, and has multiple All-Academic honors. I find it hard to believe this guy won't solid but I see a lot of "he needs to move inside to OG" and "he's a 2nd round player." I think he's a much stronger and more refined version of Raimann coming out. Am I off base?

Couch-Potato 01-06-2025 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17895596)
I'm feeling like our slotting means we're looking at a project OT no matter what. So unless we're drafting the best OG in the draft, we're probably looking defense in the first and possibly second rounds. There are some stud DT/NT types that may fall to us, and it would be good to be able to not need to play Nnadi.

If you're going to draft project OT's, you need to give them more than one season to show out.

I agree that there are some DL in the first couple rounds that have the potential to really open things up for CJ and our edge rushers.

Couch-Potato 01-10-2025 10:03 PM

Whelp, we can take Cameron Williams off the list.

Dunerdr 01-10-2025 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17901490)
Whelp, we can take Cameron Williams off the list.

What did I miss?

Couch-Potato 01-11-2025 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17901554)
What did I miss?

Wasn’t that him at RT tonight giving up the pressure to Jack Sawyer on the final play of the game leading to an 83 yard fumble recovery TD?


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