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Dante84 11-14-2024 12:47 AM
Would hate to have to replace Thuney, Smith & Morris in the same offseason… leaving Creed and Taylor.

Especially when Mahomes’ confidence is seemingly tied to the amount of pressure he gets.

Direckshun 11-14-2024 09:48 AM
Willie Gay is a free agent this year, right?

Maybe they move Tranquill to Mike and bring Gay back at Will.

RunKC 11-14-2024 10:37 AM
Oh yeah I would totally do that. Not sure Spags will let it happen though unfortunately

Couch-Potato 11-14-2024 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17804062)
Hmmm

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m feeling like making a spreadsheet to explain this, so here it is.<br><br>This shows that they would not pay all of those salaries at once if they kept Trey. <br><br>The uplift on spending on the Oline would only go up ~$5m if they kept Trey. Most of the Chiefs contracts work this way. <a href="https://t.co/GTxUukJ2Gm">https://t.co/GTxUukJ2Gm</a> <a href="https://t.co/MegbKUbSXA">pic.twitter.com/MegbKUbSXA</a></p>&mdash; Conner Christopherson (@Conner_DKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/Conner_DKC/status/1856882058062434717?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Yes, please. Work your magic Veach!!!

Couch-Potato 11-14-2024 12:22 PM
ESPN had WR Higgins over Trey Smith as the #1 FA… I just don’t see it, Higgins isn’t that special, his numbers aren’t that great IMO. Trey Smith is the #1 NFL FA this year.

Chargem 11-15-2024 05:01 AM
how bad is the Franchise Tag on a guard?

Direckshun 11-15-2024 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 17805483)
how bad is the Franchise Tag on a guard?
It's basically tackle-grade.

I think you have to spend resources to trade up and get a LT in the 1st round.

Move Morris to RG. Kingsley is your swing.

Pay Bolton, bring back cheaper impact players like Omenihu (who I think will be manageably cheap) and Brown. Drop a resource or three for a RB, and keep that secondary bodied out.

That should keep the team Super Bowl competitive.

RunKC 11-15-2024 10:48 AM
Wow. Verderame said Veach made a huge push to sign Trey Smith in the Summer. Really tried to get that done but couldn’t.

Also said they tried talking to Bolton and he didn’t want to talk about an extension. Wtf LMAO

pugsnotdrugs19 11-15-2024 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17805707)
Wow. Verderame said Veach made a huge push to sign Trey Smith in the Summer. Really tried to get that done but couldn’t.

Also said they tried talking to Bolton and he didn’t want to talk about an extension. Wtf LMAO
I bet he tried to give Trey and Creed twin deals.

Probably tried to get Bolton on a discount after injury-riddled 2023 season. Probably gonna turn into another OBJ situation.

I hope we can keep some of em but at the same time I really DGAF. The money would be nice to have too cause I am sure there are numerous FAs who would love to come play for the Chiefs. Or, we can focus on retaining the 2022 draft class.

Either way, we are gonna be acquiring some more nice young cheap pieces next draft that we need.

Woogieman 11-15-2024 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Palangi (Post 17803495)
Personally I think Kingsley should be the replacement for Smith. Kingsley is very athletic running forward out going lateral. But he really struggles going backwards/kick stepping. As a guard he wouldn’t have to worry about this as much. At 6’5” 326 he brings quality size and strength to the guard spot too. Very similar to Smith but more athletic.

We would definitely need to bring in a tackle next year whether it’s the draft or free agency. But Morris coming back gives us an option and swing tackle at worst. Ethan Driskell is a guy the coaches are very high on and talked about needing to add weight and strength. Maybe he is an option next year?
I was wondering if he could make that transition...I have no idea and you hate to have drafted an OG in the 1st, but it beats drafting a swing tackle in the first.

JPH83 11-15-2024 03:14 PM
I'm pretty happy moving on from Bolton. When he's on form he's a great run stuffer but he'll never be an elite coverage LB. I'd love to keep Smith, I think he's worth the money, just not to us. It'll be too much.

That said, one of these drafts is going to be a bad one. Or a below average one. It happens. It's entirely possible it's this last one and we're back in for WR and LT as well as looking to replace these guys and others. We're going to either need another stellar draft like the 2022 class, or get some real bargains in FA.

And I wouldn't bring Omenihu back, especially if he asks for more.

Stryker 11-15-2024 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17803132)
I've largely been at "Let them both walk..." and haven't really seen much to change my mind in that regard.

The IOL hasn't been as stout in pass pro as I'd like all year. And ultimately you can't just continue to bring back more expensive versions of the same team.

If that means not having the highest paid IOL in football and a MLB who has some limitations (though honestly, I think the league is coming TOWARDS his play style, not away from it), so be it.

If that money is reallocated to pass catchers and/or OT, then that's the way it ought be done.
Completely agree with this.

Stryker 11-15-2024 08:01 PM
Ok, bottom line, did we not see this coming? We can't keep them all and the future is upon us. It is what it is. In Veach I trust and this organization will figure it out but we have to be realistic here and understand that change is inevitable. I think in the long run we will be ok - WE are Chiefs Kingdom and will prevail! :thumb:

Kelce
Chris Jones
Thuney
D. Hop
Hunt
JuJu

Am I missing anyone? Change will have to happen and this organization is setup to do just that.

RunKC 11-16-2024 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17803132)
I've largely been at "Let them both walk..." and haven't really seen much to change my mind in that regard.

The IOL hasn't been as stout in pass pro as I'd like all year. And ultimately you can't just continue to bring back more expensive versions of the same team.

If that means not having the highest paid IOL in football and a MLB who has some limitations (though honestly, I think the league is coming TOWARDS his play style, not away from it), so be it.

If that money is reallocated to pass catchers and/or OT, then that's the way it ought be done.
Coming around to this but I would think that using that money on a good pass rusher is needed along with OT and pass catchers

Sassy Squatch 11-16-2024 12:29 PM
That's a pretty massive backfire by Bolton if true, because he's been exposed a bit in the absence of Gay.


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