Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17096343)

Well 4th, but your point is taken.

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17096352)

I think especially later, Reid was trying to **** with Detroit. Their coaching staff is all young and comparatively inexperienced. Some of it was certainly exploitative of Xs and Os, some of it was stressing their communication and decision making systems, which is smart.

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17096171)

Don't hate on me here, I'm just theorizing. Instead of doing what some of you always do and call me an idiot, dispute the point I'm making, please.

One thing that was absolutely nuts, watching this game, was something I'm not sure I've ever seen before, on both sides of the ball.

The Chiefs, on a down-to-down basis, completely changed up their DL and their weapons on offense. Again, on nearly a down-to-down basis.

They'd have Karlaftis-Nnadi-Dickerson-Herring on one down (which, oh my god) and then the next down they'd have Danna and Wharton subbing in, before bringing in FAU and sometimes even Chenal at DE as a rushbacker.

On offense, there was all kinds of bizarre weapons packages. One down they go three TEs with Justyn Ross off to the side. They have MVS/Toney/Moore on a down only to yank 2/3 of them off so Watson/Rice can come in.

I'm just kind of used to a team that plays a true 1st string and a true 2nd string when the 1st stringers need a blow. Instead, it was a personnel free-for-all.

I get it, the Chiefs are down a few guys. So, logically, you put in your best remaining players and occasionally spell then, rather than just keep a lazy susan of your entire depth chart going. I haven't been able to find the snapcounts, but if Matt Dickerson lead our DTs in snaps, I wouldn't be surprised. There's no way he's our best, or even second best DT.

The defense played well, and the offense had enough in them to win the game yesterday. They just couldn't hold onto the ball.

But it did have a feeling of throwing-shit-against-the-wall in the gameplanning.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17096358)

I didn't really have a problem with Reid's gameplan outside the absolute failure of the Blake Bell formation.

He got guys open.

We appear to have a lot of explosion back in the offense that was missing last year. They just need to catch the ball.

The running game is going to need some work, and I wonder if we miss EB there.

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17096323)

Toney = coming off an injury
Pacheco = coming off an injury
Kelce = out
Rice = rookie
Skyy = second year player and wasn’t a major factor in the offense last year
CEH = got more touches than he should, likely due to Pacheco coming off an injury
Gray = has never really needed to be our TE1

That explains a lot of discombobulation on offense.

The OL was great in pass pro. I won’t judge the run game when CEH has that many carries.

A lot to feel good about, because drops lost us the game. Simple as. That can be corrected.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17096340)

It felt like a fifth preseason game for the offense.

Originally Posted by DenverChief (Post 17096389)

And Rice seemed like the best WR last night - super strange.

Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17096403)

Even he had a couple drops I believe.

Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 17096431)

That game to me was about body language. No fire on the offense at all. Every time they showed Andy, he just had a dead look in his eyes. I dunno, it just didn't FEEL like a Chiefs regular season game.

Mahomes was visibly frustrated all night. When he had to make plays with his feet, I get the feeling he was seeing guys not getting open and was like "Goddamit, I guess I'll have to do this shit myself."

He actually had a great night, he was off a couple of times, but I think that owes to the fact that he didn't trust any of those ****ers to get the job done.

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17092212)

Kc is not rotating their d line at all.

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17092229)

I don’t think felix has played a single snap

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17094095)

We’re not rotating on d line at all.