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kccrow 04-16-2018 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13518898)
I really have no idea which QB's the Broncos prefer, but I'd be surprised if they passed on Rosen if he's sitting there at #5.


McGovern would probably get first crack at RG if they don't draft anybody. I didn't think he played very well at the end of last year though.

The Broncos say they want to keep Leary at LG, but he played well at RG last year. I'm personally not a huge fan of taking a guard at 5.


Elway loves pass rushers and corners. Shaq Barrett will be a UFA next year, Ray is about to get slapped with a 5th-year option, and Von is almost 30. I could definitely see them drafting Chubb at 5.



The Jets gave up #6 and three 2nd round picks to move from 6 to 3. The Bills, Dolphins, and Cardinals could all be looking to trade up for the last of the top 4 QB's. I think Denver could get three #1's out of Buffalo, I know Peter King mentioned that could be the price for Buffalo to trade with the Giants and Browns...



https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/16/nf...mqb-peter-king

Thanks for the tidbits, appreciated.

On the compensation, you can't compare getting to 2 and 3 to getting to 5. The top three picks are far more valuable than those following. Multiple 1sts is a pipe dream. You'd be lucky to get a 1st at all.

Going from 12 to 2 on the value chart with Buffalo's current selections at 12 and 22 totals 1980 of the required 2600 points. You need AT least a future 1st to get the rest of the way. 2/3 of their pick this year (22) is going to be the adjusted value of their 2019 1st, or 520 points. They are still only at 2500 points. They'd have to probably throw another pick in the 3rd or 4th round at the Giants to make it "equal."

On the flip side, 12 and 22 already exceed the 1700 points the Broncos pick is worth by a full late 2nd to early 3rd rounder. You'd probably get 12, 56, and 65 from Buffalo, that's 1805 points. Essentially you're gaining a 2nd and 3rd to move down 7 spots. If you're lucky, and I"d have to say damn lucky, you'd get 53 and 56 instead of 65, which would put you at around 1910 points.

BryanBusby 04-16-2018 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13519647)
I listed 7 and no, it isn't a stretch. 6 went in the top 33 last year, with 3 more going before pick 54 (43, 46, and 53). 6 went by pick 38 in 2016, with the 7th going at pick 54. 7 went in the top 50 in 2015. The likelihood of one of the top 7 CBs dropping to 54 is unlikely as defenses continue to shift more and more to sub-packages and defending the pass first.

Well we don't have a 2nd round of picks to look at to pick apart this post.

If the Chiefs need to move up for a Corner, I don't think they need to move that far up. 10 spots up should land them a quality corner prospect IMO.

Chiefs could package 2+later 3rd+6 to the Redskins for 2+4.

Quesadilla Joe 04-16-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13519665)

On the flip side, 12 and 22 already exceed the 1700 points the Broncos pick is worth by a full late 2nd to early 3rd rounder. You'd probably get 12, 56, and 65 from Buffalo, that's 1805 points. Essentially you're gaining a 2nd and 3rd to move down 7 spots. If you're lucky, and I"d have to say damn lucky, you'd get 53 and 56 instead of 65, which would put you at around 1910 points.

Teams generally have to give up extra when they trade up for a QB. The Jets overpaid by a good 600+ points on the draft chart to go from 6 to 3.

If three teams are competing for the last of the top four QB's it's going to get pricey. Probably too pricey to be worth it, IMO.


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